Originally Posted by Reba

I don't think anyone believes the fence by itself is enough security. It's a start towards better security. More security manpower and equipment is also needed. Current border security laws need to be enforced. Border patrolmen need to get more support from their bosses.

Originally Posted by Beowulf

Let's face it: the wall will never be built.

Originally Posted by DURAY

Why are left-wing liberal Democrats for illegal immigration??? the Hispanic vote or what? Have they been to a hospital and see who paid the unpaid bills???

from http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...ration_law.pdf or Center For Security Policy
Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home
the first rule in Mexico a foreigner must speak and write Spanish.
The law also ensures that:
• immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
• foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
• foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
• foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
• foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
• those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.

Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that
foreign visitors and immigrants are:
• in the country legally;
• have the means to sustain themselves economically;
• not destined to be burdens on society;
• of economic and social benefit to society;
• of good character and have no criminal records; and
• contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

Originally Posted by Daredevel7

Hey, I am all for this! If people want to donate for this, go ahead by all means! Personally, I think the fence won't work.

My prediction:
1) Fence will be built a little more. It does jack squat. People will complain that it is not complete. State asks for more $$.
2) Fence is 80% completed. It does jack squat. People will complain that it is not 100% completed. State asks for more $$.
3) Fence is 100% completed. It does jack squat. People will complain that it's not patrolled enough. State asks for more $$.
4) More people work at the fence. It does jack squat. People will blame other states for not putting up fences on their borders.

Of course, this is all assuming that people will continuously put up $$.

Originally Posted by Barbaro

I read that article last night. Instituto Nacional de Migracion is a big joke. INM has been attempting to clean up its own image by doing background aggressively on thousand agents now. Many corrupt agents are caught and face very serious charges.

Just 8 days ago, 183 migrants were caught in Puebla in Mexico. It sits between Mexico City and Veracruz- a famous port. They are from all over world- Sri Lanka, India, Nepal, Egypt, Tibet, Central American countries, and South American country.

Originally Posted by Barbaro

I read that article last night. Instituto Nacional de Migracion is a big joke. INM has been attempting to clean up its own image by doing background aggressively on thousand agents now. Many corrupt agents are caught and face very serious charges.

Just 8 days ago, 183 migrants were caught in Puebla in Mexico. It sits between Mexico City and Veracruz- a famous port. They are from all over world- Sri Lanka, India, Nepal, Egypt, Tibet, Central American countries, and South American country.

Originally Posted by jillio

Why do right wing conservative Republicans have such difficulty reading and understanding?

Originally Posted by DURAY

Why do hearing people have no difficulty speaking when ordering foods in solidarity????

Originally Posted by DURAY

Why do hearing people have no difficulty speaking when ordering foods in solidarity????

Originally Posted by duray

why do hearing people have no difficulty speaking when ordering foods in solidarity????

Originally Posted by DURAY

Why do hearing people have no difficulty speaking when ordering foods in solidarity????

Originally Posted by DURAY

Why do hearing people have no difficulty speaking when ordering foods in solidarity????

Originally Posted by Beowulf

Solidarity helps when some mouths are full.

Originally Posted by Reba

Done. I made my donation.

Originally Posted by shel90

My mom feels that a fence wouldnt solve the problem. Her solution to the problem is that Mexicans who get educated here in America should use that education to help Mexico become a better country. She understands why people want to get out of Mexico but once they get educated, why not rally together and go back to Mexico and improve it? Interesting point of view.

Originally Posted by shel90

My mom feels that a fence wouldnt solve the problem. Her solution to the problem is that Mexicans who get educated here in America should use that education to help Mexico become a better country. She understands why people want to get out of Mexico but once they get educated, why not rally together and go back to Mexico and improve it? Interesting point of view.

Originally Posted by kokonut

It's not supposed to solve the problem but rather one of the many ways to help stem the illegal entries. Leaving the fence so porous is not a good idea. If they entered America illegally, they should be deported on the spot. There are proper procedures and filings to do before being granted entry into the U.S.

Originally Posted by deafskeptic

That's a thought.

Originally Posted by shel90

I understand..however, while in AZ, I was told stories of Mexican families being torn apart by this law. Like the children would get separated from their parents because the wife or the husband was illegal and got deported while the other was a legal US ciitizen. My dad, stepmom, and my brother's girlfriend got into a heated debate about this and it made my daughter uncomfortable because she is a Mexican. I got the different vibe in AZ than I did here in MD. Until one is really in the midist of the whole thing, we all dont really have a full undertanding of the implications of this law.

Originally Posted by shel90

My mom feels that a fence wouldnt solve the problem. Her solution to the problem is that Mexicans who get educated here in America should use that education to help Mexico become a better country. She understands why people want to get out of Mexico but once they get educated, why not rally together and go back to Mexico and improve it? Interesting point of view.

Originally Posted by kokonut

Sad as it may be, they knew very well the consequences of living illegally in a country if they get caught. That's the very minimum they ought to have already understood. They accepted that risk entering the U.S. illegally.

Originally Posted by deafskeptic

That might be a tall order considering that many Mexicans only have a fifth grade or even lower education. Perhaps their children can take up the slack.

Originally Posted by kokonut

It's not supposed to solve the problem but rather one of the many ways to help stem the illegal entries. Leaving the fence so porous is not a good idea. If they entered America illegally, they should be deported on the spot. There are proper procedures and filings to do before being granted entry into the U.S.

Originally Posted by kokonut

Sad as it may be, they knew very well the consequences of living illegally in a country if they get caught. That's the very minimum they ought to have already understood. They accepted that risk entering the U.S. illegally.

Originally Posted by shel90

Ok..if America was corrupted by drug cartals and you were constantly threatened, would you want to find a way to get out or stay?

I honestly dont think I could stay.

I am saying that no, people shouldnt come here illegally but at the same time..damn, i wish Mexico was a better country for these people. Oh well.

Originally Posted by shel90

My ex-hubby and his 5 siblings all have college degrees. One is a lawyer. They all except for one were born in Mexico so yea, why dont they go and help Mexico? My mom really made me think in a diffeernt way.