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Unread 11-04-2010, 01:38 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Unread 11-04-2010, 02:56 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Hahaha I wouldn't even want to go with you.

I'd rather eat at Jason's Deli, Mama Fu's, PF Chang's, Pei Wei, Katz, TGIF, Japanese sushi bars, outback, texas land and cattle, Souper Salad (cheap!) and places like that.
Oh yes, Chiptole is good, not bad! It's quite good for a fast food restaurant. I hope to see more fast food restaurants like that.

So, shoo away. Have fun with Ronald! And be nice to kids at the playground - don't steal their toys.
You mean Chipotle???? The one owned by McDonald's Ok not for the last few years but still.
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Of course not, you morally deprived man.
Say it with me.....

P-e-r-s-o-n-a-l R-e-s-p-o-n-s-i-b-i-l-i-t-y

P-a-r-e-n-t-a-l R-e-s-p-o-n-s-i-b-i-l-i-t-y

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P-a-r-e-n-t-a-l R-e-s-p-o-n-s-i-b-i-l-i-t-y

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Yep. What we don't need is a soup Nazi and state nanny all rolled into one.
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Oh no. I should have kept all Happy Meal toys, because they may be valuable in 5-10 years later from now.
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Unread 11-04-2010, 07:57 AM   #36 (permalink)
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So, you don't have a problem with rewarding toys to children who are getting fat with junk food? Yes or no?
Do we need an act of Congress to tell parents to keep their kids active and eat salads?
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Unread 11-04-2010, 08:19 AM   #37 (permalink)
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why banned meal??? I am not sure exactly you said politic banned?
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As far as I remember, I only got two or three Happy Meal toys in my entire childhood. My parents were strict, and rarely bought worthless happy meal toys for me and my siblings, 'cause we did not play with them often. Oh and, I did go to Ray A. Kroc Middle School moons ago. No, it doesn't have a Ronald McDonald mascot.

I definitely think the ban is way over the top. I don't think it will protect children. It'll probably slow them down. Some people will probably make long commutes to buy Happy Meals toys outside of SF for their kids if they can't afford to buy made-in-china toys at stores or collecting toys or whatever.

I was reading comments from outside forum regarding Happy Meal Toys. One of the comments states that "a black market will develop for these items and people will need to buy them on the street corner from a dealer for exorbitant sums of cash. Gangs and cartels will fight over the smuggling routes and sales territories, triggering violent gun battles."

Yeah, that is far-fetched.
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See we agree.....well except that a 2am Big Mac after a night of drinking can be pretty tasty.
Yes, I recall those days. Now that they microwave all their sandwich food, I rarely visit. I have my annual Big Mac attack near my birthday. Otherwise, I can count on one hand the times I have gone there for food in the last 3 years. To each their own.

I simply cannot see getting government involved in something like this. Don't they have enough to do already? Will this become part of a candidate's platform? "I fully support keeping Happy Meals in the Bay Area! I will fight for your rights to get your Star Wars toys!"
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Hahaha I wouldn't even want to go with you.

I'd rather eat at Jason's Deli, Mama Fu's, PF Chang's, Pei Wei, Katz, TGIF, Japanese sushi bars, outback, texas land and cattle, Souper Salad (cheap!) and places like that.
Oh yes, Chiptole is good, not bad! It's quite good for a fast food restaurant. I hope to see more fast food restaurants like that.

So, shoo away. Have fun with Ronald! And be nice to kids at the playground - don't steal their toys.
We do not have those restaurants here. Must be nice to live in big city to have many select.
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As far as I remember, I only got two or three Happy Meal toys in my entire childhood. My parents were strict, and rarely bought worthless happy meal toys for me and my siblings, 'cause we did not play with them often. Oh and, I did go to Ray A. Kroc Middle School moons ago. No, it doesn't have a Ronald McDonald mascot.

I definitely think the ban is way over the top. I don't think it will protect children. It'll probably slow them down. Some people will probably make long commutes to buy Happy Meals toys outside of SF for their kids if they can't afford to buy made-in-china toys at stores or collecting toys or whatever.

I was reading comments from outside forum regarding Happy Meal Toys. One of the comments states that "a black market will develop for these items and people will need to buy them on the street corner from a dealer for exorbitant sums of cash. Gangs and cartels will fight over the smuggling routes and sales territories, triggering violent gun battles."

Yeah, that is far-fetched.
That black market comment in that forum was a tongue in cheek response. Note the hyperboles.
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Do we need an act of Congress to tell parents to keep their kids active and eat salads?
Which would be hypocritical of them if you look at how overweight they are and what they eat.
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Which would be hypocritical of them if you look at how overweight they are and what they eat.
I think so might hypocritical of them that is why!
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That black market comment in that forum was a tongue in cheek response. Note the hyperboles.
Yeah, I knew it was a figure of speech. He also said that if certain elements on the far left get their way, that could be reality one day. He is a libertarian.

Anyway....
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Yeah, I knew it was a figure of speech. He also said that if certain elements on the far left get their way, that could be reality one day. He is a libertarian.

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Point taken. I can see it now on a dark, seedy poorly lit corner street:

X: "Pssst! Hey, buddy. C'mere. I have something for you."

Opens up his long overcoat showing Happy Meal toys lining the inside jacket.

X: "Ya want one? I can make a good deal."

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that's not right. A lot of kids get awarded with Happy Meal for good behaviors and such. Why the toy?
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Armchair politicians are probably giddy over this. It's pretty much a pointless ban in my opinion. The drive to overindulge, spoil and/or overfeed their children is still there.

What happened during the great prohibition period?
We're going to have an Al Capone version of hamburglar spreading these happy meals in other forms. Expect a hamburglar soon at a fast food station near you.

Plus, not to mention it is an opportunity for other conglomerates to catch up. McDonald's is out of the playing ball park for now, but the others can step up their game and take advantage of it. More sales for happy meals at BK, Wendy's, Carl's/Hardee's, Jack in the Box, what else have you's.
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Armchair politicians are probably giddy over this. It's pretty much a pointless ban in my opinion. The drive to overindulge, spoil and/or overfeed their children is still there.

What happened during the great prohibition period?
We're going to have an Al Capone version of hamburglar spreading these happy meals in other forms. Expect a hamburglar soon at a fast food station near you.

Plus, not to mention it is an opportunity for other conglomerates to catch up. McDonald's is out of the playing ball park for now, but the others can step up their game and take advantage of it. More sales for happy meals at BK, Wendy's, Carl's/Hardee's, Jack in the Box, what else have you's.
It will be like dry county borders, only there will be McD's lining the first mile of a Happy Meal county.
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Plus, not to mention it is an opportunity for other conglomerates to catch up. McDonald's is out of the playing ball park for now, but the others can step up their game and take advantage of it. More sales for happy meals at BK, Wendy's, Carl's/Hardee's, Jack in the Box, what else have you's.
The ban extends to ANY fast food restaurants, not just McDonald's. It said that as long as it provides junk food, it is forbidden to add toys. It does ALLOW toys IF they include vegetable or fruit on its allowed list. I don't think it's that difficult to implement.

Besides, it's a local decision, not a state or federal decision so don't be whining about "big government."

Think of all the places that banned a lot of things - notably the sale of alcohol and adult shops and some businesses. Heck, some even banned the sale of dildos, weird!
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Also, SF was NOT the first to have that kind of ban proposal. Silicon Valley banned it already.

It?s a sad day for Happy Meals in Santa Clara County - Los Angeles Times
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Kind of funny liberals are demanding to tax junk food to pay for healthcare, when the libertarian solution is more reasonable: stop the government from hiding the cost of producing junk food; then the government budget wouldn't be so bloated, and there is no reason for them to tax as much as they are now, let alone tax MORE.

I am not against conventional food; I just don't see why taxpayers have to be deluded into thinking what they are buying is a product of capitalist competition when it's really a product of corporate-socialist programs.

The healthcare crisis won't be so severe if people make a more conscious choice with their wallets if grocery is tenfold cheaper than convinence food; and we certainly don't need taxes to convince us to do so.
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And certainly no bailouts for Kalifornia if they keep up with the debt spending. The HR will make sure of that.
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All political jabbering and mumbo-jumbo aside, it's still an aggressive approach at solving the wrong problem.

Take a second off from McDonalds and see the large scale perspective, what else contributes to childhood obesity?

- Overindulgence of food
- Lack of exercise
- Parental (lack) education or personality
- Parental/Individual/Child Awareness

I wonder, if teachers taught basic nutrition in 3rd-6th grade, it could potentially have a better effect on the children than having no happy meals.

Do we ban video games since, having too much of it can cause children to be obese too.. And kill people. (Harris and Klebold)

I'm pretty sure the ulterior motive is to promote 'health awareness' (which I think is the cover picture for the ban) but it's for all the wrong reasons. It's almost like a Jack Thompson approach in this essence, only it's about food.

At the same time the growing budget problem. Another issue at bay. Jobs cut, police hours cut, evening shifts cut, Students can't attend higher education, these happy meal sales were inadvertently helping. The bay can do better.
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Armchair politicians are probably giddy over this. It's pretty much a pointless ban in my opinion. The drive to overindulge, spoil and/or overfeed their children is still there.

What happened during the great prohibition period?
We're going to have an Al Capone version of hamburglar spreading these happy meals in other forms. Expect a hamburglar soon at a fast food station near you.

Plus, not to mention it is an opportunity for other conglomerates to catch up. McDonald's is out of the playing ball park for now, but the others can step up their game and take advantage of it. More sales for happy meals at BK, Wendy's, Carl's/Hardee's, Jack in the Box, what else have you's.
Ha ha. So true. I would prefer it that people have a good knowledge of nutrition and put that to good use than to outlaw fast food.

I tend to avoid fast food for the most part due to health reasons. And though I'd prefer it that healthy food be favored over fast food, I'd stop at outlawing fastfood places.
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