Jiro

tick tock tick tock. it is predicted that Democrats will win the Senate.

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Steinhauer

That's a purty darn dang good crystal ball there alright .... where could I buy me one? I got one on e-bay and it didn't work.

Steinhauer

The system of government that we now have was based upon the system of government the Romans established.

The same system of government the British established was also modelled after the Roman system of government.

So the claim that the Americans "copied" the British is incorrect.

Both systems of government were based on the Roman system of government.

Since the Roman system of government pre-dates that of the United Kingdom and the United States, it would be fair to give credit to the Romans.

basic info:

http://www.mrdowling.com/702-government.html

more info:

http://www.oppapers.com/essays/Simil...vernment/81543

and .... even more info:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...undations.html

Jiro

crystal ball means you can see into future. no such thing exists. I merely made a simple prediction based on current situation.

but since you had to ask.... Larry J. Sabato's Crystal Ball

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Steinhauer

and its FREE too!!

Jiro

thanks but no thanks. I knew this when you were learning how to use a spoon

btw - see red bold print. who said that in this thread?

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Steinhauer

it was implied here:

2010 Election Results

the idea that the Patriots were "copying" an idea of revolution and it suddenly appeared on our continent is absolutely absurd.

Absurd isn't something you eat with a spoon

Jiro

actually - you implied it.

and if UK didn't exist, America wouldn't have existed.

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Steinhauer

The idea of a revolution didn't just suddenly appear on our continent because of some peice of paper the British passed through their parliament - the idea of revolution is ....... very old.

Jiro

so now you're saying it's from Spartan (Greece) instead of Roman?

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Steinhauer

I am saying the idea of revolution isn't something the British "invented".

Jiro

but... how did you go from "system of government" to "idea of revolution" in your post #123?

since you're jumping all over the place with irrelevant & inconsistent points.... plus you have an erroneous understanding of American history... I take it that you're not in your best mood.

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Steinhauer

In post 123 you were stating that George Washington was a dictator because he was POTUS.

Now your asking questions relating to "systems of government' and "revolution" and how they tie in to a post where it was implied Americans "got the idea of revolution from a peice of paper the British passed through parliament" and that I had implied this.

No, I didn't imply it.

No, George Washington was not a dictator.

No, the British did not invent the idea of a revolution.

No, Americans did not "copy" our system of government from the British.



Any more questions?

did you actually take American history? Did you root for the loyalists and think they were right?

As you stated in another post, do you really think the POTUS has absolute power and everything else is subordinate to the POTUS?

Since you have clearly stated that - you need a refresher course on how that belief is absolutely false.

Steinhauer

just posting the quote where you implied the President has absolute power in case you forgot all about it.

That clearly demonstrates you do not fully comprehend how the US Constitution functions and what it represents. The Constitution clearly states that THE PEOPLE are in charge of this nation, not the president.


The current POTUS has not listened to the will of THE PEOPLE, and instead, chose to enforce his will on THE PEOPLE. That is NOT what the US Constitution allows.

In fact, that is a form of tyranny, a dictator, a pontiff, a despot ......

Jiro

um... no I didn't state such thing. I asked you if you're saying George Washington was a dictator since.... it's what Roman Empire was based on... dictatorship.

imply imply imply. Perhaps you should ask for clarification instead of assuming.



did souggy say "invented" in his post?

nobody said that except you.

yes. Embarrassing that the Canadian and a Korean-born guy know it better than you.

how did you come to that point?

I have clearly stated that? where?

and

read Article II.

your reading comprehension = EPIC FAIL?

feel free to ask if you need any more clarification about the American history.

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Foxrac

Whatever, obviously, you take on him because of his party.

It means you see ALL democrats as debt stricken.

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Banjo

As expected, the Republicans is now the majority in the House. Although I think people were overestimating how many seats they would take over. As far I am concerned, not much is going to change. People will still be acting like children refusing to cooperate for the sake of their political agenda.

This election is nothing compared to the federal election of 1993 in Canada. The PC party had 169 seats prior to the 1993 election. After that, they only had 2 seats left. The NDP had around 43 seats and they went down to 9 seats.

Two parties, the Bloc and Reform parties, won 54 seats and 52 seats. Bloc was a new party at the time, Reform wasn't. The biggest winner was the Liberal party with 177 seats, a gain of 94 seats.

We never saw such results in the federal election in the history of Canada.

Foxrac

Oh yes because of Goods and Services Tax (GST) and I haven't seen GST being repeal in majority liberals.

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Barbaro

I'm glad Christine O'Donnell was not elected due to her odd ideas. I was a bit disappointed that CA rejected Prop 19. At least CA permits medical marijuana.

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Banjo

Of course it wasn't repelled. It's a cash cow. The Liberal party promised they would get rid of it. It never happened.

However, the Conservatives did cut it down from 7% to 5%. But still...

Foxrac

Yes, it seems like our healthcare reform isn't going repeal in anytime soon and only change in republican majority is probably government spending and tax policies.

I'm not impressed with majority in party (either is Dem or GOP) and it won't be easier to make a change in our government.

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kokonut

I've seen most predictions by analysts as saying the number of seats gained by the Republicans fell between 60 and 70 seats based on continuing polls right up to election time. So far, Republicans have gained 60 seats with 12 seats left to go for a total of 239 seats. There were very few overestimates into the 70s or higher. There were some under-estimates of 30s to 40s seats gained as well.

I'd say Obama acted like a baby. He never bothered to talk to Senate Republican minority Mitch McConnell for 18 months until least week when Obama realized the real prospect of a huge HR gains for Republicans. How convenient.

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kokonut

Um, major health care changes won't take place until 2014 where, for example, required insurance takes place or pay a penalty, er, tax. That leaves us with a 2012 election and the possibility of replacing Obama. And the possibility of repealing some, most or all of Obamacare. Changes in health care begins in 2011, 2013, 2014 and 2018.

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Beowulf

"What does it all mean, Mr. Natural?"

"Don't mean shit."

kokonut

Oh, it means alot. Especially with the huge wins in the legislature and governor seats. There were many Democrats who won their seats in 2008 on fiscal responsibility will certainly be looking over their shoulders come the 2012 election unless they can actually live up to their words in the next two years.

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souggy

I never said the American copied their system from the British, nor did I say the British invented the concept of revolution.

All I said is the Patriots would had never revolted if they didn't want the same access to the Bill of Rights of 1689 that British subjects got after the Glorious Revolution of 1688. If they were treated equally as they were back in the "motherland," the revolution would had never happened.

And who passed the Bill of Rights of 1689? The British Parliament. So it's not really about dictatorship or a tyrant, but equality between the home country and her overseas colonies.

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kokonut

A few facts after the election at the state level:

State Senate – Republicans Gain Majority Control
Alabama
Maine
New Hampshire
New York
North Carolina
Wisconsin

State House – Republicans Gain Majority Control
Alabama
Colorado
Indiana
Iowa
Maine
Michigan
Indiana
Michigan
Montana
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Wisconsin

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Beowulf

The same goes for today's winners. When the economy is still stagnant in 2012, what then? Folk will be disappointed the winners never had a magic wand after all. Interesting.

Foxrac

but it won't be easier - tough luck.

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kokonut

I guess we'll watch and see but the mandate is about the economy and fiscal restraint which was the voters' message. Boehner will certainly help make sure of that as Speaker of the House. He's a savvy businessman. So, bye bye Nancy Pelosi. Give up that gavel that you have irresponsibily helped drive up the debt.

On January 4, 2007 when she took that role she said in her speech:

"And the American people told us they expected us to work together for fiscal responsibility, with the highest ethical standards and with civility and bipartisanship.

After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay-as-you-go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt."

She failed miserably on fiscal responsibility. Failed on ethical standards. Failed on civility. And failed on bipartisanship. She failed at any semblance of "higher standard." No wonder she leaves the House with a 29% approval rating.

Give up your gavel, Nancy. Time for you to leave.

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