House committee charges Rangel with multiple ethical violations - Page 2

kokonut · 07-31-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by darkdog

I guess I should cancel my rejoicing over a corrupt man getting his comeuppance. Apparently, all he gets for this is a reprimand. That's right- the guy who was in charge of writing the tax code can cheat on his taxes, among a gazillion other things, and gets the same punishment as Joe Wilson got for yelling "You lie!" I want to see this guy expelled and put on trial just as I would be if I did a tenth of what's alleged against him.

House investigators back Rangel reprimand - CNN.com

Maxine Waters is in the mix, too.

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Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) has chosen to go through an ethics trial, like the one lined up for New York Rep. Charles Rangel, rather than accepting charges made by an ethics subcommittee, a source familiar with the process tells POLITICO.

The back-to-back trials of a pair of black lawmakers represent an unprecedented use of an ethics adjudication system that has rarely been used by House members accused of breaking House rules.

Waters' case revolves around allegations that she improperly intervened with federal regulators to help a bank that her husband owned stock in and on whose board he once served.

Waters chooses ethics trial - Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

And I think Obama just gave Rangel the "Kiss of death."

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President Barack Obama has kept mum on the fate of Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) for days -- but he tells CBS News that it's time for the embattled 80-year-old former Ways and Means Chairman to end his career "with dignity."

Obama: Time for Rangel to end career "with dignity" - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

Remember this scene from The Godfather, Corleone giving the "Kiss of death"?

YouTube - Godfather II: You broke my heart Fredo

**TWA** · 07-31-2010, 05:39 PM

I'm not saying what he did is okay, or that he shouldn't be booted from congress (because he should), but these allegations are fairly small fry, and definitely things that other people in congress, dems and republicans alike, are doing on a widespread basis. Someone just had it in for him and exposed him. You can bet there are plenty more waiting in the wings.

But, he didn't lie to the country and start an illegal war. He didn't cheat on his wife and lie about it under oath. He didn't sexually proposition a federal agent in an airport bathroom. And so on.

Just saying...

kokonut · 07-31-2010, 06:14 PM

If Nancy is serious about "draining the swamp" and have the most "ethical Congress ever" then she should look at both parties and get the job done. Instead, she went at lengths to protect Rangel.

Just saying...

**TWA** · 07-31-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

If Nancy is serious about "draining the swamp" and have the most "ethical Congress ever" then she should look at both parties and get the job done. Instead, she went at lengths to protect Rangel.

Just saying...

Lol, you think I like Nancy Pelosi?

**saywhatkid** · 07-31-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

If Nancy is serious about "draining the swamp" and have the most "ethical Congress ever" then she should look at both parties and get the job done. Instead, she went at lengths to protect Rangel.

Just saying...

Not any different from you protecting the "Conservative" brand whenever possible. We all know she is a nut. Why take her seriously? I surely don't. Too bad she gets paid to speak.

kokonut · 07-31-2010, 11:55 PM

It's too bad she's the Speaker of the House, 3rd in line.

**saywhatkid** · 07-31-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

It's too bad she's the Speaker of the House, 3rd in line.

A terrifying thought. Makes me appreciate Obama a bit more. Better double the Secret Service protection he has.

kokonut · 08-01-2010, 12:00 AM

It's not that. It's Biden. He has had two aneuryisms in the past. If he drops, Nancy's 2nd in line.

**saywhatkid** · 08-01-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

It's not that. It's Biden. He has had two aneuryisms in the past. If he drops, Nancy's 2nd in line.

kokonut · 08-01-2010, 12:15 AM

What? Did you not know he had two aneuryisms in the past?

**Foxrac** · 08-01-2010, 12:23 AM

If any republicans - only true conservatives make commit crime so kokonut is going be glad to protect and soft on them.

No doubt.

kokonut · 08-01-2010, 12:33 AM

Everybody knows that committing a crime means paying the price. Doesn't matter who.

**saywhatkid** · 08-01-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

What? Did you not know he had two aneuryisms in the past?

Well, I certainly knew, but when you add it all up...

kokonut · 08-01-2010, 12:01 PM

Rather, it's "a heart beat away" for Biden. And I often ask this question as to whether his two previous aneurysms affected his rationale thinking. We all know how he has responded seeing so many gaffes pile up, the exaggerations and mindless meanderings of his own thinking outloud.

jillio · 08-02-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

What the heck is a reprimand? How can this possibly deter anyone? Even if the election for his seat was next week, voters have become so jaded to all the negative campaigns that it might not matter. Once Marion Barry was re-elected mayor, I realized anything is possible. Maybe they all are looking for leniency if they do a boo boo. "Remember when I voted for your reprimand?"

And that is a very valid point. America has become so jaded over all of the negative attack campaigns that they simply brush them aside now. We have a perfect example on our own AD. No one takes anything Kokonut posts seriously because he has over inundated the forum with his negative attack strategies.

jillio · 08-02-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Everybody knows that committing a crime means paying the price. Doesn't matter who.

Yeah, right.

There is more "umpaid for" criminal activity, particularly white collar, than there is "paid for".

And who is this "everybody" you refer to? Does a 6 month old baby know that? How about a criminal who has never been caught. How about a defense attorney? Might want to stay away from such broad generalizations.

jillio · 08-02-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

It's not that. It's Biden. He has had two aneuryisms in the past. If he drops, Nancy's 2nd in line.

And what exactly makes you think that those two past aneuryisms are life threatening in the here and now? Trying to play physician?

DGirl101 · 08-02-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

It's not that. It's Biden. He has had two aneuryisms in the past. If he drops, Nancy's 2nd in line.

What kind of aneurysm?

kokonut · 08-02-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DGirl101

What kind of aneurysm?

In the brain.

Biden Healthy, But at Increased Risk for Aneurysm, Doctor Says - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News - FOXNews.com

Maybe it was those operations made him daffy?

**Jiro** · 08-02-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

And what exactly makes you think that those two past aneuryisms are life threatening in the here and now? Trying to play physician?

exactly. I mean... look at Dick Cheney. He's in a much worse condition than Biden is.

**Jiro** · 08-02-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Rather, it's "a heart beat away" for Biden. And I often ask this question as to whether his two previous aneurysms affected his rationale thinking. We all know how he has responded seeing so many gaffes pile up, the exaggerations and mindless meanderings of his own thinking outloud.

that's what I'm infamous for. That's why I do comedy stand-ups in Brooklyn. Perhaps I'm a heart beat away from brain aneurysm?

jillio · 08-03-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

exactly. I mean... look at Dick Cheney. He's in a much worse condition than Biden is.

No doubt. As was McCain.

jillio · 08-03-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

that's what I'm infamous for. That's why I do comedy stand-ups in Brooklyn. Perhaps I'm a heart beat away from brain aneurysm?

There is only a correlation in one's rambling logic.

DGirl101 · 08-21-2010, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

In the brain.

Biden Healthy, But at Increased Risk for Aneurysm, Doctor Says - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News - FOXNews.com

Maybe it was those operations made him daffy?

I don't believe that is the cause of him going daffy. I wouldn't be suprised if his frontal lobe of the brain has been affected by aneurysms, because that area is in charge of planning, organizing, problem solving and selective attention. The area known as the prefrontal cortex controls personality and various higher cognitive functions such as behavior and emotions.

Operations usually are a measure of clearing the artery with the blockage. Most notable is the fact of where anuerysms in the brain are common. The Circle of Willis in the brain. Those arteries are at the base of the brain, they surround the cerebellum, brain stem, midbrain and pons. It branches out laterally, anteriorly and posteriorly and from there wraps around and ends superiorly on the brain.

or....

He could be one unique person.

DGirl101 · 08-21-2010, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

that's what I'm infamous for. That's why I do comedy stand-ups in Brooklyn. Perhaps I'm a heart beat away from brain aneurysm?

Nahhhh.....

07-31-2010, 06:14 PM	#33 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	If Nancy is serious about "draining the swamp" and have the most "ethical Congress ever" then she should look at both parties and get the job done. Instead, she went at lengths to protect Rangel. Just saying... __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

07-31-2010, 11:55 PM	#36 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	It's too bad she's the Speaker of the House, 3rd in line. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

08-01-2010, 12:00 AM	#38 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	It's not that. It's Biden. He has had two aneuryisms in the past. If he drops, Nancy's 2nd in line. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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TWA Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,374	I'm not saying what he did is okay, or that he shouldn't be booted from congress (because he should), but these allegations are fairly small fry, and definitely things that other people in congress, dems and republicans alike, are doing on a widespread basis. Someone just had it in for him and exposed him. You can bet there are plenty more waiting in the wings. But, he didn't lie to the country and start an illegal war. He didn't cheat on his wife and lie about it under oath. He didn't sexually proposition a federal agent in an airport bathroom. And so on. Just saying...

08-01-2010, 12:33 AM	#42 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Everybody knows that committing a crime means paying the price. Doesn't matter who. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

08-01-2010, 12:01 PM	#44 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Rather, it's "a heart beat away" for Biden. And I often ask this question as to whether his two previous aneurysms affected his rationale thinking. We all know how he has responded seeing so many gaffes pile up, the exaggerations and mindless meanderings of his own thinking outloud. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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