Arizona governor signs immigration bill - Page 19

whatdidyousay! · 04-28-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by souggy

Still apples and oranges.

Government still require you to provide proof of citizen... when you vote, when you go to the ER, when you file for social security, when you file for taxes, go to pay for insurance and driver licences, go to a bar and so on. No one is going to come up and ask if you have health insurance randomly. Instead, what they're going to do is look at your records or deal with you when the need for identification arises.

What ER are you going to ! I never had to prove that I am citizen to do any of the thing you wrote! You do have show driving license to vote now to prove that you are you! I once had an ID that I did not realize had expired , I did not drive then. I was told I could not use the ID card to pay by check , I said but I did not expired , it still me! The woman would not buy that! I would not be at least bit shock it some did randomly ask me to show my insurance card!

**Beowulf** · 04-28-2010, 07:38 PM

"Let me see your papers."

"Awww, I only have a pipe."

whatdidyousay! · 04-28-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

If your brother-in-law is legal and carries documentation with him, what does he have to worry about?

Because some people think he is from Iran and it not from there!

kokonut · 04-28-2010, 07:42 PM

siggghhhhh................

whatdidyousay! · 04-28-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

did he pass the amnesty for illegals?

btw - we're already paying for healthcare coverage for American criminals including politicians.

And we're paying for criminals hair cuts and in my state we paid for a criminal
to have hair removed from his body as he wanted to be a woman! It made you what to stop paying your taxes when you hear how it being spend!

souggy · 04-28-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

What ER are you going to ! I never had to prove that I am citizen to do any of the thing you wrote! You do have show driving license to vote now to prove that you are you! I once had an ID that I did not realize had expired , I did not drive then. I was told I could not use the ID card to pay by check , I said but I did not expired , it still me! The woman would not buy that! I would not be at least bit shock it some did randomly ask me to show my insurance card!

You do realize the States will have mandatory insurance soon, right?

Right?

Right?

How else will they get your insurance information? Your insurance have information as far as legal residence, how old, medical records and so on.

**Reba** · 04-28-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

People are going to stopped for being Hispanic! They could going to work or bring their kids to school and be stopped! Hispanics been warned by the Mexcian government to be careful about taking a trip to AZ for a vaction!
People could be on a vaction and get stopped! I know I would not want that to happen to me if I was in another country!

That may happen but it has nothing to do with behavior profiling.

**Reba** · 04-28-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

Because some people think he is from Iran and it not from there!

What people? The police?

whatdidyousay! · 04-28-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by souggy

You do realize the States will have mandatory insurance soon, right?

Right?

Right?

How else will they get your insurance information? Your insurance have information as far as legal residence, how old, medical records and so on.

My state already has mandatory insurance!

CJB · 04-28-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Thanks. That just proves the point of who is doing the attacking. SEIU attacks a Tea Party protester, a black man no less.

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Actually, had it been the other way around it'd be all over the news. But in this instance, it wasn't and was mostly kept under wraps.

As for the news, they do that all the time when it comes it.

So because the news is racist it's okay to be racist?

**Reba** · 04-28-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sallylou

Reba as a hippie? I can't see it.

I had tendencies during the late 60's.

1969-70

kokonut · 04-28-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

My state already has mandatory insurance!

You mean driving insurance?

souggy · 04-28-2010, 07:59 PM

She lives in Boston, I think.

kokonut · 04-28-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I had tendencies during the late 60's.

1969-70

Wow on the pix.

**Reba** · 04-28-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

What about the Black Panther Party? I know it's far to the left.

I remember the Black Panthers. Politically radical and the darlings of Hollywood and white liberal elite. Weird mix. Tended towards violence and intimidation.

Unlike MLK's movement that strove for inclusion, the Panthers wanted separation. Also, they were openly Marxist and Maoist.

Their's is a very interesting story and chapter in American history.

**Reba** · 04-28-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Wow on the pix.

**Jiro** · 04-28-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I had tendencies during the late 60's.

1969-70

wow... strikingly similar! but that's "hippie"??? lol

**Reba** · 04-28-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

wow... strikingly similar! but that's "hippie"??? lol

Similar to what?

**Jiro** · 04-28-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Similar to what?

your 1969 pix and your avatar. similar haircut. similar face. the time has been graciously kind to you!

**Reba** · 04-28-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

your 1969 pix and your avatar. similar haircut. similar face. the time has been graciously kind to you!

Ha, ha. My "hippie" picture was taken the same year as my avatar picture. I sure don't look like that now!

On duty I was squared away. Off duty I was the free spirit.

**deafskeptic** · 04-28-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by souggy

Wirelessly posted

You're sure?

Corporatism stinks.

I was thinking the same thing.

kokonut · 04-28-2010, 09:50 PM

Corporatism? Which ones and in what context?

**Foxrac** · 04-28-2010, 09:52 PM

Latino businesses feel pinch of new immigration law - CNN.com

Not surprised.

kokonut · 04-28-2010, 09:53 PM

They should be so lucky considering that Mexican immigration policies are much stricter than the United States.

souggy · 04-28-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

I was thinking the same thing.

I doubt Communism will happen; not as long America keeps its system of trias politica in order: separation of Congress, President and the Supreme Court.

I know "never say never," but if we look at history, in which "history repeats itself," Communism in practice is more closely tied to agricultural societies, with ruling elites, and revolutions. Fascism... however has close ties to corporate backings and democratic populism-- both are real concerns in any industrial or post-industrial democratic nations.

**Jiro** · 04-28-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Corporatism? Which ones and in what context?

Food, Inc.

**Foxrac** · 04-28-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Food, Inc.

**Jiro** · 04-28-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

They should be so lucky considering that Mexican immigration policies are much stricter than the United States.

can you please tell me what are the Mexican immigration policies?

**deafskeptic** · 04-28-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by souggy

I doubt Communism will happen; not as long America keeps its system of trias politica in order: separation of Congress, President and the Supreme Court.

I know "never say never," but if we look at history, in which "history repeats itself," Communism in practice is more closely tied to agricultural societies, with ruling elites, and revolutions. Fascism... however has close ties to corporate backings and democratic populism-- both are real concerns in any industrial or post-industrial democratic nations.

If the South ever reverts back to it agricultral roots, how likely do you think that Southerners would go communist? Given that many anti commies - maybe even most of them - live in the South, how likely do you think that'll happen?

Just asking.

Of course, it could happen in the USA. Just not too likely given the current trends.

souggy · 04-28-2010, 11:17 PM

Wirelessly posted

Post-WW2 South?

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