kokonut

What more undiscovered mandates hidden in the Obamacare bill now?

How about forcing all restaurants that have 20 chains or more to comply with that each food items be calorie counted? Just like Nancy Pelosi said, vote on this bill and then you can find out what's in it afterwards.

The Associated Press: Health law will make calorie counts hard to ignore

The majority of us do not even count calories, much less count calories at home, except for the perhaps the fitness-lifestyle minded people and those with, say, Type II diabetic conditions. Counting calories is fine. Jst that it's just the pettiness of this bill that will hurt smaller chains which tend to be more local in nature than regional or nationwide ones like Pizza Hut or Chilis. In making changes on a menu it would be easier to do for larger chains. But not so for smaller chains costing them perhaps a few hundred thousand dollars to analyze their food specialties and revamping menus in all restaurants. It becomes harder, financially so, o the smaller sized chains. All this permeates an anti-growth policy treating adults like children. Elitist snobbery over common sense.


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yizuman

Well, looks like the cheap 1 dollar menu at McDonald's is gonna disappear and the prices on fast food going up with this new regulation.

Any new regulation always drives prices up.

Yiz

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netrox

"The majority of us do not even count calories, much less count calories at home, except for the perhaps the fitness-lifestyle minded people and those with, say, Type II diabetic conditions. Counting calories is fine. Jst that it's just the pettiness of this bill that will hurt smaller chains which tend to be more local in nature than regional or nationwide ones like Pizza Hut or Chilis. In making changes on a menu it would be easier to do for larger chains. But not so for smaller chains costing them perhaps a few hundred thousand dollars to analyze their food specialties and revamping menus in all restaurants. It becomes harder, financially so, o the smaller sized chains. All this permeates an anti-growth policy treating adults like children. Elitist snobbery over common sense."

That is 100% B.S. Most people don't count, that is true but many experiments have been done to see how people make decisions and they find consistently that those who were given calories in their face were much more likely to change their order to a lower calorie meal than those who were not given the info. That's the goal of the law - make people be aware of how much they're consuming when given the info.

It is NOT hard to calculate how many calories in a given meal. You don't need to hire a nutritionist to get an estimate of each meal. Just get on internet, calculate the calories of each ingredient and add up and that's what you get. How hard is that? It's free. It takes only a few minutes. Redesigning menus? You know that normally, menus are replaced every year?

yizuman

When a Government regulates food, do you realize how much regulation they actually put into it?

Guess how many words there are in regulating on one single cabbage?

http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/getf...TELPRDC5050254

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TXgolfer

Special post to those 4 people on earth who don't realize fast food isn't healthy.

Also Unhealthy:
Using a hair dryer while taking a bath
Adding water to your milk because it has gotten solid
Swimming in the Gulf wearing a bloody meat swimsuit
Hand cleaning your oven while it is on
Drinking gasoline
Using a product that says it will kill you on the package
Taking scissors in a bounce house
Tickling alligators
Playing jump rope with fallen electrical lines
Eating glass
Trying to saddle a bear
Diving into an empty pool
(Tugging on Superman's Cape,Spitting into the wind,pulling the mask of the lone ranger and messing around with Jim)
Flirting with Cougars (2 legged or 4 legged)
Licking frozen metal
Texting drunk
Highway surfing
Highway skiing
Highway Skiing (Winter)
Pretty much anything on a highway
Humping a rattlesnake
Getting between a mamma and her cubs
Getting between a Chicagoan and their cubs
Wearing a yankee hat to Fenway
Wearing a Red Sox hat to Yankee Stadium

-To be continued-

netrox

So? You want a bad cabbage?

Whining doesn't help.

yizuman

What business is to a Government as to what we eat?

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TWA

LOL. My favorites were "Tickling and alligator" and "Humping a rattlesnake."

Maybe I just have a thing for reptiles?

Back on topic though: While I think it's true that most people understand that fast food is unhealthy, I doubt very few people understand just how unhealthy it is, not only to our own bodies, but to our public health, our economy, and our overall happiness.

Watch "Food Inc." and let me know what you think. I think it's a good movie because it makes an economic argument for "health food" without all the bleeding heart moral arguments that you usually get when discussing vegetarianism and health food, animal rights, etc.

There is no question about it; the food we eat is directly related to the unhealthiness of this country.

Tousi

Just nevermind him, Yizuman, cuz it is too late to save him as he is past the suckling stage.

netrox

To assure safety of our food, what else? You don't realize how BAD our food was before regulations existed. So many died of food poisoning.

Death and the Human Environment

As we regulate the food and water, poisonings went down dramatically.

So yes, it's our business to know what we're eating.

netrox

I've concluded that cabbage heads have higher IQ's than some of posters here.

TXgolfer

Yeah I hear whine alot. Seems like that would apply more to the "I can't" party. I can't afford health care Whaaaa! I can't find a job Whaaa! People make fun of me because I am different whaaa! My mortgage company gave me a loan I can't afford whaaa! I am fat because Mc Donald's gave me fattening food Whaaa! My unemployment ends this week after only 6 months whaaa!

Conservatives don't cry, they act. What you hear is not a whine it's a warning.

Mc Donald's is hiring. Time to stop suckling the public teet and grab an oar.

TWA

That's not always 100% true. Just like 100% of liberals are not unemployed, welfare grubbing non-contributors.

And you know it, dude. Doesn't matter what party or philosophy we're talking about, there will always be lazy complainers.

And I'm wondering what good ore will do you when what you really need is an oar.

Bottesini

Ore would do more good. You could sell it for much more than an oar.

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Tousi

And use the ore to buy an acre or two and some Super seeds. Then we'd be well on our way to washing that stuff right outta our systems!

TWA

Okay you smartypants, how much ore are we talking about here? Is this gold ore? Iron ore? Copper? You wanna get technical? Let's get technical!!!!

Bottesini

Platinum ore! Discovered in the high IQ cabbage fields!

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posts from hell

Done some of these..

Also done this:
Getting between a pissed off fully grown bull moose and his women.

Oh and eating glass aint all that bad..

Babyblue

Well they have warning labels on alcohol and cigarettes!

I'm sure it will not be long before certain menu items will have warning label.

Such as... May cause obesity, heart attack, stroke... Etc.

TXgolfer

Oops. Now I have to call mom and tell her I am not perfect after all.

TXgolfer

And sorry. My experience here is that Democrats are the party of cry babies
and gimme gimme gimme

TWA

Humility is a good trait. Glad to see you have it.

Babyblue

Sounds like my kids from time to time.

I want, I want! Gimme, gimme, gimme!


I tell them.... Money doesn't grow on trees.

Just though to add that input.

TXgolfer

Now that I have resigned you should be President.

Babyblue

I would be shot!

DGirl101

What would you do differently if it were you making the changes to the bill?


I agree with the intent behind making a count of calories open to the public.

I don't agree with the business' being forced to change it.

You have to admit....there is a growing trend...obesity in the population and it starts out with children.....one of my sons is husky and getting more husky because his dad is too lazy to cook and feeds them both McD's burger king, pizza and all sorts of things.

I think it is the governments way of a step to being a healthy country, ...but how they are doing it...there is another way...

Foxrac

I'm not surprise about this thread.

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TWA

Just wondering, do you mean "here" as in this forum? Or in your real life? In my life, I mainly know democrats. All of them have good jobs and are hard workers. Very few are "crybabies."

In my experience the "crybabies" and "gimme gimme gimme" types are people with neither a political association, nor the fortitude to go vote. I think conservatives, especially as of late with the whole Tea Party movement, have a pretty skewed tendency to "other" anyone who isn't in their own narrow mindset and label them as a "liberal" or democrat.

Let me ask you this hypothetical question: If I work hard for what I earn, and I do and always have, even if it is not much, don't I deserve the right to express my opinion on how taxes should be spent?

Oh wait, that sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Conservative have some silly notion that they are the only people making money in this country and thus are the only people who should decide how taxes are used. I think you'd be pretty shocked to see the real numbers.

TXgolfer

I was referring to real life.

Everyone has the right to their opinion.....that is why we would be better off letting states handle these issues. Then people who believe as I do could choose to live in a state that fits our philosophy and vice versa.

Everybody can be happy.

TXgolfer

I might add that it might be different if we were all taxed at the same rate. It does seem a little ridiculous that person A pays 22% and person B pays 40% yet the person that pays 22% has an equal say in whether person B should pay more and what they should pay for.

If that person paying 22% was paying 40% they might have a different opinion about how much we spend and how we spend it. Some might argue that Person B isn't getting fair representation.