Stimulus Pkg at work

**TXgolfer** · 02-18-2010, 03:25 AM

People have been calling the GOP the party of No. Well that might just be a good thing. The GOP voted No for the stimulus package. The package put together by Obama's people and paid for with your hard earned tax dollars in an effort to improve the economy. Please read the link below and see if you are happy with what you are paying for. It is also good for alot of laugh....really.

note:it takes a bit to load but it is worth it. and the stories are shorter and more funny starting at #12 if you don't want to read all day

http://coburn.senate.gov/public/inde...7-df57b39ed872

**TXgolfer** · 02-18-2010, 03:38 AM

My favorite is #42

Ohio spends $1 million stimulus dollars on highway signs informing you that the highway work was paid for with stimulus dollars.

DGirl101 · 02-21-2010, 02:32 AM

oh my god.....

I almost fell asleep reading all that.

Why am I sharing air with those people?

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGirl101

oh my god.....

I almost fell asleep reading all that.

Why am I sharing air with those people?

Yeah it's better to start at #12 where they get shorter.....still funny stuff.

And you're not just sharing air.....you are sharing money....we all are

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 03:02 AM

*Yawn*

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

*Yawn*

I guess you have money to burn.. Most people don't like having their hard earned money taken away so college kids can go on a free vacation. Most people would rather spend their hard earned money taking their OWN kids on vacation.

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I guess you have money to burn.. Most people don't like having their hard earned money taken away so college kids can go on a free vacation. Most people would rather spend their hard earned money taking their OWN kids on vacation.

Wrong assumption.

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Wrong assumption.

Do you like working so that people you don't know can go to Costa Rica or Rio?

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Do you like working so that people you don't know can go to Costa Rica or Rio?

The financial situation are different and varies by families, even I do know some families with kids are never been on vacation but rather to spend the money on home improvement or many something to do.

02-21-2010, 09:05 AM

This is exactly why I am apathetic to the whole process. They are going to spend on whatever they want to without any input from the people other than congress. They are all a bunch of ****ing crooks!!

ASLGAL · 02-21-2010, 10:42 AM

Quote:

My favorite is #42

Ohio spends $1 million stimulus dollars on highway signs informing you that the highway work was paid for with stimulus dollars.

I have seen the signs but there is never any work being done there

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 12:45 PM

Fiscal issue aren't on my high priority for good reason because both of conservative and liberal are very divided; it is difficult to have bipartisanship on fiscal issue. The tax system in US, especially IRS has been existing for many years and never been reformed yet, such as change the tax law, other way to collect tax or change about how would be taxed, for example, flat tax and FairTax Act.

Right now, my high priority on issue is health care, copyright law and some of GLBT rights, especially civil issue, that reason about I don't get agree with many republicans or conservative because of anti-GLBT so that's leading me to lose their respect if they aren't take care of GLBT issue, such as need hate crime law, anti-discrimination law on employment, housing, college, etc and grant the more rights like civil unions. For copyright law, hear about broadcast flag in near future that would prevent you from record the tv shows or degrade the resolution to lower quality if you want record so it is form of DRM, that which is allowed under DCMA. I'm against DRM on anything and there's new online authentication for upcoming games that require you to have internet all day as you need play the games so unfair for customers with dial-up or no internet at all because not all place has broadband so it is very bad solution for DRM. Many of crack on DRM has been successful, especially on games and that why I want DCMA to repeal, even copyright law need be reformed and DRM need be banned.

For health care issue, you already know that, it isn't about public options but just different issue need be fixed and already debated in other thread.

txgolfer, now, you understand about how I feel about issues because you and I don't have same structure about concern, priorities or issues with US government.

If Republican Party changes the platform to remove the anti-GLBT and increase of GLBT support among conservatives so would enable for me to get more side with them but it wouldn't happen for while and just slowly change.

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

The financial situation are different and varies by families, even I do know some families with kids are never been on vacation but rather to spend the money on home improvement or many something to do.

What does that have to do with anything?????

The point was this.....Our tax dollars are being used to pay for the Stimulus......the stimulus is paying for nearly 9000 earmarks.....some of them include stuff like sending students from Duke to Costa Rica over summer.

I think most people would rather not pay for that

They would probably rather spend it on their own family.

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASLGAL

I have seen the signs but there is never any work being done there

They probably spent all the money on signs

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Fiscal issue aren't on my high priority for good reason because both of conservative and liberal are very divided; it is difficult to have bipartisanship on fiscal issue. The tax system in US, especially IRS has been existing for many years and never been reformed yet, such as change the tax law, other way to collect tax or change about how would be taxed, for example, flat tax and FairTax Act.

Right now, my high priority on issue is health care, copyright law and some of GLBT rights, especially civil issue, that reason about I don't get agree with many republicans or conservative because of anti-GLBT so that's leading me to lose their respect if they aren't take care of GLBT issue, such as need hate crime law, anti-discrimination law on employment, housing, college, etc and grant the more rights like civil unions. For copyright law, hear about broadcast flag in near future that would prevent you from record the tv shows or degrade the resolution to lower quality if you want record so it is form of DRM, that which is allowed under DCMA. I'm against DRM on anything and there's new online authentication for upcoming games that require you to have internet all day as you need play the games so unfair for customers with dial-up or no internet at all because not all place has broadband so it is very bad solution for DRM. Many of crack on DRM has been successful, especially on games and that why I want DCMA to repeal, even copyright law need be reformed and DRM need be banned.

For health care issue, you already know that, it isn't about public options but just different issue need be fixed and already debated in other thread.

txgolfer, now, you understand about how I feel about issues because you and I don't have same structure about concern, priorities or issues with US government.

If Republican Party changes the platform to remove the anti-GLBT and increase of GLBT support among conservatives so would enable for me to get more side with them but it wouldn't happen for while and just slowly change.

What does this have to do with the stimulus pkg???? This thread is about the waste in the stimulus package. You must not have read the link.

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXgolfer

What does this have to do with the stimulus pkg???? This thread is about the waste in the stimulus package. You must not have read the link.

I'm just show you about reason because I'm not side with conservative or republican so fiscal issue, including stimulus package is out of question due divided into many issues on between of parties.

You need understand about how I was feeling about fiscal issue, even I don't give a damn about it until politicians would agree in combined so I use my own priorities to support on some of political issues.

Last word to say, who does hell care about stimulus package, they are nothing and too late to changed or get revised.

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

I'm just show you about reason because I'm not side with conservative or republican so fiscal issue, including stimulus package is out of question due divided into many issues on between of parties.

You need understand about how I was feeling about fiscal issue, even I don't give a damn about it until politicians would agree in combined so I use my own priorities to support on some of political issues.

Last word to say, who does hell care about stimulus package, they are nothing and too late to changed or get revised.

Actually you are wrong. Alot of the money hasn't been spent yet so there is plenty of time to recall the bill and stop funding certain projects.

The stimulus passed on Democrat votes alone. Unfortunetly many American's never read the bill. Most hard working American's are shocked when they find out their tax dollars are being spent on vacations. Not only vacations, but vacations for Students at an expensive private University.

Democrats are supposed to be the party of the poor. If that is so why are they spending our hard earned money this way when people need jobs. People are losing their houses yet the democrats are increasing spending to pay for a Martini bar and a tunnel for turtles

Coburn releases report on wastefull stimulus spending. - ABC News

Stimulus Funds for Martini Bars, Rat Sex? - CBS Evening News - CBS News

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

I'm just show you about reason because I'm not side with conservative or republican so fiscal issue, including stimulus package is out of question due divided into many issues on between of parties.

You need understand about how I was feeling about fiscal issue, even I don't give a damn about it until politicians would agree in combined so I use my own priorities to support on some of political issues.

Last word to say, who does hell care about stimulus package, they are nothing and too late to changed or get revised.

If I remember correctly you left you posted that you quit your job at Walmart to take SSDI. If so I guess it makes sense that you wouldn't care how taxes are spent. Those who work and struggle to pay bills.....I think this matters alot

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Actually you are wrong. Alot of the money hasn't been spent yet so there is plenty of time to recall the bill and stop funding certain projects.

The stimulus passed on Democrat votes alone. Unfortunetly many American's never read the bill. Most hard working American's are shocked when they find out their tax dollars are being spent on vacations. Not only vacations, but vacations for Students at an expensive private University.

Democrats are supposed to be the party of the poor. If that is so why are they spending our hard earned money this way when people need jobs. People are losing their houses yet the democrats are increasing spending to pay for a Martini bar and a tunnel for turtles

Coburn releases report on wastefull stimulus spending. - ABC News

Stimulus Funds for Martini Bars, Rat Sex? - CBS Evening News - CBS News

It isn't wrong if anyone don't care about stimulus package like I did and it will going be off in over time.

There's economy stimulus package under Bush Admin in 2008 that where Americans got money back, depends on last four digit SSN and refund via direct deposit or mail. Is it really wasteful as stimulus package under Obama Admin? For me, either of them are wasteful in my opinion so don't get my opinion so wrong.

**Beowulf** · 02-21-2010, 05:14 PM

I buy Silver Eagles whenever I can. One can barter with them when the dollar crashes. *shrugs*

**Jiro** · 02-21-2010, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Fiscal issue aren't on my high priority for good reason because both of conservative and liberal are very divided; it is difficult to have bipartisanship on fiscal issue. The tax system in US, especially IRS has been existing for many years and never been reformed yet, such as change the tax law, other way to collect tax or change about how would be taxed, for example, flat tax and FairTax Act.

Right now, my high priority on issue is health care, copyright law and some of GLBT rights, especially civil issue, that reason about I don't get agree with many republicans or conservative because of anti-GLBT so that's leading me to lose their respect if they aren't take care of GLBT issue, such as need hate crime law, anti-discrimination law on employment, housing, college, etc and grant the more rights like civil unions. For copyright law, hear about broadcast flag in near future that would prevent you from record the tv shows or degrade the resolution to lower quality if you want record so it is form of DRM, that which is allowed under DCMA. I'm against DRM on anything and there's new online authentication for upcoming games that require you to have internet all day as you need play the games so unfair for customers with dial-up or no internet at all because not all place has broadband so it is very bad solution for DRM. Many of crack on DRM has been successful, especially on games and that why I want DCMA to repeal, even copyright law need be reformed and DRM need be banned.

For health care issue, you already know that, it isn't about public options but just different issue need be fixed and already debated in other thread.

txgolfer, now, you understand about how I feel about issues because you and I don't have same structure about concern, priorities or issues with US government.

If Republican Party changes the platform to remove the anti-GLBT and increase of GLBT support among conservatives so would enable for me to get more side with them but it wouldn't happen for while and just slowly change.

in case you didn't know - fiscal issue is always on top of those issues.... otherwise how else are you going to do any other issues if there's no money?

Rampratt · 02-21-2010, 05:23 PM

Know it will never happen but can see what needs to happen. First get rid of all the incumbents and when you do give them a retirement like most of the rest of us get, a percentage of salary based on number of years worked etc. Next they need to start over and get rid of about 99.99% of current laws. Start out with constitution and ten commandments Then MOST importantly, all elected officials and law makers should have to live under the exact same laws they pass for the rest of us. When we have so many out of jobs and they still give themselves increases in pay? That is our money they are spending! No that is not correct, it is our childrens and grand childrens money. Ours has been spent a long time ago.

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXgolfer

If I remember correctly you left you posted that you quit your job at Walmart to take SSDI. If so I guess it makes sense that you wouldn't care how taxes are spent. Those who work and struggle to pay bills.....I think this matters alot

I quit wal mart because I'm full time college student.

I worked at wal mart for 3 years and I'm really hard working American, of course and I have been very struggle with cost of living since make $8 per hour isn't enough for me to meet my living needs. After I have stomach issue so I decided to became college student and quit from wal mart after that because I couldn't work in physical job aka hard labor due health reason. You are wrong about SSDI, I'm collect SSI only.

I do cares about taxes that where government spent but both you and I have different opinions on issue so don't start think about me to being careless about tax are spent because I have different views than you do, none of anybody has same views as others.

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

in case you didn't know - fiscal issue is always on top of those issues.... otherwise how else are you going to do any other issues if there's no money?

We had been in debt for many years so I don't have any power to control the US government, except for votes.

**Jiro** · 02-21-2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

We had been in debt for many years so I don't have any power to control the US government, except for votes.

hence.... fiscal issue first. rest of your issues is meaningless if there's no money.

**TXgolfer** · 02-21-2010, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

It isn't wrong if anyone don't care about stimulus package like I did and it will going be off in over time.

There's economy stimulus package under Bush Admin in 2008 that where Americans got money back, depends on last four digit SSN and refund via direct deposit or mail. Is it really wasteful as stimulus package under Obama Admin? For me, either of them are wasteful in my opinion so don't get my opinion so wrong.

You said it was too late to stop it......

I am saying you are wrong because much of the money has not been spent yet.

The Bush stimulus was 1/5 the size of Obama's. Went directly to the taxpayer and Passed with 81 votes in the senate. It was a bi partisan bill and did not pay for pet projects.

The GOP voted No on Obama's stimulus. The size and the earmarks are why they voted no.

If you don't care .....why post in this thread. Hard working people deserve to hear the truth about how their taxes are being spent.

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

hence.... fiscal issue first. rest of your issues is meaningless if there's no money.

I don't think any politicians would going solve the fiscal issue, neither of republican or democrat has fix it yet.

I believe that tax system in US need be reformed but I don't want rid of Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid, even I don't want FairTax Act to be kicks in because don't agree with 23% to 30% of national sale tax on goods but I just prefer to have payroll tax.

I don't think that flat tax would going be solution for no money but just need Sweden-style tax system to rid of no money issue, however I don't want Sweden or European style tax system to be kicks in because too much to pay than being earned to home.

Cut the spending would be other solution, depends on situation but I don't want cut the SS or Medicare funds, even war funds too if Afghan is too unstable right now.

**Jiro** · 02-21-2010, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

I don't think any politicians would going solve the fiscal issue, neither of republican or democrat has fix it yet.

I believe that ax system in US need be reformed but I don't want rid of Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid, even I don't want FairTax Act to be kicks in because don't agree with 23% to 30% of national sale tax on goods but I just prefer to have payroll tax.

I don't think that flat tax would going be solution for no money but just need Sweden-style tax system to rid of no money issue, however I don't want Sweden or European style tax system to be kicks in because too much to pay than being earned to home.

Cut the spending would be other solution, depends on situation but I don't want cut the SS or Medicare funds, even war funds too if Afghan is too unstable right now.

then you can forget about most of issues.

**Beowulf** · 02-21-2010, 05:36 PM

Ask the Federal Reserve Board to explain it. Oh wait. It is privately owned with no auditing or accountability.

**Foxrac** · 02-21-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXgolfer

You said it was too late to stop it......

I am saying you are wrong because much of the money has not been spent yet.

The Bush stimulus was 1/5 the size of Obama's. Went directly to the taxpayer and Passed with 81 votes in the senate. It was a bi partisan bill and did not pay for pet projects.

The GOP voted No on Obama's stimulus. The size and the earmarks are why they voted no.

If you don't care .....why post in this thread. Hard working people deserve to hear the truth about how their taxes are being spent.

Not every hard working people does agree with you.

I used to be hard working people, it was just at time when Obama passed stimulus package in 2009 so I don't have much opinion on it, except for wasteful as other stimulus package under Bush Admin does.

02-18-2010, 03:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
TXgolfer Dream Weaver Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Everywhere Posts: 17,594	Stimulus Pkg at work People have been calling the GOP the party of No. Well that might just be a good thing. The GOP voted No for the stimulus package. The package put together by Obama's people and paid for with your hard earned tax dollars in an effort to improve the economy. Please read the link below and see if you are happy with what you are paying for. It is also good for alot of laugh....really. note:it takes a bit to load but it is worth it. and the stories are shorter and more funny starting at #12 if you don't want to read all day http://coburn.senate.gov/public/inde...7-df57b39ed872

02-21-2010, 03:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,444	Yawn __________________ In Moto We Trust

02-21-2010, 12:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,444	Fiscal issue aren't on my high priority for good reason because both of conservative and liberal are very divided; it is difficult to have bipartisanship on fiscal issue. The tax system in US, especially IRS has been existing for many years and never been reformed yet, such as change the tax law, other way to collect tax or change about how would be taxed, for example, flat tax and FairTax Act. Right now, my high priority on issue is health care, copyright law and some of GLBT rights, especially civil issue, that reason about I don't get agree with many republicans or conservative because of anti-GLBT so that's leading me to lose their respect if they aren't take care of GLBT issue, such as need hate crime law, anti-discrimination law on employment, housing, college, etc and grant the more rights like civil unions. For copyright law, hear about broadcast flag in near future that would prevent you from record the tv shows or degrade the resolution to lower quality if you want record so it is form of DRM, that which is allowed under DCMA. I'm against DRM on anything and there's new online authentication for upcoming games that require you to have internet all day as you need play the games so unfair for customers with dial-up or no internet at all because not all place has broadband so it is very bad solution for DRM. Many of crack on DRM has been successful, especially on games and that why I want DCMA to repeal, even copyright law need be reformed and DRM need be banned. For health care issue, you already know that, it isn't about public options but just different issue need be fixed and already debated in other thread. txgolfer, now, you understand about how I feel about issues because you and I don't have same structure about concern, priorities or issues with US government. If Republican Party changes the platform to remove the anti-GLBT and increase of GLBT support among conservatives so would enable for me to get more side with them but it wouldn't happen for while and just slowly change. __________________ In Moto We Trust

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02-18-2010, 03:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
TXgolfer Dream Weaver Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Everywhere Posts: 17,594	My favorite is #42 Ohio spends $1 million stimulus dollars on highway signs informing you that the highway work was paid for with stimulus dollars.

02-21-2010, 02:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
DGirl101 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 694 Blog Entries: 1	oh my god..... I almost fell asleep reading all that. Why am I sharing air with those people?

02-21-2010, 09:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
rockdrummer Guest Posts: n/a	This is exactly why I am apathetic to the whole process. They are going to spend on whatever they want to without any input from the people other than congress. They are all a bunch of ****ing crooks!!

02-21-2010, 05:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,514	I buy Silver Eagles whenever I can. One can barter with them when the dollar crashes. shrugs

02-21-2010, 05:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
Rampratt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Casa Grande Arizona Posts: 149	Know it will never happen but can see what needs to happen. First get rid of all the incumbents and when you do give them a retirement like most of the rest of us get, a percentage of salary based on number of years worked etc. Next they need to start over and get rid of about 99.99% of current laws. Start out with constitution and ten commandments Then MOST importantly, all elected officials and law makers should have to live under the exact same laws they pass for the rest of us. When we have so many out of jobs and they still give themselves increases in pay? That is our money they are spending! No that is not correct, it is our childrens and grand childrens money. Ours has been spent a long time ago.

02-21-2010, 05:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,514	Ask the Federal Reserve Board to explain it. Oh wait. It is privately owned with no auditing or accountability.