Should the USA submit to Copenhagen treaty? - Page 2

Jiro · 10-28-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

What do you consider a "major news source?"

big namers like CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, <cough> Fox News, BBC, etc.

Reba · 10-28-2009, 06:35 PM

CNN
"On Tuesday, more than 100 world leaders gathered at the United Nations for a climate summit. They were called together by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to build momentum for the U.N. climate talks in Copenhagen, Denmark, this December."

Commentary: Real progress on climate change - CNN.com

MSNBC

"The Copenhagen talks in December are looming and little real negotiating time is left "to resolve some of the most complex issues," the U.N. secretary general told the World Climate Conference. "We need rapid progress.""

U.N. chief: Rapid progress needed on climate - Climate Change- msnbc.com

"Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the leading sponsor of the Democrats' climate bill, said U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Monday and said it was urgent for the United States to show "some movement in the Senate" on restricting greenhouse gases ahead of the upcoming talks in Copenhagen."

Senate hearing kicks off climate bill - Capitol Hill- msnbc.com

"The new accord is due to be concluded at a U.N. conference in Copenhagen, Denmark, in December, which begins — according to the digital countdown — 242 days, 12 hours some minutes and seconds after the talks in Bonn adjourned Wednesday night.

Haggling over every detail and concept, the U.N. talks are drawing the general outline of a Copenhagen agreement. But they have made little headway on the core issues: fixing mandatory emission reduction targets for industrial countries, setting objectives for developing countries to rein in their own rapidly expanding emissions, and raising some $100 billion a year to help poor countries adjust to changing climate conditions."

Obama seeks to shift climate talks - Climate Change- msnbc.com

NY Times

"With the clock running out and deep differences unresolved, it now appears that there is little chance that international climate change negotiations in Copenhagen in December will produce a comprehensive and binding new treaty on global warming."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/21/sc...meeting&st=cse

BBC

* News - Science & Environment - Harrabin's Notes: China's vulnerability . Last updated: 19 Oct 2009

But his controversial remarks have handed ammunition to China's rivals in the forthcoming Copenhagen climate talks. China's intensity target will be a major bargaining chip at Copenhagen.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8311223.stm

More results from "News - Science & Environment"
# News - Scotland - Getting a seat at the top table . Last updated: 1 Oct 2009

BBC Scotland's Glenn Campbell on the row over Scottish representation at the Copenhagen climate talks.. Scottish ministers will be fully represented at Copenhagen by Ed Miliband."

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8285710.stm
# News - Asia-Pacific - Full text: Leaders' statement on climate . Last updated: 9 Jul 2008

The G8 leaders from eight emerging nations agree a "shared vision" on climate change - but disagree on specifics.. Climate change is one of the great global challenges of our time.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7496850.stm
# BBC World Service - News - China pledges climate change action

The move has prompted hopes that a global climate deal could be reached at the Copenhagen climate conference in December. Is it possible to cut emissions and meet energy needs?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/ne...te_wt_sl.shtml
# Monday 19 October 2009

It is 49 days now to the crucial Copenhagen climate summit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight...ober_2009.html

FOX

"UNITED NATIONS — Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Wednesday that China's leaders have assured him they want to seal a deal on a new U.N. climate treaty at a conference in Copenhagen, Denmark in December."

United Nations Chief Says China Wants Climate Deal - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

"With weeks remaining before 192 nations gather in Copenhagen, Denmark to negotiate a new global treaty to slow climate change, time is running out for the Senate to bridge the differences and pass a climate bill this year."

Obama Administration Seeks Climate Change Action - Political News - FOXNews.com

Reba · 10-28-2009, 06:35 PM

duplicate post

Jiro · 10-28-2009, 06:43 PM

right. that's what I see in news but nothing about sovereignty or whatsoever as mentioned in your first post.

Tousi · 10-28-2009, 06:47 PM

Wow, Reba, lots of references! We need to be ever-vigilant! I hope our leaders will do the right thing.

Reba · 10-28-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

right. that's what I see in news but nothing about sovereignty or whatsoever as mentioned in your first post.

Did you read the official COP 15 website links? That's where the details are.

Reba · 10-28-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

Wow, Reba, lots of references! We need to be ever-vigilant! I hope our leaders will do the right thing.

So far, so good. It looks like Obama isn't going to attend the meeting after all, and Congress isn't in a hurry to support the treaty. It looks like we got a reprieve for the time being.

Jiro · 10-28-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

Did you read the official COP 15 website links? That's where the details are.

yea. typical of them (not America) to come up with such ludicrous idea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

So far, so good. It looks like Obama isn't going to attend the meeting after all, and Congress isn't in a hurry to support the treaty. It looks like we got a reprieve for the time being.

cuz we have common sense after all. shame on them for expecting us to pick up the tab

I wasn't even concerned in the first place because I know we're not gonna sign up for this farce.

they need to carry their own weight first before they stick their hands out for $$$

khar59 · 10-28-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by flip

What's frightening, the speaker in the first reba post or the threaty?

Is the speaker OK or not, when claiming that greenpeace, taken over by communists, have a secret agenda to create a world communist goverment

He also says that there is "no problem with climate..".

But great to see stuff like this subtitled, thanks for that one Reba!

Oh my goodness

Honestly, I haven't looked at it, but guess it can only be for Americans who are afraid of the boogey man! I mean, seriously now, communism???

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Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 20,786	CNN "On Tuesday, more than 100 world leaders gathered at the United Nations for a climate summit. They were called together by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to build momentum for the U.N. climate talks in Copenhagen, Denmark, this December." Commentary: Real progress on climate change - CNN.com MSNBC "The Copenhagen talks in December are looming and little real negotiating time is left "to resolve some of the most complex issues," the U.N. secretary general told the World Climate Conference. "We need rapid progress."" U.N. chief: Rapid progress needed on climate - Climate Change- msnbc.com "Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the leading sponsor of the Democrats' climate bill, said U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Monday and said it was urgent for the United States to show "some movement in the Senate" on restricting greenhouse gases ahead of the upcoming talks in Copenhagen." Senate hearing kicks off climate bill - Capitol Hill- msnbc.com "The new accord is due to be concluded at a U.N. conference in Copenhagen, Denmark, in December, which begins — according to the digital countdown — 242 days, 12 hours some minutes and seconds after the talks in Bonn adjourned Wednesday night. Haggling over every detail and concept, the U.N. talks are drawing the general outline of a Copenhagen agreement. But they have made little headway on the core issues: fixing mandatory emission reduction targets for industrial countries, setting objectives for developing countries to rein in their own rapidly expanding emissions, and raising some $100 billion a year to help poor countries adjust to changing climate conditions." Obama seeks to shift climate talks - Climate Change- msnbc.com NY Times "With the clock running out and deep differences unresolved, it now appears that there is little chance that international climate change negotiations in Copenhagen in December will produce a comprehensive and binding new treaty on global warming." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/21/sc...meeting&st=cse BBC * News - Science & Environment - Harrabin's Notes: China's vulnerability . Last updated: 19 Oct 2009 But his controversial remarks have handed ammunition to China's rivals in the forthcoming Copenhagen climate talks. China's intensity target will be a major bargaining chip at Copenhagen. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8311223.stm More results from "News - Science & Environment" # News - Scotland - Getting a seat at the top table . Last updated: 1 Oct 2009 BBC Scotland's Glenn Campbell on the row over Scottish representation at the Copenhagen climate talks.. Scottish ministers will be fully represented at Copenhagen by Ed Miliband." news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8285710.stm # News - Asia-Pacific - Full text: Leaders' statement on climate . Last updated: 9 Jul 2008 The G8 leaders from eight emerging nations agree a "shared vision" on climate change - but disagree on specifics.. Climate change is one of the great global challenges of our time. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7496850.stm # BBC World Service - News - China pledges climate change action The move has prompted hopes that a global climate deal could be reached at the Copenhagen climate conference in December. Is it possible to cut emissions and meet energy needs? http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/ne...te_wt_sl.shtml # Monday 19 October 2009 It is 49 days now to the crucial Copenhagen climate summit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight...ober_2009.html FOX "UNITED NATIONS — Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Wednesday that China's leaders have assured him they want to seal a deal on a new U.N. climate treaty at a conference in Copenhagen, Denmark in December." United Nations Chief Says China Wants Climate Deal - International News \| News of the World \| Middle East News \| Europe News - FOXNews.com "With weeks remaining before 192 nations gather in Copenhagen, Denmark to negotiate a new global treaty to slow climate change, time is running out for the Senate to bridge the differences and pass a climate bill this year." Obama Administration Seeks Climate Change Action - Political News - FOXNews.com

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,572	Wow, Reba, lots of references! We need to be ever-vigilant! I hope our leaders will do the right thing.