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Old 10-24-2009, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This woman is addicted to abortion just because it gives her the "power."

Irene Vilar, Abortion Addict Speaks

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Old 10-24-2009, 06:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That's horrible! I mean if at one given time it's needed OK but to keep doing it is sick and twisted. She should HAVE to get her tubes tied or needs serious medical attention.
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This woman has mental health issues. She needs treatment.
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How do we know that she's telling the truth? She obviously has a need for attention and publicity. This could be another Ballon-Boy kind of thing.
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How do we know that she's telling the truth? She obviously has a need for attention and publicity. This could be another Ballon-Boy kind of thing.
Exactly. Either way, she would benefit from mental health care.
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Considering what she has been through, I can understand why she has mental issues.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Since it's legal why would this be a problem for a woman who get pregnant on purpose and have a abortion each time? Legal is legal, no? Now, people are trying to draw a line here that this kind of an abortion pathway is unacceptable? Am I in an alternate universe or what? So what if there is a few more dead babies out of the millions of abortions? According to some people what she's doing isn't hurting anyone (except, of course, for the little guy in the womb).
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Wow... that's kinda of scary and it's so sad... I don't know if she is actually telling the truth. I just read some comments and I agreed one of comments:

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This disgusts me. I am absolutely pro-choice, but it horrifies me that a woman could have FIFTEEN abortions and justify it later on by discussing her troubled childhood and psychological issues. I'm sorry, but that's not an excuse. Mistakes happen, and I know that women who've been through abortions need support. But if someone is getting pregnant again and again just to make a point and "rebel" - that is simply perplexing. I don't care how messed up someone's childhood is; ultimately, everyone is responsible for their own actions.

It is brave of this woman to come out and talk about this, but I'm not sure why she needs to share this story. It doesn't make her seem like a sympathetic figure. There are millions of people in the world who have had disturbing childhoods, but not all of them make choices like this. Fifteen abortions? That is simply repulsive.
I really hope no one buys this book. But, that being said, I hope that by writing her story, the author has found some healing and peace, and has been able to deal with her past.

Read more at: Irene Vilar, Abortion Addict Speaks
Also, I strongly agreed with the same comment: "I hope that by writing her story, the author has found some healing and peace, and has been able to deal with her past."

Yes, I think she needs some help and find a heal for herself. I hope she can find a support for her, as soon as possible. I, personally, feel sad for her aborted unborn babies.....
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I knew this deaf woman that had over 5....she even asked me once if I would take her to the clinic to have an abortion, and I refused. Our friendship fizzled after that. As far as her having mental issues, I don't know. She never even knew who the father was of these babies.

She was a very pretty woman, but easily taken advantage of.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's disgusting. Another reason why abortion should be disallowed unless there are extraordinary circumstances (rape, woman being harmed during birth, incest, child molestation, child could spend their life eating through a tube, etc.)
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By making abortion illegal wouldnt have solved this woman's issues. This woman needs help.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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By making abortion illegal wouldnt have solved this woman's issues. This woman needs help.
While this is true, it wouldn't have needlessly killed completely healthy unborn babies.
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While this is true, it wouldn't have needlessly killed completely healthy unborn babies.
When there is a will, there is a way. Back alley abortions could still happen.
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She has serious mental issues, similar to the "stud" in Tennessee with 21 kids by age 29. I don't feel I have the right to pick a side on abortion rights, since I'm a guy. This case goes beyond normal rights to choose. I think she needs to be removed from the breeding pool. Ugh...
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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She has serious mental issues, similar to the "stud" in Tennessee with 21 kids by age 29. I don't feel I have the right to pick a side on abortion rights, since I'm a guy. This case goes beyond normal rights to choose. I think she needs to be removed from the breeding pool. Ugh...
As long as she keeps having abortion, there's no breeding pool.
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As long as she keeps having abortion, there's no breeding pool.
They need to install a wire brush or something in her vagina, to discourage the donors.
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They need to install a wire brush or something in her vagina, to discourage the donors.
...That "wire brush" is still hanging on the wall!
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Considering what she has been through, I can understand why she has mental issues.
That is the whole point. How do we know that her story is the truth? And if she is using abortion as a control, then she had issues prior to ever having that first abortion.

That is like saying someone who cuts has issues because razor blades are available. The issues are present even if razor blades are not available. The same with someone that uses a medical procedure as a form of control.
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That's disgusting. Another reason why abortion should be disallowed unless there are extraordinary circumstances (rape, woman being harmed during birth, incest, child molestation, child could spend their life eating through a tube, etc.)
You cannot deny all women the availability of a medical procedure simply because one disturbed woman abused the right. And if abortions were illegal, she no doubt would have found a back alley abortionist to do her deed, or worse yet, attempted self abortion by using a knitting needle.

The focus of the story is that this is a report about a mentally ill woman who has abused an elective medical procedure, and the fact that her mental health issues have not been addressed during the entire time. More than about abortion, it is about a woman that has not received proper care for her mental health issues.
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Since it's legal why would this be a problem for a woman who get pregnant on purpose and have a abortion each time? Legal is legal, no? Now, people are trying to draw a line here that this kind of an abortion pathway is unacceptable? Am I in an alternate universe or what? So what if there is a few more dead babies out of the millions of abortions? According to some people what she's doing isn't hurting anyone (except, of course, for the little guy in the womb).
Can you say pathological behavior?

And to answer your question: "Yes, you are in an alternate universe."
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Actually, this is a repost....I posted the story on Sept. 22.Abortion Addict Admits to Multiple Abortions, Suicide Attempts

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Repeat Abortions Baffle Experts, as Author Irene Vilar Explores Her 'Impossible Motherhood'

Irene Vilar worries that her self-described "abortion addiction" will be misunderstood, twisted by the pro-life movement to deny women the right to choose.

Her book, "Impossible Motherhood," which will be released by Other Press on Oct. 6, chronicles her own dark choices: 15 abortions in 16 years, much of it as a married woman.

As press on the book has begun to leak out, Vilar -- a literary agent and editor --- says she has already sensed "an inkling of hatred."

Vilar has scheduled only closed-door interviews and will not do a book tour. At the urging of her husband, they have made sure all public property records do not reflect her name, so she cannot be targeted at their home.

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"I am worried about my safety and the hate mail," she told ABCNews.com in a telephone interview as her home-schooled children were at work on a painting project.

"No book like this has ever been written," she told ABCNews.com. "I just imagine the 'baby killer' and I could be a poster child for that kind of fundamentalism. And there are my little kids in all of that."

Read an excerpt from "Impossible Motherhood."

Today, at 40, the Latina author has two young children, but her troubled past continues to haunt her well into motherhood.

She grew up in the shadow of her notorious grandmother Puerto Rican nationalist Lolita Lebron, who stormed the Capitol steps with a gun in 1954. Lebron served 25 years in jail for the crime until receiving a pardon from President Carter in 1979.

Her mother committed suicide by throwing herself from a moving car when Vilar was 8 and two of her brothers were heroin addicts.

Mass Sterilization in Puerto Rico
Vilar's story is set against the backdrop of the American-led mass sterilization program in her native Puerto Rico from 1955 to 1969, a fitting symbol for her struggle with her own reproduction.

By 1974, 37 percent of all Puerto Rican women of childbearing age had been permanently sterilized in that experiment.

"Women tend to repeat behaviors," Vilar said of herself. Her mother's forced hysterectomy without hormone treatment at the age of 33, led to depression and a Valium addition.

Vilar attended boarding school in New Hampshire and was just 15 when she left for Syracuse University, where she fell in love and later married her first husband, a tyrannical 50-year-old professor.

With a predilection for young women, he bragged that his relationships had never lasted more than five years and that having children killed sexual desire.

She says their emotionally dependent relationship was riddled with shame, self-mutilation and several suicide attempts.

1 in 2 Who Have First Abortion, Have Repeat
Although her personal history is unique, Vilar hopes through her painful memoir to trigger a public discussion on abortion and what leads women -- even after the feminist movement -- to use "procreation as power."

"Everybody is having babies, Hollywood has even developed some sort of motherhood fetish," said Vilar. "Yet, women are repeatedly told that they must be everything but mothers, everything but someone weighed down by motherhood."

About half of all pregnancies in the U.S. are unintended, and 40 percent of these are terminated by abortion -- 854,122 in 2002, the latest year for which data is available, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

An estimated 50 percent of women who seek one abortion, will have a repeat one, according to the Guttmacher Institute, which promotes sexual and reproductive health. About 10 percent of those women will have three or more.

Its 2006 report found that most of these women were over age 30 and using contraception at the time of conception.

Little is known about these women, although they may be "perceived as having difficulty practicing contraception," or using abortion as a method of family planning, according to the report.

Mental Problems Not Tied to Abortion

"A lot of times the circumstances are unusual and complicated," said Rachel K. Jones, a senior research associate who co-authored the report. "There's always a lot more going on than someone who does not want to use contraception."

An American Psychological Association task force concluded that mental health problems are "not a direct result" of choosing to have one abortion.

But the 2008 report did note that many "confounding factors might indicate mental problems" in women who have repeat abortions.

"The research is not really great," said APA spokesman Kim Mills. "It's very hard to tease out."

Vilar's pregnancies became compulsively self-destructive: After her 9th and 10th abortions, she "needed another self-injury to get the high."

"In the beginning I was taking pills and I'd skip a day or two or give up one month," she said. "I'd think I'll be better next time. But slowly, my days took on a balancing act and there was a specific high. I would get my period and be sad, then discover I was pregnant, being afraid, yet also so excited."

Vilar said many women who have repeat abortions show a certain "recklessness."

Such was the case with Mary, a Florida college student who did not want to use her real name, who had her first abortion in 2006 when she was 21.

"It didn't seem like the right choice to have a baby then," she told ABCNews.com. But she got pregnant again with the same boyfriend a month later and without telling him, aborted.

"I felt it wasn't something I wanted to go through again, that I wanted to be more careful," said Mary. "It's a physically painful thing to do -- not something I'd ever want to use as a form of birth control. Who wants to go through that pain to end the lives of potential children?"

But at 24 with a new boyfriend, she got pregnant again and fantasized about motherhood, but he didn't want the baby.

"I felt like we were committing murder, that I was killing something that I wanted," said Mary. "I felt like I should feel the pain. I wanted to physically suffer."

After three abortions, she was left with lingering health problems and her doctor suggested she might not have a child again.

"When I was 21, it seemed easier," she said. "It was. It has a lot to do with my mental state about the situation. It feels like there is no healing for this."

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There you go. Even the woman herself did not want this twisted into an anti-abortion issue. It is about mental health issues.
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It's sad to read, that she feels the need to use abortion as a method of self-injury. I agree with Jillio, it's not about contraception or access to abortion but mental health.

I've had my own mental health issues and eating problems for a long time, and this part really speaks to me:

"I'd think I'll be better next time. But slowly, my days took on a balancing act and there was a specific high."

I hope she realises she needs mental health help, and asks for it.
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So, abortion in of itself can be seen as a mental health issue? Again, abortion procedures are legal. Is there a limit now per person?
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Not abortion per se but the fact that she missed pills on purpose, to get pregnant, to have an abortion.
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Why would it be a problem? Abortion is legal. Is there a limit on how many one can have an abortion??
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So, abortion in of itself can be seen as a mental health issue? Again, abortion procedures are legal. Is there a limit now per person?
Abortion itself is not the underlying issue in this case.
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When there is a will, there is a way. Back alley abortions could still happen.
I am told back alley abortions do still happen. When a woman I know accidently carried the baby past the time she could legally abort (evidently she did not realize how far along she was) she says she was told "It can still be done."

She told me she chose to keep the baby rather than risk an unlicensed person using unsanitary tools doing who knew what to her innards.

I guess abortions, like drugs and other illegal things: As long as there is a buyer there will be a seller.
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I knew this deaf woman that had over 5....she even asked me once if I would take her to the clinic to have an abortion, and I refused. Our friendship fizzled after that. As far as her having mental issues, I don't know. She never even knew who the father was of these babies.

She was a very pretty woman, but easily taken advantage of.
I wondered if that's the same deaf person we both know? I also know a deaf woman who had several abortions, and she says she'll do it again if she gets pregnant again.
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