Whoa!! Impeach Obama already...??

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Boy, that was fast. Already?? Well, the idea has already been cast. Now, we wait and watch and see how this will transpire.

Had Bush appointed thirty-one czars outside the normal Congressional approval system the MSM would have been all over it like the proverbial wet suit, declaring a coup d’etat in the making. But, as of now, the MSM has imposed omerta. It is Labor Day weekend. We shall see what happens next week.

“The president should suspend any future appointment of so called czars while the administration and the Congress carefully examines the background and qualifications of the more than 30 individuals who’ve been appointed to these czar positions,” said Pence, speaking to reporters. “And the Congress ought to initiate a thorough inquiry into the constitutionality of this practice which has spanned Republican and Democrat administrations.”

Roger L. Simon Is Obama’s “Czar System” grounds for impeachment?
 
So if the Republicans don't like having a Democrat in the House, they can just impeach him. Wow.
 
"Somewhere, over the rainbow....":lol:
 
I just looked up that song and read the transcript. All to apt :lol:

Yeppers. They left Kansas some time ago! I believe they decided to stay for awhile in the opium poppy field.:giggle:
 
Rather it has been 6 months in and Obama is making a mess of things, avoiding Constitional requirements for appointments and such. I'm thinking somebody is goinng to request an investigation of some sort sooner rather than later.
 
They're concerned with such rapidity and speed on the czar appointments in such a short period of time. Obama with 33/34 in 6 months versus Bush with 36 czars over an 8 year period. Both had some czars confirmed by the Senate but most have not. And this has raised concerns and people are now questioning whether this is a constitutional issue if a president appoints a czar without a Senate confirmation.
 
Eric Cantor Should Shut Up About Czars
Cantor (R-Va.) never seemed especially concerned about czars before, but he seems awfully worked up about the issue now.

CANTOR'S CZAR PROBLEM.... During the Bush/Cheney years, the White House created new czars for almost every conceivable policy challenge. In the span of about six years, Rove's White House oversaw the creation of a "food safety czar," a "cybersecurity czar," a "regulatory czar," an "AIDS czar," a "manufacturing czar," an "intelligence czar," a "bird-flu czar," and a "Katrina czar." It was such a common strategy for Bush, Rove, and the gang, that it quickly became the butt of jokes. Newsweek satirist Andy Borowitz suggested in 2007 that the White House needed a "lying czar" to "oversee all distortions and misrepresentations."

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) never seemed especially concerned about czars before, but he, like much of the GOP establishment, seems awfully worked up about the issue now. Consider Cantor's Washington Post op-ed Thursday:

By appointing a virtual army of "czars" -- each wholly unaccountable to Congress yet tasked with spearheading major policy efforts for the White House -- in his first six months, the president has embarked on an end-run around the legislative branch of historic proportions.

To be sure, the appointment of a few special officers to play a constructive role in a given administration is nothing new. What is new is the elevation of so many czars, with so much authority on endless policy fronts. Vesting such broad authority in the hands of people not subjected to Senate confirmation and congressional oversight poses a grave threat to our system of checks and balances.


What's curious about this is how demonstrably wrong it is. These aren't off-the-cuff comments Cantor made in an interview; this is an argument written for publication, presumably subjected to some kind of fact-checking process.

And yet, Cantor's argument just isn't true. He points to "at least 32 active czars," which he insists are "unaccountable to Congress" and were "not subjected to Senate confirmation." Specifically, Cantor complains about a "TARP czar," a "technology czar," and the "government performance czar" -- all of whom, in our reality, were vetted by Congress and subjected to Senate confirmation. One of Cantor's 32 was actually a position created by Bush, and another by Clinton.

Moreover, some of these "czars" only deserve the title in the most colloquial sense. In the State Department, for example, the administration has an official who works full time on shaping a policy on the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay. This hardly sounds outrageous, but Cantor has labeled the official a "Guantanamo closure czar." Obama, like all recent presidents, has deputy national security adviser for counter-terrorism. A ha, Cantor says, this is a "terrorism czar" who is part of "a virtual army."

What's more, some of these "czars" are new, but only because they're working in response to new efforts and/or challenges. Previous administrations didn't need a "TARP czar" before, because TARP didn't exist. The "stimulus accountability czar" wasn't needed before there was a stimulus. The "car czar" wasn't needed before the collapse of the American auto industry. These are temporary gigs, not a new, permanent layer of bureaucracy.

I realize Cantor is easily confused. I can also appreciate Cantor's reflexive desire to attack the president relentlessly, without regard for honesty or reality. And while there's a legitimate issue to consider when it comes to a White House reliance on "czars" -- it's created tension between Congresses and White Houses for generations -- Cantor's op-ed is really quite foolish.

Steve Benen's background - Steve Benen is "blogger in chief" of the popular Washington Monthly online blog, Political Animal. His background includes publishing The Carpetbagger Report, and writing for a variety of publications, including Talking Points Memo, The American Prospect, the Huffington Post, and The Guardian. He has also appeared on NPR's "Talk of the Nation," MSNBC's "Rachel Maddow Show," Air America Radio's "Sam Seder Show," and XM Radio's "POTUS '08."
 
A Hint of Deja Vu in Czar Debate
Elizabeth Williamson reports on the White House.

There’s a hint of deja vu in a column by House Republican Whip Rep. Eric Cantor that ran in the Washington Post on July 30.

In the opinion piece, “Obama’s 32 Czars,” the Virginia Republican takes issue with the number of White House special appointees with control over a given policy area. Thing is, a similar critique had appeared less than a month earlier: “Dancing with the Czars,” a July 2 Web site posting by nonpartisan budget watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense, a group Cantor’s office knows well.

Cantor’s article reaches some different conclusions, but states its case in ways that echo the Taxpayers’ column.

Cantor, July 30: “At last count, there were at least 32 active czars that we knew of, meaning the current administration has more czars than Imperial Russia.”

Taxpayers for Common Sense, July 2: “By our count there are at least 31 active czars (see our list here), giving the current administration more Czars than Imperial Russia had in its history.”

There are more…

Cantor: “The administration has a Mideast peace czar (not to be confused with the Mideast policy czar), a Sudan czar and a Guantanamo closure czar. Then there’s the green jobs czar, sometimes in conflict with the energy czar, who talks to the technology czar, who sometimes crosses paths with the urban affairs czar…And seemingly everyone falls under the auspices of the information czar.”

Taxpayers for Common Sense: “We have a Mideast Peace Czar and a Mideast Policy Czar, a Sudan Czar and a Guantanamo Closure Czar. There’s a Green Jobs Czar, a Pay Czar and an Energy Czar, an Urban Affairs Czar, Technology Czar, and even a Great Lakes Czar. Thankfully, there’s also an Information Czar.”

Cantor dislikes the czar structure because they’re not subject to Senate confirmation or congressional oversight. The taxpayers group raised that in its earlier column, too, and objected to adding more taxpayer-funded appointees to tackle jobs that existing personnel should be doing. “It’s always good to see more voices added to the debate. Now the challenge will be to actually tackle some of the big hairy issues these Czars are supposed to be overseeing,” Taxpayers for Common Sense Vice President Steve Ellis, who wrote the column, said in an emailed statement.

Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring says: “I don’t believe that anyone involved in the collaborative effort, including Mr. Cantor, had seen the Taxpayers post…it’s not really a surprise that two different people with similar concerns opined on the subject and reached similar conclusions.”
 
This is dumb. Surely we need to be watchful and vigilant, but especially in this day and age, it's nearly impossible for the president to not create some legal and constitutional controversies in carrying out his duties. That doesn't mean we should accept illegalities and unconstitutionalities. It just means we should hammer him for them, not impeach him.

In my opinion, impeachment should not be used for cases where the president is trying to do his job, except in very extreme cases. I think it should just be used for abusing the office for personal gain or criminal actions.
 
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