Japan warns that North Korea may fire missile at U.S. on Independence Day - Page 2

netrox · 06-20-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

This whole thing is crazy. I am sure it is a true threat. I feel instead of waiting for them to attack. They need to hunt down Kim Jong II, like they did with Saddam Husein.

Oh gee, tell that to Bush who have known for years that he's a threat and was building nulear weapons. Kim has threatened us with attacks many times. Saddam has NEVER threatened to attack US.

kokonut · 06-20-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by netrox

Oh gee, tell that to Bush who have known for years that he's a threat and was building nulear weapons. Kim has threatened us with attacks many times. Saddam has NEVER threatened to attack US.

Yet, Saddam attacked and invaded Kuwait which started the whole Iraq war thing. Kuwait was the one who requested international help to fight Saddam and his army back into Bagdad. It was a crazy attempt that set the stage on just how dangerous Saddam was and the need to put a reign on him. Of course, 17 UN Resolutions didn't do squat to keep him to his words.

And so, we have another crazy loon dictator whose actions are becoming more dangerous and reckless each year. This time, this is a country that literally has nothing to lose and everything to gain by going to war.

Babyblue · 06-20-2009, 01:07 PM

Well I do wonder how this will play out. With Obama being the President. I sure hope he does the right thing. Protecting America.

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I get nervous cuz I am close to DC. It doesnt help that my hubby works at the Pentagon. GRRR!

They don't have technology to accurately send the ICBM to right target lol

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by netrox

Oh gee, tell that to Bush who have known for years that he's a threat and was building nulear weapons. Kim has threatened us with attacks many times. Saddam has NEVER threatened to attack US.

that's what intervention is for. You don't just sit and wait for worst to happen. we prevent that from becoming the worst.

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightblade08

Where is Superman when we need him?!

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

They have already sent anti-missile warships and a huge radar equipment to Hawaii.

The Associated Press: Officials: Hawaii anti-missile move is prudent

it doesn't work shit effectively. it's just a "show of force" and that's ok. NK firing missile tests now and then is their show of force as well. We simply respond by sending additional troops, ships, and exportation of shield defense technology.

it's simply a mind-f**k game

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Then eliminate him ( Kim Jong II ) and even his sons who are trained ( brainwashed ) through their father. Their last name doesn't need to carry its generation. It should end just right there! I am tired of seein' innocent people suffer. It's time to stop.

but you didn't support Iraq. Why would you support this then?

Royale · 06-20-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I get nervous cuz I am close to DC. It doesnt help that my hubby works at the Pentagon. GRRR!

I share this kind of sentiment with you. I work for DND (Department of National Defense) and we collaborate with one of our closest allies, U.S. I cannot tell you what I am doing there for national security reasons.

**Beowulf** · 06-20-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Yet, Saddam attacked and invaded Kuwait which started the whole Iraq war thing. Kuwait was the one who requested international help to fight Saddam and his army back into Bagdad. It was a crazy attempt that set the stage on just how dangerous Saddam was and the need to put a reign on him. Of course, 17 UN Resolutions didn't do squat to keep him to his words.

And so, we have another crazy loon dictator whose actions are becoming more dangerous and reckless each year. This time, this is a country that literally has nothing to lose and everything to gain by going to war.

But WHY did Saddam attack Kuwait? The article I found is rather revealing...
Iraq from the book The CIAs Greatest Hits by Mark Zepezauer
It says in part, "The whole dispute started because Kuwait was slant-drilling. Using equipment bought from National Security Council chief Brent Scowcroft's old company, Kuwait was pumping out some $14-billion worth of oil from underneath Iraqi territory. Even the territory they were drilling from had been Iraq's. Slant-drilling is enough to get you shot in Texas, and it's certainly enough to start a war in the Mideast."

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 02:43 PM

too much tabloid newspaper

are you fan of The Lone Gunmen?

**Beowulf** · 06-20-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

too much tabloid newspaper

are you fan of The Lone Gunmen?

Nope. I admire Google, though.

Loghead · 06-20-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

but you didn't support Iraq. Why would you support this then?

This is probably because North Korea is a genuine threat. This unstable country (rather unstable leader) admits to having weapons of mass destruction. Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction nor did they claim to have any. This reminds us why Canada did not go to Iraq, thanks to Jean Chretien.

Royale · 06-20-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Loghead

This is probably because North Korea is a genuine threat. This unstable country (rather unstable leader) admits to having weapons of mass destruction. Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction nor did they claim to have any. This reminds us why Canada did not go to Iraq, thanks to Jean Chretien.

Actually Mr. Chretien made a decision based on a recommendation by the Canadian Forces who conducted a report on whether or not it is necessary to join the Coalition forces for the invasion of Iraq. The report proved how exactly it had happened in Iraq in first few years of the post-invasion.

Loghead · 06-20-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Actually Mr. Chretien made a decision based on a recommendation by the Canadian Forces who conducted a report on whether or not it is necessary to join the Coalition forces for the invasion of Iraq. The report proved how exactly it had happened in Iraq in first few years of the post-invasion.

Ohhh OK. Then thank you to the Canadian Forces!

kokonut · 06-20-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Loghead

This is probably because North Korea is a genuine threat. This unstable country (rather unstable leader) admits to having weapons of mass destruction. Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction nor did they claim to have any. This reminds us why Canada did not go to Iraq, thanks to Jean Chretien.

He used mustard gas on the Kurds. Secondly, he was never cooperative with the inspectors giving them the impression that he had WMDs by hiding or moving them around. It certainly does not help if the coalition were uncovering items like finding a fighter jet buried under sand (see AWC Pictures ), a pratice not unknown of Saddam to do those things. He simply played a dangerous cat and mouse game, and he ultimately lost that game. Thirdly, if the U.N. is unwilling to enforce any of the 17 Resolutions to try and get Saddam to comply, then they should not be in the business of handing out worthless ultimatums if they don't have the means and the will to enforce it. It took a coalition to finally go after Saddam and his army the second time around after the first Iraq war when afterwards he violated the signed peace agreement in the first place.

netrox · 06-20-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

And so, we have another crazy loon dictator whose actions are becoming more dangerous and reckless each year. This time, this is a country that literally has nothing to lose and everything to gain by going to war.

Unfortunately, you're right on that one.

**Beowulf** · 06-20-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

He used mustard gas on the Kurds. Secondly, he was never cooperative with the inspectors giving them the impression that he had WMDs by hiding or moving them around. It certainly does not help if the coalition were uncovering items like finding a fighter jet buried under sand (see AWC Pictures ), a pratice not unknown of Saddam to do those things. He simply played a dangerous cat and mouse game, and he ultimately lost that game. Thirdly, if the U.N. is unwilling to enforce any of the 17 Resolutions to try and get Saddam to comply, then they should not be in the business of handing out worthless ultimatums if they don't have the means and the will to enforce it. It took a coalition to finally go after Saddam and his army the second time around after the first Iraq war when afterwards he violated the signed peace agreement in the first place.

Is that a fact?
Did Saddam Hussein Gas His Own People?

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Nope. I admire Google, though.

you might wanna check on the authenticity of the source first.

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Is that a fact?
Did Saddam Hussein Gas His Own People?

like kokonut said - Saddam gassed kurds, not just Iraqis.

**Jiro** · 06-20-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Loghead

This is probably because North Korea is a genuine threat. This unstable country (rather unstable leader) admits to having weapons of mass destruction. Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction nor did they claim to have any. This reminds us why Canada did not go to Iraq, thanks to Jean Chretien.

but NK hasn't attacked ANY nation. All it did is testing the weapons like everybody else.

(by your logic)

kokonut · 06-20-2009, 06:36 PM

Seems so.
THREATS AND RESPONSES: THE KURDS; Still Suffering From '88 Gas Attack, a Village Distrusts Iraq's Arms Report - The New York Times

Remember ->Chemical<- Ali?
Kurds tell of gas attack that began Saddam 'genocide' - Times Online

**Reba** · 06-21-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

I meant "Let's hope cool heads prevail." I hope you still agree with that.

lol

I figured that's what you meant.

Typos happen.

Grummer · 06-21-2009, 06:01 PM

I wouldnt be surprised if NK (kim jong the fat doorknob) is doing this on behalf of China

webexplorer · 06-21-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

I share this kind of sentiment with you. I work for DND (Department of National Defense) and we collaborate with one of our closest allies, U.S. I cannot tell you what I am doing there for national security reasons.

Yes I know the answer. There are many brand-new banana missiles on the base so that the NK army would slip off from the banana's peels and hit a wrong red button that would nuke its own country. That would save us a lot of money!

**Reba** · 06-21-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Oh really????? Now Japanese is warning USA? I thought Japan doesn't like the US because of what they done to them in WW II.

They got over that. We are now the market for Japanese products and supplier for their raw materials. Also, because of the Status of Forces agreement after WWII, we are responsible for their defense should NK attack them.

Japan hates NK, not the USA. Japan has more to fear from NK than from the USA.

It benefits Japan to warn the USA.

**Reba** · 06-21-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I get nervous cuz I am close to DC. It doesnt help that my hubby works at the Pentagon. GRRR!

Current technology missiles of NK can't reach DC.

Hawaii or Alaska, maybe.

***Calvin*** · 06-21-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Oh really????? Now Japanese is warning USA? I thought Japan doesn't like the US because of what they done to them in WW II.

The Japanese became pacifist after WWII after they realized the previous power were doing all the evil things. They do not want to go through this again. General McArthur stayed there to help Japanese in the postwar period and they made agreement that they will not fight like this again.

Japanese history: Postwar

Douglas MacArthur - Postwar Japan

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MacArthur and his GHQ staff helped a devastated Japan rebuild itself, institute a democratic government, and chart a course that made Japan one of the world's leading industrial powers. The U.S. was firmly in control of Japan to oversee its reconstruction, and MacArthur was effectively the interim leader of Japan from 1945 until 1948. In 1946, MacArthur's staff drafted a new constitution that renounced war and reduced the emperor to a figurehead; this constitution remains in use in Japan to this day. He also pushed the Japanese Diet into adopting a decentralization plan to break apart the large Japanese companies (zaibatsu) and foster the first Japanese labor unions.

**Liebling:-)))** · 06-21-2009, 11:00 PM

If Japan´s warn is true then the USA has the right to defend their country against North Korea.

for warning, Japan.

**Liebling:-)))** · 06-21-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Loghead

This is probably because North Korea is a genuine threat. This unstable country (rather unstable leader) admits to having weapons of mass destruction. Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction nor did they claim to have any. This reminds us why Canada did not go to Iraq, thanks to Jean Chretien.

Yes, that´s right.

Germany and France didn´t join Iraq war, too.

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Secondly, he was never cooperative with the inspectors giving them the impression that he had WMDs by hiding or moving them around.

Bush, Cheney admit Iraq had no WMD, take new tack

Bush, Cheney admit Iraq had no WMD, take new tack | The San Diego Union-Tribune

Inspector: Iraq had no WMD before invasion
Final report says Saddam had ambitions but no chem or bio arms
Inspector says Iraq had no WMD - Conflict in Iraq- msnbc.com

Fact: Saddam was no threat to the USA and the world.

Colin Powell urged Bush to not go Iraq war.

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Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,826	I wouldnt be surprised if NK (kim jong the fat doorknob) is doing this on behalf of China __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

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Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12,034	Well I do wonder how this will play out. With Obama being the President. I sure hope he does the right thing. Protecting America.

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kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Seems so. THREATS AND RESPONSES: THE KURDS; Still Suffering From '88 Gas Attack, a Village Distrusts Iraq's Arms Report - The New York Times Remember ->Chemical<- Ali? Kurds tell of gas attack that began Saddam 'genocide' - Times Online