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Unread 03-09-2009, 11:31 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Maria, here you go:

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nobody knows exactly. it's highly classified. one can say it's a headquarter full of nerds. IMO - I believe it's just a small team of genius of different specialty/background for specific agenda. I don't know. I'm hoping Reba can shed some light in this.
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Unread 03-09-2009, 11:31 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Well, I still don't get it after I read. Care to speak in English for me ?
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Well, I still don't get it after I read. Care to speak in English for me ?
see my post #31. does it help?
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see my post #31. does it help?
Alright. I will wait for Reba to shed some light.
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Okay, it is in the article from where I was readin' in a week ago. I am goin' to copy and paste the article here to show you. I will highlight with bold fonts about US and China. Not just the bold fonts, you can read the whole article as well.
thanks for link. I don't know about you but.... when I looked at the NewsWithViews site - it looks...... fake. I mean... what kind of news site is loaded with advertisements like depression & back pain medication... credit card debt... etc.

I'd recommend you to read Politico. It's a well-reputable political blog site written by independents.
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thanks for link. I don't know about you but.... when I looked at the NewsWithViews site - it looks...... fake. I mean... what kind of news site is loaded with advertisements like depression & back pain medication... credit card debt... etc.

Well, not to me - because, of National Headlines news are in there. Never mind about loaded with advertisements.

I'd recommend you to read Politico. It's a well-reputable political blog site written by independents.
Thanks for the link. I will look up into it.
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Well, not to me - because, of National Headlines news are in there. Never mind about loaded with advertisements.
yes but they twisted it to their way to scare people. it's almost as if they were Rush Limbaugh's pupils unfortunately - this tactic is incredibly effective and simple. the best way to win is to confuse the people by speaking it in their simple language... which leads to even more confusion.

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Anyone can break down under a decent amount of stress regardless of age.
If Obama is breaking down after only a few weeks into his term will he be on the verge of hospitalization before his four years are up?

Maybe he bit off more than he can chew.
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If Obama is breaking down after only a few weeks into his term will he be on the verge of hospitalization before his four years are up?

Maybe he bit off more than he can chew.
Well, he didn't do much as a Senator but he wanted the whole enchilada so he's gotta eat it! What did he expect?
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Maybe he bit off more than he can chew.
Let's give Obama a chance. He's only been in office since January 20th. Expecting him to solve a myriad of problems in such a short amount of time is unfair and unrealistic.
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Let's give Obama a chance, shall we? He's only been in office since January 20th. Expecting him to solve a myriad of problems in such a short amount of time is unfair and unrealistic.
we're not expecting him to solve the myriad of problems in short time but he's exhausted already??? first time I've heard of this...
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we're not expecting him to solve the myriad of problems in short time but he's exhausted already??? first time I've heard of this...
I know Reba doesn't want to hear this, but I'll say it again. Obama has 8 years of problems to correct. He may have tried to do too much too soon, but can you blame him? Obama is young, eager and wants to do everything possible to improve America. Maybe he just needs a temporary breather for awhile before tackling more complicated issues. After all, he's human too, right?
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I know Reba doesn't want to hear this, but I'll say it again. Obama has 8 years of problems to correct. He may have tried to do too much too soon, but can you blame him? Obama is young, eager and wants to do everything possible to improve America. Maybe he just needs a temporary breather for awhile before tackling more complicated issues. After all, he's human too, right?
yes but if he's exhausted already this soon... then that's going to be a big problem because 4 years is a very long time. every administration has to fix/reverse/update the previous administration's problem anyway. every administration wants to do everything possible to improve America too. What I hope is that he DELEGATES the tasks to people. All he had to do is read the summary and decide with his best judgment because there are always too many things needed to be done. he does not need to research all the problems and read details for himself. that's what the staff is for. use it. and if he doesn't like the work - he can simply fire them and replace them. or he can tell them to come up with something else. simple as that.
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yes but they twisted it to their way to scare people. it's almost as if they were Rush Limbaugh's pupils unfortunately - this tactic is incredibly effective and simple. the best way to win is to confuse the people by speaking it in their simple language... which leads to even more confusion.

FYI, it ain't scared me. I like to read it. Since you mentioned about " confuse " -- we are livin' in this delusional world nowdays. No body knows the difference in between white and black, only in grey.


let me know how you like it so far
Yea, you link looks fine to me. I read it as well.
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Well, he didn't do much as a Senator but he wanted the whole enchilada so he's gotta eat it! What did he expect?
Heartburn?
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nobody knows exactly. it's highly classified. one can say it's a headquarter full of nerds. IMO - I believe it's just a small team of genius of different specialty/background for specific agenda. I don't know. I'm hoping Reba can shed some light in this.
Here's dictionary.com 's definition:

"a research institute or organization employed to solve complex problems or predict or plan future developments, as in military, political, or social areas."

Does that help?
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That one did sting!

I know Obama only been in Office for a short time.

I just hope he can take some Tums, and suck it up.

He has a long road ahead of him.
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All he had to do is read the summary and decide with his best judgment because there are always too many things needed to be done. he does not need to research all the problems and read details for himself. that's what the staff is for. use it. and if he doesn't like the work - he can simply fire them and replace them. or he can tell them to come up with something else. simple as that.
If it were that simple, the job of being President wouldn't be considered the highest office in the land, would it?

At least Obama won't be taking as many vacations as former President Bush did.
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"a research institute or organization employed to solve complex problems or predict or plan future developments, as in military, political, or social areas."

It's a bunch of guys (men and women) sitting around discussing problems and how to solve them. Each "tank" is usually focused on a particular field. There are think tanks for the military, business, political groups, medicine, science, advertising, etc. They sometimes include research, forecasting, and experimenting.
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If it were that simple, the job of being President wouldn't be considered the highest office in the land, would it?
nobody said it's easy but one can be smart at managing time and delegating the task. it's pretty simple with some basic management 101 for CEO-level. what's not simple is having a refined decision-making skill that's usually acquired from long years of experience and/or age.

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he may have to if he keeps this up.
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I know Reba doesn't want to hear this, but I'll say it again. Obama has 8 years of problems to correct. He may have tried to do too much too soon, but can you blame him? Obama is young, eager and wants to do everything possible to improve America. Maybe he just needs a temporary breather for awhile before tackling more complicated issues. After all, he's human too, right?
It doesn't matter what I want to hear. That fact is, since Obama is President he MUST do the job. He asked for it, and he got it.

What do you mean by "temporary breather?" How long? Do you mean a vacation or do you mean let VP Biden take over?

He may be human but he is also THE President of the United States.
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It doesn't matter what I want to hear. That fact is, since Obama is President he MUST do the job. He asked for it, and he got it.

What do you mean by "temporary breather?" How long? Do you mean a vacation or do you mean let VP Biden take over?

He may be human but he is also THE President of the United States.
...and THE President of the United States can feel stressed just like the rest of us.

As for your question about VP Biden taking over, that's ridiculous and would never happen no matter how exhausted Obama is.

By temporary breather, I'm referring to a 3 day vacation. Nothing major.
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...and THE President of the United States can feel stressed just like the rest of us.
difference between POTUS and rest of us is that his finger is on red button (weapons and nukes.) and he can make irrational order that costs lives. are you up for that?

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As for your question about VP Biden taking over, that's ridiculous and would never happen no matter how exhausted Obama is.

By temporary breather, I'm referring to a 3 day vacation. Nothing major.
technically - it can happen. Dick Cheney was the President for a several hours while Bush underwent routine medical procedure.
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he may have to if he keeps this up.
With as many problems as Obama has to deal with, time management seems to be seriously lacking and for good reason.

Obama hasn't taken a vacation yet, so don't count your chickens before they're hatched. He may have more stamina than you think.
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Let's give Obama a chance. He's only been in office since January 20th. Expecting him to solve a myriad of problems in such a short amount of time is unfair and unrealistic.
The responsibilities of the President can be unfair and unrealistic. Lincoln had the Civil War, FDR had the Great Depression and WWII, Truman had the atomic bomb, JFK had the Cuban Missile Crisis, Reagan was almost assassinated, G.W. Bush had 9/11--none of those things were "fair" or "realistic" to cope with but they did the best they could. The job has never been "easy" for any of our presidents.
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difference between POTUS and rest of us is that his finger is on red button (weapons and nukes.) and he can make irrational order that costs lives. are you up for that?


technically - it can happen. Dick Cheney was the President for a several hours while Bush underwent routine medical procedure.
That's why we have a Defense Secretary.

As for your second point, being President for several hours does not equate to passing over the responsibility of the Presidency to the VP on a permanent basis which is what I believe Reba was alluding to.
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The responsibilities of the President can be unfair and unrealistic...The job has never been "easy" for any of our presidents.
Since that's the case, why don't you look at Obama the same way? After all, he's doing the best he can with what was thrown in his lap.
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That's why we have a Defense Secretary.
Defense Secretary still has to follow President's order and the President is Commander in Chief, not Defense Secretary. Defense Secretary's job is to handle and enforce military affair for President under his order.

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that's not what Reba was alluding to.
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Since that's the case, why don't you look at Obama the same way? After all, he's doing the best he can with what was thrown in his lap.
being exhausted especially THIS early raise a serious concern for me and for many.
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being exhausted especially THIS early raise a serious concern for me and for many.
That does not take away the fact that Obama is human. Give him a break.
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