Funny Thing About Rush Limbaugh - Page 4

Doug5 · 03-09-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

that's why they enacted the law for that. it's called DROWSY DRIVING Law

??? that was not the major reason of illegalizing it.

no...... it's because when you're talking on cellphone - both of your hands are NOT on the wheel at the same time for prolonged period of time. fiddling with radio doesn't take more than a few min. beside - they have radio control buttons on steering wheel.

youre not even seeing the point

Hear Again · 03-09-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

One argument against drug legalization is the potential of people getting hooked on a harmfull substance. 500k people die every year from smoking tobacco. The majority of smokers are addicted. They must smoke daily, several times a day. There are very few casual smokers. And the smoking age is only 18.

The only difference is that smoking doesn't hurt others unless they are exposed to second hand smoke. Someone hallucinating from marijuana, on the other hand, poses a significant danger to others particularly when their judgement is seriously impaired.

**Jiro** · 03-09-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

One argument against drug legalization is the potential of people getting hooked on a harmfull substance. 500k people die every year from smoking tobacco. The majority of smokers are addicted. They must smoke daily, several times a day. There are very few casual smokers. And the smoking age is only 18.

Then there is the argument against legalization because innocent people who arent even consuming the drug could be harmed. Drunk drivers kill thousands every year. Families continue to suffer from the abuse of an alcoholic parent.

To me the whole thing is absurd. How can these arguments against legalization be used when the legal drugs dont even meet those standards?

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

The only difference is that smoking doesn't hurt others unless they are exposed to second hand smoke. Someone hallucinating from marijuana, on the other hand, poses a significant danger to others particularly when their judgement is seriously impaired.

exactly what Hear Again said. beside - you're using confusing term for wrong situation. Prescription drugs are LEGAL. Driving Under Influence (of any substance) is ILLEGAL.

**saywhatkid** · 03-10-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

One argument against drug legalization is the potential of people getting hooked on a harmfull substance. 500k people die every year from smoking tobacco. The majority of smokers are addicted. They must smoke daily, several times a day. There are very few casual smokers. And the smoking age is only 18.

Then there is the argument against legalization because innocent people who arent even consuming the drug could be harmed. Drunk drivers kill thousands every year. Families continue to suffer from the abuse of an alcoholic parent.

To me the whole thing is absurd. How can these arguments against legalization be used when the legal drugs dont even meet those standards?

So your solution would be to add to the problem? I tried anything that was available in the early 1970's that did not require a needle. LSD-check. Marijuana & hashish-check. Speed-check. Barbituarites-check. Cocaine-check. Magic mushrooms-check. Tar opium-check. Angeldust-check. Unknown prescription drugs-check. There might be more, but forgive me if my memory is a bit compromised. Alcohol-check. Tobacco-check.
Have you tried any of this? I happen to shudder at the thought of this list of products being available on demand, over the counter. Sure, people can go find this stuff from the local pusher. But to see Walgreen's having a "buy one get one free" gram of hash sale? My reasons for being against have little to do with driving intoxicated. It becomes a lifestyle. I associated with stoners for much of my life. I speak from experience. I have been among them, part of them, one of them. It has much deeper implications than drunk driving or some guy hooked on ciggies. Many of these things were banned for a reason. Just because they are legal, and perhaps reduced in cost, would that deter someone from "Jonesing"? So many families suffer from alcohol abuse. I watched it myself, in my family. So lets increase the choices? No thanks.

Doug5 · 03-10-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

The only difference is that smoking doesn't hurt others unless they are exposed to second hand smoke. Someone hallucinating from marijuana, on the other hand, poses a significant danger to others particularly when their judgement is seriously impaired.

and drunks never pose a risk to society?

Doug5 · 03-10-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

So your solution would be to add to the problem? I tried anything that was available in the early 1970's that did not require a needle. LSD-check. Marijuana & hashish-check. Speed-check. Barbituarites-check. Cocaine-check. Magic mushrooms-check. Tar opium-check. Angeldust-check. Unknown prescription drugs-check. There might be more, but forgive me if my memory is a bit compromised. Alcohol-check. Tobacco-check.
Have you tried any of this? I happen to shudder at the thought of this list of products being available on demand, over the counter. Sure, people can go find this stuff from the local pusher. But to see Walgreen's having a "buy one get one free" gram of hash sale? My reasons for being against have little to do with driving intoxicated. It becomes a lifestyle. I associated with stoners for much of my life. I speak from experience. I have been among them, part of them, one of them. It has much deeper implications than drunk driving or some guy hooked on ciggies. Many of these things were banned for a reason. Just because they are legal, and perhaps reduced in cost, would that deter someone from "Jonesing"? So many families suffer from alcohol abuse. I watched it myself, in my family. So lets increase the choices? No thanks.

maybe you should voluntarily check yourself into jail for all those criminal acts you committed. or are you above the law?

Doug5 · 03-10-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

exactly what Hear Again said. beside - you're using confusing term for wrong situation. Prescription drugs are LEGAL. Driving Under Influence (of any substance) is ILLEGAL.

again, no one advocating for drug legalization is advocating impaired driving.

**Jiro** · 03-10-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

maybe you should voluntarily check yourself into jail for all those criminal acts you committed. or are you above the law?

maybe you shouldn't pass the judgment so quickly.

**Jiro** · 03-10-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

again, no one advocating for drug legalization is advocating impaired driving.

then what in the world are you advocating for? please do clarify for me so I understand your position.

**saywhatkid** · 03-10-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

maybe you should voluntarily check yourself into jail for all those criminal acts you committed. or are you above the law?

:sure:
Yo, Einstein....I was in my late teens when I did this. This was 35 years ago. You want me to turn myself in? Sounds like you are running out of ammo, so you make a personal attacking comment.

**saywhatkid** · 03-10-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

maybe you shouldn't pass the judgment so quickly.

Thank you. I did not want to resort to name calling. All the religious people would say Judgement Day is coming for me anyway. Heck, if they legalized it, I would be off the hook for my past mistakes.

**saywhatkid** · 03-10-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

Besides being a drug addict and hypocrit, he is a good example why drugs should be legalised. During his addiction, he was able to function and hold down a job. He even lost some weight.

Back to the original topic. He was able to hold down his job, because he could do his job impaired. That tells me anyone can get on a radio, get trashed, and insult half the nation with biased opinions. There are millions that do the same thing as a hobby. You can find them in bars, crack houses, places of this nature. They just don't get paid or have radio transmitters. Glad your opinion is in the very small minority. Maybe you can get Rush to use his powerful influence to start a "Legalize Opiates" campaign. He could use his experience to rebuff the opposition, belittle the people with horror stories about their own experiences, etc.

Doug5 · 03-10-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

:sure:
Yo, Einstein....I was in my late teens when I did this. This was 35 years ago. You want me to turn myself in? Sounds like you are running out of ammo, so you make a personal attacking comment.

Ive already posted, I am against putting people in jail for drug use. You seem to support criminalization. Also, most people for legalization, want it for adults over 21. It would not have been legal for you anyway.

Doug5 · 03-10-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Back to the original topic. He was able to hold down his job, because he could do his job impaired. That tells me anyone can get on a radio, get trashed, and insult half the nation with biased opinions. There are millions that do the same thing as a hobby. You can find them in bars, crack houses, places of this nature. They just don't get paid or have radio transmitters. Glad your opinion is in the very small minority. Maybe you can get Rush to use his powerful influence to start a "Legalize Opiates" campaign. He could use his experience to rebuff the opposition, belittle the people with horror stories about their own experiences, etc.

and what exactly is your point?

Doug5 · 03-10-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

then what in the world are you advocating for? please do clarify for me so I understand your position.

I advocate adults over 21, to be allowed to buy their drugs legally and use them in their home without fear of police busting in and arresting them. Just like you can with alcohol and cigarettes.

Tousi · 03-10-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

I advocate adults over 21, to be allowed to buy their drugs legally and use them in their home without fear of police busting in and arresting them. Just like you can with alcohol and cigarettes.

I'm envisioning a bunch of underage kids in the above scenario at a 22 yr old's place.....

Doug5 · 03-10-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

I'm envisioning a bunch of underage kids in the above scenario at a 22 yr old's place.....

then you have stiff penalties for anyone providing drugs to underage children.

I am all for keeping drugs out of the hands of minors.

The war on drugs did nothing to keep drugs from being unavailable to me. I could bought them in middle school. Drug dealers target children, cuz theyre less likely to be a cop.

I want legalization for adults over 21, while increasing efforts to keep them away from children.

Tousi · 03-10-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

then you have stiff penalties for anyone providing drugs to underage children.

I am all for keeping drugs out of the hands of minors.

The war on drugs did nothing to keep drugs from being unavailable to me. I could bought them in middle school. Drug dealers target children, cuz theyre less likely to be a cop.

I want legalization for adults over 21, while increasing efforts to keep them away from children.

I was really just half kidding up there but now I'm wondering about your last comment.....now I have visions of a police state.

Babyblue · 03-10-2009, 06:55 PM

Legalizing Pain pills, and prescription drugs; that are intended for illnesses.

I do not agree with that.

Prescription drugs are not made for pleasure. They are made to help the ones that are in medical need for the drugs.

**Daredevel7** · 03-10-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

then you have stiff penalties for anyone providing drugs to underage children.

I am all for keeping drugs out of the hands of minors.

The war on drugs did nothing to keep drugs from being unavailable to me. I could bought them in middle school. Drug dealers target children, cuz theyre less likely to be a cop.

I want legalization for adults over 21, while increasing efforts to keep them away from children.

Let me get this straight, you want coke, heroin, prescription pills, opiates, etc ALL to be legal? And absolutely no restrictions? No limits to how many you can get?

My my, I don't even think you comprehend how wrong that is from a medical standpoint. You forget the EFFECTIVENESS of drugs. You have to drink a LOT of alcohol to die from it. You have to smoke a LOT of tobacco to die from it. What if a kid accidently swallows a few pills of vicodin...? And I'm no doctor, but wouldn't this kind of strengthen viruses and bacteria for antibiotics? Isn't that why doctors say DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN 2 pills for certain medicines? It doesn't only have to do with toxicity....

Are you saying you want to wipe out pharmacies and get everything over the counter? I'm sorry, I'm trying hard to understand where you are coming from.

**saywhatkid** · 03-10-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

maybe you should voluntarily check yourself into jail for all those criminal acts you committed. or are you above the law?

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Originally Posted by Doug5

Ive already posted, I am against putting people in jail for drug use. You seem to support criminalization. Also, most people for legalization, want it for adults over 21. It would not have been legal for you anyway.

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Originally Posted by Doug5

and what exactly is your point?

Your first two replies seem to cancel each other out. Should I go to jail, or not? Hmmm....
You have taken the stage here to post support for open drug use. They do have this system, in limited use, over in Amsterdam. Anyhow, my point does not matter. I find it impossible to reason with unreasonable people. We disagree. Feel free to get the final words in. Have a nice day.

**Jiro** · 03-10-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

I advocate adults over 21, to be allowed to buy their drugs legally and use them in their home without fear of police busting in and arresting them. Just like you can with alcohol and cigarettes.

ah-ha.... I see what you mean. Well yes I do agree that what people do at their own home is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. as long as their recreational activity is strictly limited to their own home aka "RESPONSIBLE drug user"... fine by me

I do have a good friend who is like that and he's the smartest man I've ever know.. oh he's also a very liberal person

**Daredevel7** · 03-10-2009, 11:25 PM

But.. is Doug5 talkin about the "light" drugs like marijuana, etc, or EVERYTHING....?

**Bottesini** · 03-10-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

But.. is Doug5 talkin about the "light" drugs like marijuana, etc, or EVERYTHING....?

I think everything.

netrox · 03-11-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

Do your research and you will find the opiates are among the safest and least toxic of all the pain medicienes. Being the fat cigar chomping pig, he obviously doesnt care about his health anyways. Where was there the signs of impairment? He was on the radio and people had no idea. So if he doesnt drive why would you care what he does?

Rush became deaf because of extensive drug abuse.

We should care when someone is high on drugs and does machinary.

I know about drugs but you have to understand that drugs are NOT bad per se, it's the relationship that a person have with a drug that can be bad or good. When a person takes a drug that is several times the recommended dose and endangers his own health and others, then it has to stop right there.

I don't even support tobacco at all. Alcohol is fine with me as studies have shown clear benefits of moderate drinking.. and I emphasize MODERATION.

ASLGAL · 03-12-2009, 04:25 AM

Liebling made a good point in another thread....

Do not post assumptions without facts

I was wrong about this too.....

the statement: (not just Netrox but most of us)

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Rush became deaf because of extensive drug abuse.

Apparently the fact:

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7. After he went deaf in 2001 because of an autoimmune inner ear disease, Limbaugh hired a stenographer who sends him real-time transcripts of on-air conversations. He also has a cochlear implant that enables him to hear callers.

10 Things You Didn't Know About Rush Limbaugh - US News and World Report

Learn something new everyday.

Babyblue · 03-12-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

But.. is Doug5 talkin about the "light" drugs like marijuana, etc, or EVERYTHING....?

I think he means everything.

Which would include crack cocaine and methamphetamine, Very bad stuff!

People doing inside the privacy of their own homes. What about the children that lives inside of that home?

**Jiro** · 03-12-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

I think he means everything.

Which would include crack cocaine and methamphetamine, Very bad stuff!

People doing inside the privacy of their own homes. What about the children that lives inside of that home?

what about parents who are smoker? and alcoholic? and physically-abusive? and pets? and guns? and dangerous equipments like power tools? nothing more than double standard.......

Babyblue · 03-12-2009, 11:18 AM

Jiro,

If you really want to compare. Be my guest.

That is like comparing an aspirin to a narcotic pain pill.

**Jiro** · 03-12-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

Jiro,

If you really want to compare. Be my guest.

That is like comparing an aspirin to a narcotic pain pill.

and alcohol & smoking killed more people than these illicit drugs...

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03-10-2009, 06:55 PM	#109 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12,001	Legalizing Pain pills, and prescription drugs; that are intended for illnesses. I do not agree with that. Prescription drugs are not made for pleasure. They are made to help the ones that are in medical need for the drugs.

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Daredevel7 Adrenaline Junky Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 4,341	But.. is Doug5 talkin about the "light" drugs like marijuana, etc, or EVERYTHING....?

03-12-2009, 11:18 AM	#119 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12,001	Jiro, If you really want to compare. Be my guest. That is like comparing an aspirin to a narcotic pain pill.