Where's the Love??? - Page 5

Maria · 11-25-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Give me a few examples of what she had done, all I know was that she had stood by her husband while most people turned against Hillary for the injustices that her husband committed while in office.

I am NOT talkin' about Bill Clinton only. I am talkin' about Hillary Clinton, too.

Hillary's scandal : Whitewater. Hillary is known to manipulate and turn tables.

Maria · 11-25-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Maria tried to tell us that Hillary also have scandal, too in her previous posts, not just Bill's scandal.

Yep, that's right.

Maria · 11-25-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Same here, it seems like Maria don't trust herself and she has alot of fears about everything.

If, the fear is in the vocabulary, then you speak for yourself.

Maria · 11-25-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

lol!! I understand but forgive me - it sounds like your vision was drug-induced hallucination

ok I kid I kid. I guess we'll just wait and see, huh?

Hey, quit it will ya ?

Me hallucination ? Not!

Yep, we will wait and see....

11-25-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

nothing. Same as what we have been doing thru many Administrations - suck it up and vote for someone else in 4 years.

LOL! keep tryin for a better one, huh?

Maria · 11-25-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

true. eventually maria will see for herself what a good president obama is after he takes office.

Well, that's IF he keeps his promises like he said before he became elected.

Jiro · 11-25-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistyrose

LOL! keep tryin for a better one, huh?

oh yes.. oh yes... indeed!

Cheri · 11-25-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

I am NOT talkin' about Bill Clinton only. I am talkin' about Hillary Clinton, too.

Hillary's scandal : Whitewater. Hillary is known to manipulate and turn tables.

You're talking about something that started off in 1978? And it had proved that there was absolutely no evidence whatsoever against Hillary, she was not charge any criminal wrongdoing in the Whitewater deal. It's done and over with, even if she's guilty, she will have to face her punishment when her time comes. It's not for you to judge, Maria.

Maria · 11-25-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

You're talking about something that started off in 1978? And it had proved that there was absolutely no evidence whatsoever against Hillary, she was not charge any criminal wrongdoing in the Whitewater deal. It's done and over with, even if she's guilty, she will have to face her punishment when her time comes. It's not for you to judge, Maria.

Well, first of all... I don't think you understand why I brought that issue up. And, secondly people have the right to judge about how people handle things for this country - like for instance : people CAN protest against what they don't like to see or hear about candidate after become elected. They can judge.

I am NOT judgin' Hillary about her personal life - that is HER life, but how she handled things for this country -- THAT I can judge or opposed against. Do you understand ? I hope so.

Hear Again · 11-25-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Well, that's IF he keeps his promises like he said before he became elected.

just wait and see what happens before passing judgement. the problem with conservatives is that they can't accept the fact that obama will soon be our president, so they have to criticize him instead.

Jiro · 11-25-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Well, first of all... I don't think you understand why I brought that issue up. And, secondly people have the right to judge about how people handle things for this country - like for instance : people CAN protest against what they don't like to see or hear about candidate after become elected. They can judge.

I am NOT judgin' Hillary about her personal life - that is HER life, but how she handled things for this country -- THAT I can judge or opposed against. Do you understand ? I hope so.

As far as I'm concerned - she handled the political matters far better than anybody in Bush Administration.

Cheri · 11-25-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Well, first of all... I don't think you understand why I brought that issue up. And, secondly people have the right to judge about how people handle things for this country - like for instance : people CAN protest against what they don't like to see or hear about candidate after become elected. They can judge.

I am NOT judgin' Hillary about her personal life - that is HER life, but how she handled things for this country -- THAT I can judge or opposed against. Do you understand ? I hope so.

But, you judging something that shows no evidence of her wrongdoing, she wasn't charge anything regarding the Whitewater. I fail to see your point, I'm sorry Maria.

Foxrac · 11-26-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Maria

If, the fear is in the vocabulary, then you speak for yourself.

Ok, you seems fear of Obama, isn't it?

Maria · 11-26-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Ok, you seems fear of Obama, isn't it?

Do you want to know my honest answer ? My honest answer is NO.

jillio · 11-26-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

1.) Obama has nothing do with Bill Clinton´s affair scandal
2.) Bill Clinton did belongs PAST.
3.) Move on and focus Obama and his future plan!

Exactly. Bill Clinton refused to step down because he had not committed an impeachable act.

And Obama is "friends" with the Clintons due to political reasons.

Sad day indeed, when people focus on a President for no other reason than the fact that he got a bj from his intern. Like they themselves, have never gotten or given one. Tell me, should everyone be fired from their job for getting a bj?

jillio · 11-26-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Well, I think Obama is worse than Bush.

How can he possibly be worse than Bush. First off, he isn't even President yet. He is President-elect. And you have given him absolutely no opportunity to demonstrate what he is capable of doing for this country. Obviously, you are judging him on something other than his abilities. Hmm...what might that be?

Secretblend · 11-26-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

How can he possibly be worse than Bush. First off, he isn't even President yet. He is President-elect. And you have given him absolutely no opportunity to demonstrate what he is capable of doing for this country. Obviously, you are judging him on something other than his abilities. Hmm...what might that be?

:raises hand: I know! I know!!

jillio · 11-26-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Gee, not just only this " sex scandal " thing when I mentioned with the word " scandalS " with a letter " s " at the end. It also involved with Whitewater, Troopergate and the list goes on.

About Obama : I disagree with his goals/decisions and it doesn't mean that I have my " negative " expectations set about him. Agree to disagree with you. And, I would like to know WHY Obama has choose Hillary and befriends Bill Clinton at the same time knowin' that Bill Clinton was a corrupted President ? Does THAT tell me that Obama will do the same durin' in his presidency term ?

Uh, Troopergate was Sarah Palin's scandal. Remember her? You were a big supporter of hers.

jillio · 11-26-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

I know! I know!!

I think we all do!

sequoias · 11-26-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

How can he possibly be worse than Bush. First off, he isn't even President yet. He is President-elect. And you have given him absolutely no opportunity to demonstrate what he is capable of doing for this country. Obviously, you are judging him on something other than his abilities. Hmm...what might that be?

We don't even know what's he capable of, so no one knows what happens. I can't believe Maria said that he's worse than Bush, that's like judging the book by the covers.

jillio · 11-26-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

So, therefore Obama WILL make mistakes, too. Will it be alright with you if, Obama abuses his power and, even thou if he makes a mistake ?

We will see about that after Jan. 20th.

Of course he will make mistakes. He is human.

The question is not whether he will make mistakes, but whether those mistakes will outweigh his correct decisions. Unfortunately, with Bush, the scale tipped toward the mistake side.

jillio · 11-26-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Right. Do you think that it is okay to post somethin' to make fun of/look bad about a former president ? What's up with their conclusion and yet, they don't know what the outcome will be when Obama starts to work after January 20th, the one that they vote ?

I didn't vote for Obama.

We don't make Bush look bad. He managed to do that all by himself.

You didn't vote for Obama?

We're schocked!!!

jillio · 11-26-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Well, first of all... I don't think you understand why I brought that issue up. And, secondly people have the right to judge about how people handle things for this country - like for instance : people CAN protest against what they don't like to see or hear about candidate after become elected. They can judge.

I am NOT judgin' Hillary about her personal life - that is HER life, but how she handled things for this country -- THAT I can judge or opposed against. Do you understand ? I hope so.

They have the right to judge his actions. They do not have the right to judge him as a person. You don't seem to know the difference between the two.

Reba · 11-26-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Exactly. Bill Clinton refused to step down because he had not committed an impeachable act.

Clinton was impeached.

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Behind a backdrop unique in historical terms, on Saturday 19 December 1998, President William Jefferson Clinton was impeached by the United States House of Representatives, becoming only the second President in U.S. History, and the only man popularly elected as President to have been so charged.

The House voted 228 to 206 to approve proposed Article I of Impeachment (Perjury before a Federal Grand Jury), and voted 221 to 212 to approve proposed Article III of Impeachment (Obstruction of Justice).

Although the impeachment process succeeded at the level of the House of Representatives, without the Senate's confirming action in this matter, no further action was taken.

President Clinton Impeached

sequoias · 11-26-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Clinton was impeached.

President Clinton Impeached

Yes, but it failed. Therefore, he continued til Bush took office.

Jiro · 11-26-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Yes, but it failed. Therefore, he continued til Bush took office.

No No that's not the point. Point is - Reba is correcting Jillio's comment - "he had not committed an impeachable act."

Clinton was IMPEACHED (even though he was acquitted).... meaning this was an IMPEACHABLE act.

sequoias · 11-26-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

No No that's not the point. Point is - Reba is correcting Jillio's comment - "he had not committed an impeachable act."

Clinton was IMPEACHED (even though he was acquitted).... meaning this was an IMPEACHABLE act.

No need to correct me. I just saying it, that's all.

Jiro · 11-26-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

No need to correct me. I just saying it, that's all.

I'm not correcting you. Just clarifying Reba's post. Technically - it was an impeachable act but I don't think he should be impeached for it. But then.... that's up to people to decide. I'm surprised Bush wasn't even impeached.....

sequoias · 11-26-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I'm not correcting you. Just clarifying Reba's post. Technically - it was an impeachable act but I don't think he should be impeached for it. But then.... that's up to people to decide. I'm surprised Bush wasn't even impeached.....

Oh ok. Yeah, I'm surprised that Bush wasn't, either.

Foxrac · 11-26-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Do you want to know my honest answer ? My honest answer is NO.

Ok, Why does you keep think about Obama would be fail or not quality for 2nd term since he's not in office yet?

Do you satisfied with Bush? I don't make any expect about Bush after got in office in 2001 and he was quitely ok during early 2000's but got bad in mid 2000's.

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