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Why We Should Fear a McCain Presidency

It may seem incredible to say this, given past experience, but a few years from now Europe and the world could be looking back at the Bush administration with nostalgia. This possibility will arise if the US elects Senator John McCain as president in November.

Over the years the US has inserted itself into potential flashpoints in different parts of the world. The Republican party is now about to put forward a natural incendiary as the man to deal with those flashpoints.

The problem that Mr McCain poses stems from his ideology, his policies and above all his personality. His ideology, like that of his chief advisers, is neo-conservative. In the past, Mr McCain was considered to be an old-style conservative realist. Today, the role of the realists on his team is merely decorative.

Driven in part by his intense commitment to the Iraq war, Mr McCain has relied more on neo-conservatives such as his close friend William Kristol, the Weekly Standard editor. His chief foreign policy advisor is Randy Scheunemann, another leading neo-conservative and a founder of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. Mr McCain shares their belief in what Mr Kristol has called “national greatness conservatism”. In 1999, Mr McCain declared: “The US is the indispensable nation because we have proven to be the greatest force for good in human history... We have every intention of continuing to use our primacy in world affairs for humanity’s benefit.”

Mr McCain’s promises, during last week’s visit to London, to listen more to America’s European allies, need to be taken with a giant pinch of salt. There is, in fact, no evidence that he would be prepared to alter any important US policy at Europe’s request.

Reflecting the neo-conservative programme of spreading democracy by force, Mr McCain declared in 2000: “I’d institute a policy that I call ‘rogue state rollback’. I would arm, train, equip, both from without and from within, forces that would eventually overthrow the governments and install free and democratically elected governments.” Mr McCain advocates attacking Iran if necessary in order to prevent it developing nuclear weapons, and last year was filmed singing “Bomb, bomb Iran” to the tune of the Beach Boys’ “Barbara Ann”.

Mr McCain suffers from more than the usual degree of US establishment hatred of Russia, coupled with a particular degree of sympathy for Georgia and the restoration of Georgian rule over Abkhazia and South Ossetia. He advocates the expulsion of Russia from the Group of Eight leading industrialised nations and, like Mr Scheunemann, is a strong supporter of early Nato membership for Georgia and Ukraine. Mr Scheunemann has accused even Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state, of “appeasement” of Russia. Nato expansion exemplifies the potential of a McCain presidency. Apart from the threat of Russian reprisals, if the Georgians thought that in a war they could rely on US support, they might be tempted to start one. A McCain presidency would give them good reason to have faith in US support.

Mr McCain’s policies would not be so worrying were it not for his notorious quickness to fury in the face of perceived insults to himself or his country. Even Thad Cochran, a fellow Republican senator, has said: “I certainly know no other president since I’ve been here who’s had a temperament like that.”

For all his bellicosity, President George W. Bush has known how to deal cautiously and diplomatically with China and even Russia. Could we rely on Mr McCain to do the same?

Mr McCain exemplifies “Jacksonian nationalism” -- after Andrew Jackson, the 19th-century Indian-fighter and president -- and the Scots-Irish military tradition from which both men sprung. As Mr McCain’s superb courage in North Vietnamese captivity and his honourable opposition to torture by US forces demonstrate, he also possesses the virtues of that tradition. Then again, some of the greatest catastrophes of the 20th century were caused by brave, honourable men with a passionate sense of national mission.

Not just US voters, but European governments, should use the next nine months to ponder the consequences if Mr McCain is elected and how they could either prevent a McCain administration from pursuing pyromaniac policies or, if necessary, protect Europe from the ensuing conflagrations.

Copyright 2008, The Financial Times


Why We Should Fear a McCain Presidency | The New America Foundation

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Byrdie714

" You have nothing to fear but fear itself." --FDR

Jiro

Maria

Reba

If Europeans fear something, is that necessarily a bad thing?





I'm bad, I know.

Babyface

screw europe

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Liebling:-)))

for let me know who you all are.

I wasn´t realize that you all have the problem with European´s concern expression over future war issues.


Very interesting, Reba... look at your own thread, you created yesterday. *shake my head*

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SCBassist

Europe may one day stand alone, might as well include Germany as a nuclear capable nation as I think they're more capable of coming up with better deterrents than the French.

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Byrdie714

I wouldn't look to the Europeans.

Look to China and India as they will be the next economic powerhouse.

Europe is "a has been". Just like America will be.

dreama

I don't know about Macain but I fear Obama a lot more.

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Foxrac

Liebling, I understand about how your feeling about way on McCain's situation, however I hopefully that he wouldn't elect in Nov.

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Foxrac

Because of human rights? You are really not understand about how human rights work, even abortion has nothing with human rights, jut different situation and abortion law in your country isn't more liberal than USA does due request issue.

There's other countries aren't good on human rights, such as China, North Korea, Sudan, Iran and few other countries, Obama is best known for civil rights and human rights.

McCain is favor into keep wartime in Iraq and Palin has discussed about option to war against Russia, how is worse.

Never trust to some news that's lies or bias, or websites that you got heard from that.

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Liebling:-)))

why you said that you support McCain at other threads for when you said here that you didn't know him?

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Liebling:-)))

My feeling telling me that Obama will win!!!

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Liza

Remarkably, the way McCain keeps talking about his record does not speak of humility to me.

Cheri

No, that's not what she said, She fear Obama a lot more, she's unsure about McCain, which meaning she's not sure she fears McCain. That's why she said "I don't know about McCain"

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Liebling:-)))

You don't know her posts in several threads since last summer.

I know her fear reason is abortion issues because we know her posts in several debate threads. She is against war... We remind her in several threads that McCain support war.

That's why I remind her about her posts in several threads because I thought she knows about McCain until her post here... It puzzled me...

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Foxrac

What about discuss with dreama via PM and just give an more info and explanation about president candidate, I'm sure that she won't understand about something like that.

If she did then she would probably don't like McCain either due war issues.

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Cheri

If I were you, I would ask her for clarification. So? if he supports the war, Obama supports the death penalty and you're against the death penalty. There's no particular candidate will believe in everything you believe or support.

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Liebling:-)))

Excuse me, I know what I am saying. Don´t you know the difference between ASK her QUESTION and ASSUME her post?

Please re-read my response post toward Dreama carefully... it´s QUESTION I asked, not assumption because I´m wondering about her post and waiting for her specific...


During your long summer absence, you has no idea what and how we debated in several threads. We know her posts that´s why I ask her for specific.

I beleive that I did said in several threads that I disagreed few of Obama´s plan but he still have my support.

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Liebling:-)))

I appreciate your suggestion offer but I would not PM to influence her decision which she want support to since there´re plenty of political debate threads around here for long months. I would not want to pull her to support Obama against McCain but remind her that McCain support war. Let her decide herself.

Again, for your suggestion.

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Foxrac

Ok, sure, dreama isn't only person who from UK that dislike Obama, I know that few British are dislike Obama and McCain in both since they aren't vote due lacks of US citizenship.

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Liebling:-)))

Maybe fewer but I don´t know anyone who support McCain. I only know from all of my British and German friends are Obama´s supporters.

I posted the link, it written that there´re higher poll in Europe countries are Obama´s supporters.

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Cheri

Where did I say you made assumptions? Didn't happened, I said it's best to ask for clarification what she meant by what she said here. That's all.

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Liebling:-)))

[QUOTE] " If I were you, I would ask her for clarification."

You think I assumed her post because you suggest me to ask her. I was like because I DID asked her. I asked you to re-read my first post to question her carefully to see the difference between ask the question and assume her post. I ASKED her, not assume her post.

Get it?





Yes I have...

I ASKED her for specific, not clarification. I understood her post prefect but I ask her for specfic because I want to make sure.

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Reba

So what exactly does that prove???

Jiro

oh Reba! In other word.... to foreigners' opinions in American politic especially our candidates

Liebling:-)))

Very simple answer:

My friends & I offer our POV on US polities as the US election does affect European Union.

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Liebling:-)))

but as the foreigners/outsiders (accord your word), we care about how the US will behave in the world over the next four years.


You should better keep your yourself, Mr. anti-foreigner.

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Maria

Lieblin',

I support McCain. There's no reason to fear of McCain. There's ALWAYS fear out there through media, news, terrorists, war, and many more. Why should I fear of McCain ? *chuckles*

And, I want to ask you a question : Why should YOU fear of McCain since you don't live in USA to worry about ?

You live in Germany afterall.