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Old 09-03-2008, 09:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No. Korea rebuilding nuke plant

-- North Korea has started reassembling its main nuclear complex in retaliation for U.S. refusal to remove the Stalinist state from a list of states that sponsor terrorism, it was reported Wednesday.


N. Korea demolished the cooling tower at its main reactor complex in Yongbyon in June.

CNN could not independently confirm the report from Japan's Kyodo news agency, which quoted diplomatic officials saying ork at the Yongbyon complex had begun on Tuesday.

When asked about the report, U.S. national security spokesman Gordon Johndroe reiterated Washington's position.

"We and our partners in the six-party talks have made clear to North Korea that we need a credible verification protocol, and as soon as have it, we will remove North Korea from the terror list," Johndroe said Wednesday, referring to agreements involving the U.S., Russia, the two Koreas, China and Japan.

"North Korea knows what it needs to do at this point. The six-party talks operate on a principle of action-for-action."

North Korea announced last week that it had stopped disabling its nuclear plants on August 14 and would consider rebuilding its reactor because the United States has not removed it from its list.

U.S. State Department deputy spokesman Robert Wood said at the time that such a move would be "a step backward" and a violation of North Korea's commitments under the six-party agreements.

North Korea agreed to a complete dismantling of its Yongbyon nuclear complex by October. In return, U.S. President George W. Bush said he would lift some U.S. sanctions against the communist state and remove it from the list.

The sticking point between the two countries involves verification. Washington has said it will not remove North Korea from the terrorism list until Pyongyang agrees to set up an internationally recognizable mechanism to verify its declaration.

The United States has demanded that inspectors be given the right to visit all suspected nuclear facilities without notice, the South Korean news agency, Yonhap, said.

North Korea rejects that provision.

"The U.S. is gravely mistaken if it thinks it can make a house search in (North Korea) as it pleases just as it did in Iraq," the North Korean Foreign Ministry said in a statement carried by the state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA).

In June, North Korean officials turned over to China a 60-page declaration, written in English, that detailed several rounds of plutonium production at the Yongbyon plant, dating to 1986.

In it, North Korea acknowledges producing roughly 40 kilograms of enriched plutonium -- enough for about seven nuclear bombs, according to the U.S. State Department.

Soon after, North Korea publicly destroyed a water cooling tower at the Yongbyon facility.

North Korea agreed to abandon its atomic weapons program on a promise that it would receive energy aid equivalent to one million tons of heavy fuel oil from the five nations involved in the disarmament talks: the United States, South Korea, China, Japan and Russia.

The parties to the talks also agreed on a system for verifying North Korea's compliance, including "visits to facilities, review of documents, interviews with technical personnel and other measures unanimously agreed upon among the six parties," according to a joint statement they released.

Last week, the North Korean Foreign Ministry said that the United States was in "outright violation" of the agreement.

"The U.S., however, raised all of a sudden an issue of applying an 'international standard' to the verification of the nuclear declaration, abusing this agreed point," the statement said. "It (pressured North Korea) to accept such inspection as scouring any place ... as it pleases to collect samples and measure them."

South Korea's Foreign Ministry said it was disappointed by its neighbor's decision.

"The measure is regrettable as it came at a time when the six parties have to make concerted efforts to complete phase two of the denuclearization process," ministry spokesman Moon Tae-young told reporters.

He said Seoul "will work closely with relevant countries to have North Korea resume the disablement work as early as possible."


North Korea said to be rebuilding nuke plant - CNN.com
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Eventually, yes. It is inevitable.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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nothing to see nothing to see.... moving on. Very insignificant piece of news. My parents were born and raised in Korea and they hear this kind of military threats frequently all their life. They learned to ignore it. Same for many Koreans - "Nothing new"

Don't worry Bott - we're all gonna die eventually... but certainly not from them
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Eventually, yes. It is inevitable.
Probably I should not laugh. Sorry.

North Korea seems in my memory to make a habit of not following through with steps toward peace.
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Probably I should not laugh. Sorry.

North Korea seems in my memory to make a habit of not following through with steps toward peace.
And the U.S. just keeps buying into it.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
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nothing to see nothing to see.... moving on. Very insignificant piece of news. My parents were born and raised in Korea and they hear this kind of military threats frequently all their life. They learned to ignore it. Same for many Koreans - "Nothing new"

Don't worry Bott - we're all gonna die eventually... but certainly not from them
Head in the sand. Ignore it and it doesn't exist.
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I walked into this one not realizing who it was meant to provoke.

Sorry Jiro.

And the fight begins.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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WTF at North Korea, this link made me so sick and feel sad.

I wish not want USA to be under attack, I had very bad memory with 9/11 but nuke would going be much worser.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I walked into this one not realizing who it was meant to provoke.

Sorry Jiro.

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Actually, Bott, it was meant to "provoke" no one. It is merely a pertinent piece of news of which all should be aware.
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go to Korea and ask around. They don't care. My parents don't care. Hundred of my relatives in Korea don't care either and all of my cousins who are in required military service don't care either. Why? because there has not been any single military conflict since 1950's (except one incident - that NK submarine in 1996). NK makes threats like this just to flex its muscle once in a while to show the world that they are still big bad boy on the block. It's only matter of time till the regime collapses in NK as its economy is foundering.

Don't you recall that NK flip-flops all the time - agreeing to negotiation, agreeing to dismantle it, and then cut them off, rebuild nuke factory? Same cycle for decades.

If you're genuinely concerned about this issue - then you are no different from Bush supporters who got bought into whole 9/11 facade.

Anyway - this NK issue =
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go to Korea and ask around. They don't care. My parents don't care. Hundred of my relatives in Korea don't care either and all of my cousins who are in required military service don't care either. Why? because there has not been any single military conflict since 1950's (except one incident - that NK submarine in 1996). NK makes threats like this just to flex its muscle once in a while to show the world that they are still big bad boy on the block. It's only matter of time till the regime collapses in NK as its economy is foundering.

Don't you recall that NK flip-flops all the time - agreeing to negotiation, agreeing to dismantle it, and then cut them off, rebuild nuke factory? Same cycle for decades.

If you're genuinely concerned about this issue - then you are no different from Bush supporters who got bought into whole 9/11 facade.

Anyway - this NK issue =
Elaborate, please, because I fail to see the connection. Aren't you the one that keeps talking about terrorist threats from abroad?

And my concern is not how No. Koreans react to the news, but how it affects Americans, particularly on the tail of the Georgian incident.
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Elaborate, please, because I fail to see the connection. Aren't you the one that keeps talking about terrorist threats from abroad?

And my concern is not how No. Koreans react to the news, but how it affects Americans, particularly on the tail of the Georgian incident.
NK is not a terrorist - just a very very bad boy. I think you're confusing me with Pacman. I'm hardly concerned about terrorist threats from abroad. I'm more concerned about domestic terrorism.

and how does the news of NK affect America as it has not made any single attack on USA ever? and Georgia? Georgian incident is Russian's problem, not ours.... except our oil interest. It's all politic. Government wants to keep public scared and that's how Bush gets the seat. Same for McCain if this keeps up.

Don't worry about them. Worry about our country with tons of domestic issues. Don't forget - this is a native Korean talking to you. South Korea is my home too... with all my relatives. My simple advice to American delegates - stop pissing them off.
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NK is not a terrorist - just a very very bad boy. I think you're confusing me with Pacman. I'm hardly concerned about terrorist threats from abroad. I'm more concerned about domestic terrorism.

and how does the news of NK affect America as it has not made any single attack on USA ever? and Georgia? Georgian incident is Russian's problem, not ours.... except our oil interest. It's all politic. Government wants to keep public scared and that's how Bush gets the seat. Same for McCain if this keeps up.

Do you actually beleive that?

Don't worry about them. Worry about our country with tons of domestic issues. Don't forget - this is a native Korean talking to you. South Korea is my home too... with all my relatives. My simple advice to American delegates - stop pissing them off.
If No. Korea is truly not a threat, why worry whether they are pissed off or not? After all, they do have nuclear capabilities, unlike the country we attacked on the guess that they had nuclear weapons. Weapons, BTW, that were never found.
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If No. Korea is truly not a threat, why worry whether they are pissed off or not? After all, they do have nuclear capabilities, unlike the country we attacked on the guess that they had nuclear weapons. Weapons, BTW, that were never found.
because Americans like to stick their nose in everybody's business and dictate them around just because they don't like what they see. NK has a nuclear capability.... so what? Sure they're crazy but they're not THAT crazy to start a war with USA or to even hint at it. Why allow India and Israel to have nuclear capability? Just because they're a good guy? Pakistan is the only muslim country with nuclear capability and they acquired it to defend themselves from India. Hey why not Saudi Arabia? They're good guy too.

Look at Afghanistan and Iraq. This means USA can attack any country. NK is just afraid of being attacked by USA. that's all and I don't blame them. Like I said - USA should fuck off for a while and let them be.
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It going to be long time to see Korea back to one nation. ARgh...
they already started a very gradual unification process. both NK and SK already told USA to fuck off but no USA refuses to listen and thinks they know better. Because of that - the delicate unification process is further complicated.

In the end - it'll be 1 country but 2 government... most likely
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because Americans like to stick their nose in everybody's business and dictate them around just because they don't like what they see. NK has a nuclear capability.... so what? Sure they're crazy but they're not THAT crazy to start a war with USA or to even hint at it. Why allow India and Israel to have nuclear capability? Just because they're a good guy? Pakistan is the only muslim country with nuclear capability and they acquired it to defend themselves from India. Hey why not Saudi Arabia? They're good guy too.

Look at Afghanistan and Iraq. This means USA can attack any country. NK is just afraid of being attacked by USA. that's all and I don't blame them. Like I said - USA should fuck off for a while and let them be.
My, my. You have changed your tune!
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My, my. You have changed your tune!
? Methinks you're confusing me with someone else. It's ok. We asians look the same to white people
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Nope, not confused. And I am not white.
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Nope, not confused. And I am not white.
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