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Unread 09-15-2008, 12:18 PM   #271 (permalink)
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I know that, and she was a small child, I was talking about teenagers, don't get confused.
I wasn't confused. Afterall when she was alive--she knew about the birds-n-bees. She asked questions, she got truthful answers.

I only answered what she wanted to know at the time which was age appropiate.

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Her age doesn't matter. You said he would think differently when he had kids of his own. He did have a child of his own, and his views are still the same. He speaks as a father. Bydie is every bit as much a father as you are a mother.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 12:21 PM   #272 (permalink)
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Unread 09-15-2008, 12:23 PM   #273 (permalink)
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Since they already know she is pregnant, why aren't they married now?
Exactly. I asked the same question.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 12:24 PM   #274 (permalink)
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I wasn't confused. Afterall when she was alive--she knew about the birds-n-bees. She asked questions, she got truthful answers.

I only answered what she wanted to know at the time which was age appropiate.



No need to thank me. I was only speaking the truth, my friend.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 01:10 PM   #275 (permalink)
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One would think that feminists could, at least, congratulate Palin as exemplifying one of their core values: A woman's right to balance a career with family obligations. Some of you say she is a bad mother while some others of you she is bad for mothers who work because she is too good at having it all. She has a good support system of nearby family. She can juggle all this because she has a partner (hubby) who takes equal responsibility for raising their kids. Now that is real feminism. Kinda the opposite of "behind every man is a good woman".

The bickering here of late flies in the face of what real feminism is. Sure, there are questions about her qualifications just as there are questions about all candidates on any number of issues but her feminist role is not part of the VP's role.

That said, I like her, "I can do it" approach. That is, as opposed to "What can the government do for me" mentality of many, if not most, feminists.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 01:16 PM   #276 (permalink)
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Dont forget that Palin wants to overturn Row vs Wade.
 
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Dont forget that Palin wants to overturn Row vs Wade.
Yes, we are all aware of that!
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I doubt the Supreme Court would dare do that. Some of you probably had those same fears when Alioto was ensconced a couple years back.

Btw, it is Roe.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #279 (permalink)
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Yes, we are all aware of that!
All ? I am not one of them. I support Palin in despite of your disagreement with her and what she represents for this country.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 02:21 PM   #280 (permalink)
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I wasn't confused. Afterall when she was alive--she knew about the birds-n-bees. She asked questions, she got truthful answers.

I only answered what she wanted to know at the time which was age appropiate.
I don't know what u getting at, this is not what I'm talking about, never mind that, I'm not going to pull this thread off topic to talk about your daughter and teenagers.
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I don't know what u getting at, this is not what I'm talking about, never mind that, I'm not going to pull this thread off topic to talk about your daughter and teenagers.
Once a parent is always a parent whether the child is dead or alive.

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Teenagers don't always tell their parents what they are doin' outside of the parents' house. That's like they don't tell their parents about takin' drugs with their teen friends.

Same thing with pukin' in the tiolet when teen girls try to be like models, they hide it from their parents as well....

Until their parents saw somethin' that is revealin' out of their teenage kids.... too late to fix all that. Parents have to face it and move on. Of course, they will eventually be there for their teen kids.
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Exactly, You know what you're talking about.
Then that goes to show that the parents aren't being responsible with their children if they don't know what is going on in all aspect of their child's lives.

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Then that goes to show that the parents aren't being responsible with their children if they don't know what is going on in all aspect of their child's lives.

Ok, tell me what are you gonna do to make them to be honest with you to prevent it from all this happenin' ? What, if it is too late for you ? What are you gonna do about it when you knew that it can not be fixed, but to face it and move on -- just to be there for your teen child until he/she is fully responsible ?
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Here's a question;

Is Palin a sex freak?
If so, no wonder, like mother like daughter.
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Ok, tell me what are you gonna do to make them to be honest with you to prevent it from all this happenin' ? What, if it is too late for you ? What are you gonna do about it when you knew that it can not be fixed, but to face it and move on -- just to be there for your teen child until he/she is fully responsible ?
there is no "one answer for all." Every circumstance is different. Like I said - open mind, understanding, and proper education are key to nearly all scenarios. What do you think why people seek counselors? not because they have professional knowledge. it's because they are open mind and very understanding. They help and educate people to understand the situation better. Don't you wish we have those early on at schools?

1. Palin was probably a hard-ass and has a strong view on abstinence.
Result? her daughter's pregnant and unmarried

2. Your daughter's school taught abstinence program.
Result? Your daughter had a teen pregnancy

3. My old close friend's family is very Catholic and strict.
Result? He was a very risky fornicator and does not practice safe sex most of time. His sister is probably a fornicator too behind their backs.

Conclusion - Abstinence does not work. Banning does not work. Strict Rule does not work. Hiding information/education does not work.
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Yep. Just another case of "Do as I say, not do as I do." A leader needs to lead by example, not by dictatorship.
Exactly...we, private citizens, are entitled to our own privacy and have our ways of dealing with issues but Palin is expecting to be a leader so she opened herself up to the public. I see that the debates arent really about her daughter pregnancy but more of how Palin views it and how she will address it especially when she has strong beliefs about this kind of issue.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 05:03 PM   #286 (permalink)
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there is no "one answer for all." Every circumstance is different. Like I said - open mind, understanding, and proper education are key to nearly all scenarios. What do you think why people seek counselors? not because they have professional knowledge. it's because they are open mind and very understanding. They help and educate people to understand the situation better. Don't you wish we have those early on at schools?

1. Palin was probably a hard-ass and has a strong view on abstinence.
Result? her daughter's pregnant and unmarried

2. Your daughter's school taught abstinence program.
Result? Your daughter had a teen pregnancy

3. My old close friend's family is very Catholic and strict.
Result? He was a very risky fornicator and does not practice safe sex most of time. His sister is probably a fornicator too behind their backs.

Conclusion - Abstinence does not work. Banning does not work. Strict Rule does not work. Hiding information/education does not work.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 06:20 PM   #287 (permalink)
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The fact of the matter is, she is a 17 year old child pregnant with another child.
What? How can you prove that Bristol is pregnant with another child?? I am lost.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 06:22 PM   #288 (permalink)
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What? How can you prove that Bristol is pregnant with another child?? I am lost.
uh.... it's in the news maybe? She's pregnant, you know.
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uh.... it's in the news maybe? She's pregnant, you know.
I know that she is pregnant, but I am confused by Jillio's statement. That's why I ask for some clarification. Does she mean that Bristol is pregnant with second baby or what?
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I know that she is pregnant, but I am confused by Jillio's statement. That's why I ask for some clarification. Does she mean that Bristol is pregnant with second baby or what?
i guess she misspoke. just eliminate "another" but I'm sure we all understand.
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i guess she misspoke. just eliminate "another" but I'm sure we all understand.
probably. who knows?
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Then that goes to show that the parents aren't being responsible with their children if they don't know what is going on in all aspect of their child's lives.
not being responsible?! Nobody can be around their teens 24/7. How many pregnant teens are there in the USA? The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the world, so all those teens have bad parents? If you had a teenager, You'll know how it will be, we parents of teens learned to avoid hostile confrontation when a teen does something wrong, we also learned to keep the line of communication open.


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not being responsible?! Nobody can be around their teens 24/7. How many pregnant teens are there in the USA? The United States has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the world, so all those teens have bad parents? If you had a teenager, You'll know how it will be, we parents of teens learned to avoid hostile confrontation when a teen does something wrong, we also learned to keep the line of communication open.
I hope you you are teaching your boys to keep there "whatchamacallits" in their pants until they are married.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 07:08 PM   #294 (permalink)
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Ok, tell me what are you gonna do to make them to be honest with you to prevent it from all this happenin' ? What, if it is too late for you ? What are you gonna do about it when you knew that it can not be fixed, but to face it and move on -- just to be there for your teen child until he/she is fully responsible ?
I would give them incentives to make sure this would not happend.

First--they would be homeschooled--that way you would know what they are up to, what they are doing, etc.

Secondly--the incentives for the kids would be age appropiate. You want more minutes for that cell-phone/text messaging? Get an 'A+' o your finals, you want that car to drive around? Show me the g.p.a. of 3.6.

Can't do any of that, don't get the "perks".

Simple as that.
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All ? I am not one of them. I support Palin in despite of your disagreement with her and what she represents for this country.
Perhaps you misunderstood the question. The question was, "Does everyone know that Palin wants to over turn Roe v Wade? Are you saying that you don't know her stance, or that you simply agree with her stance? The question wasn't about agreement or disagreement with anything.
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there is no "one answer for all." Every circumstance is different. Like I said - open mind, understanding, and proper education are key to nearly all scenarios. What do you think why people seek counselors? not because they have professional knowledge. it's because they are open mind and very understanding. They help and educate people to understand the situation better. Don't you wish we have those early on at schools?

1. Palin was probably a hard-ass and has a strong view on abstinence.
Result? her daughter's pregnant and unmarried

2. Your daughter's school taught abstinence program.
Result? Your daughter had a teen pregnancy

3. My old close friend's family is very Catholic and strict.
Result? He was a very risky fornicator and does not practice safe sex most of time. His sister is probably a fornicator too behind their backs.

Conclusion - Abstinence does not work. Banning does not work. Strict Rule does not work. Hiding information/education does not work.
Exactly! Why keep doing what does not work? That is insane.
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Unread 09-15-2008, 07:22 PM   #297 (permalink)
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Once a parent is always a parent whether the child is dead or alive.



She is not speaking for everyone.....





Then that goes to show that the parents aren't being responsible with their children if they don't know what is going on in all aspect of their child's lives.
Thank you, Byrdie. Actually I was speaking only for those that are iformed about the issues, and I qualified that in my second statement. I don't pretend to speak for those that are uninformed and choose to stay that way.
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I don't know what u getting at, this is not what I'm talking about, never mind that, I'm not going to pull this thread off topic to talk about your daughter and teenagers.
You are the one that brought Byrdie's parenthood into question. Mistakenly, at that.
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What? How can you prove that Bristol is pregnant with another child?? I am lost.
Well, she certainly isn't pregnant with a dog.
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So you are saying that you don't know what Palin's stand is on Roe v Wade? How can you possibly know whether you support her or not if you don't even know where she stands on the issues? Are you telling us that you are a low information voter?
If you had pay more attention to my posts, read more carefully and stop being a troll then maybe you'll know where I stand, I had repeatedly stated that I wasn't gonna vote this year after Hillary was out.
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