Can a patriotic pitch save McCain's campaign?

Liebling:-))) · 08-14-2008, 08:38 AM

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Can a patriotic pitch save McCain's campaign?
McCain has been styling himself as a man who puts his 'country first'

WASHINGTON - It’s a colonial era city in the midst of farm country. Famous for its peppermint candy and barbell factory, York also gained notoriety during the Revolutionary War when the Continental Congress stopped here long enough to draft the Articles of Confederation.

The city is a faded monument to a certain kind of American life: 18th century English and German settlements, Pennsylvania long rifles, a wariness of outsiders, social change, and Big City.

This made York the perfect place for John McCain and his team to lay out their core strategy in the race against Barack Obama.

Their messages:

I’m an American and he’s not.
I’m a patriot and he’s not.
I’m a tough son-of-a-gun willing to confront our foes, he’s not.
This cold-blooded, chest-beating theme will either give McCain a real chance to overcome long odds and win the White House — or it will consign him to the dust bin of history.

For years, if not decades, McCain has positioned himself as the "thinking man’s" fighting man.

He sends out the idea that he’s tolerant and eager to cross party lines, while at the same time willing to eschew ideology and fear in the name of finding practical solutions.

That McCain still exists, and it is that man who appeals to independent voters. Among them, the senator still enjoys an certain je ne sais quoi.

But for that very reason, he has never been all that popular with the Reagan-Bush Base — the one Lee Atwater and Karl Rove built — of Southern whites, evangelical Christians and combative necons.

The way to woo that group, McCain & Co. has decided, is to scare the bejesus out of them.

And they’re doing it by highlighting this allegedly un-American, unpatriotic, weak, somehow foreign, and mysterious character named Obama.

We have been through this movie before — in 1988 and 2004 — and both times it helped a Republican named Bush win the election.

But will it work this time? McCain’s camp thinks so.

In York, they sent forth Joe Lieberman, whose bland demeanor hides a hit man’s heart, to explicitly utilize the accusatory theme that McCain has used before.

McCain, for nearly two months now, has been styling himself as a man who puts his “country first.”

He is legitimately using his unwillingness to be given an early release from prison camp during Vietnam as a metaphor.

McCain, the son of admirals, says he knew that the Vietnamese wanted a propaganda tool, and he was not about to become one to aid his own plight.

It’s hard to dispute that, and no one has attacked him for the implication, which is that Obama has not and will not “put the country first.”

In York, Lieberman made things “perfectly clear,” to use an old Nixon term.

Introducing McCain at a large fairgrounds rally, Lieberman said the choice was “between one candidate, John McCain, who has always put the country first, worked across party lines to get things done, and one candidate who has not.”

If the McCain campaign thought Lieberman had gone a step too far, they didn’t say so. Just the opposite: they posted his entire introduction online.

I asked McCain’s closest advisor and friend, Mark Salter, for an example of a time when Obama did not “put the country first.”

His answer: the Senate maneuvering of immigration legislation.

In his view, Obama did big labor’s bidding by helping to kill the chances for a grand compromise on immigration reform.

“His campaign came before his country,” Salter told me in an e-mail.

In other words, if you weren’t for McCain’s deal, you didn’t put the country first.

In York, McCain didn’t just wrap himself in the American flag — he wore it like a tight-fitting Olympic swimsuit.

And the folks in the stands loved every minute of it.

He also portrayed himself as the man who understands who our enemies are in the world — including a renascent Russian bear.

Obama, his aides said, was slow off the mark in his initial statements about the situation in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia.

The cheering crowd not only loved McCain’s combativeness, but seemed almost glad to be facing a familiar old foe: the Russians.

All in all, it was a good event for McCain.

The crowd comprised a slice of America that McCain needs if he intends to win Pennsylvania and the election.

And that slice is: white (I did not spot a single African American in the crowd), rural, “exurban,” and mostly Protestant, with local roots stretching back centuries.

They live in “The T” of Pennsylvania – which encompasses pretty much everything outside of the metropolitan areas of Philly and Pittsburgh.

It’s indubitably American.

But so, Obama will have to argue, is he.

He’s the up-by-the-bootstraps son of a wayward but brilliant immigrant father and an idealistic mom. He’s the kid who worked hard and took out loans to get an education at Columbia and Harvard. And he’s the candidate who loves his country for the chances it’s given him.

Who knows, that might even sell in York.

Fineman: Can a patriotic pitch save McCain's campaign? - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

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Oh my dear - it make me sick...

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I’m an American and he’s not.

Of course Obama is an American.

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I’m a patriot and he’s not.

Obama is not unpatriotic because he said that he love America. His word is good enough to prove us than material things to prove us that they are patriot...

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I’m a tough son-of-a-gun willing to confront our foes, he’s not.

I'm glad that Obama is not.

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This cold-blooded, chest-beating theme will either give McCain a real chance to overcome long odds and win the White House — or it will consign him to the dust bin of history.

That's selfish talk.

It look like that McCain has no clue about American's concern but himself...

It got me goose bump...

PowerON · 08-14-2008, 09:31 AM

Lot of thread about start with against on McCain.

jillio · 08-15-2008, 10:08 AM

In York, McCain didn’t just wrap himself in the American flag — he wore it like a tight-fitting Olympic swimsuit.

"When facism come to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Upton Sinclair

Jiro · 08-15-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

In York, McCain didn’t just wrap himself in the American flag — he wore it like a tight-fitting Olympic swimsuit.

"When facism come to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Upton Sinclair

the only thing to hide behind it if you got nothing to left under your sleeve

Liebling:-))) · 09-02-2008, 06:14 PM

Have you notice the picture of McCain with Palin. McCain don´t wear US flag pit on his blazer but Palin...

Obama: Flags on a Plane - Political Machine

Check snope.com at # 25 and #28 posts
http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political...oop-visit.html

McCain should have American shoes but he bought Italian shoes for $500...

Anyway, my personally view over wear those patriotic material make no sense but word out of their mouth how much they loves America is good enough...

jillio · 09-02-2008, 06:26 PM

In York, McCain didn’t just wrap himself in the American flag — he wore it like a tight-fitting Olympic swimsuit.

"When facism comes to America, it will be wearing a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Reba · 09-07-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

McCain should have American shoes but he bought Italian shoes for $500...

What shoes did Obama wear? How much did they cost? Who made them?

Who cares?

Foxrac · 09-08-2008, 11:53 AM

Oh, my post were removed, thanks to whoever report it.

I agree with Liebling about between McCain and Obama, McCain don't wear american flag pin on his blazer and no american flag logo on his airplane, so same goes to Obama either, McCain made many lies/misled against Obama.

Clothing aren't matters if not made in america, most clothes are came from imported, such as my DC shoe is made in China and very hard to find shoe that made in america.

No one is perfect when come to be patriot, for me, important is speech about patriotism and other thing like that.

Liza · 09-08-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

In York, McCain didn’t just wrap himself in the American flag — he wore it like a tight-fitting Olympic swimsuit.

"When facism come to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Upton Sinclair

Good one! Don't judge a book by its covered flag.

This is probably a very extreme example, but you can kind of get a general idea of what I mean: Hitler managed to convince many Germans during a bad, desperate time in Germany and used national pride to excite them too. They had their own flag and all, y'know. Flags aren't supposed to be destroyed nor be treated with disrespect, right? Must, must respect the man behind the flag! Um, right? Right? What?

Discernment is SO important during these times....

Liza · 09-08-2008, 12:05 PM

It just occured to me that the flag is an excellent and proven brand -- and McCain is just taking advantage of that brand. Americans are raised to respect the flag, and so when McCain and Obama use that -- they are using an excellent brand that is centuries worth of hard work. It's all about marketing and buying into an image. If you associate yourself with that image, then you can have people relating to you easily.

Bottesini · 09-08-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

What shoes did Obama wear? How much did they cost? Who made them?

Who cares?

PowerON · 09-08-2008, 01:11 PM

USA! USA! USA! *show boobies*

I thought I saw boobies while McCain gave the speech and there is insane lady chant and rip her cloths off. *shurg* Maybe I was drunk. haha

Liza · 09-08-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

USA! USA! USA! *show boobies*

I thought I saw boobies while McCain gave the speech and there is insane lady chant and rip her cloths off. *shurg* Maybe I was drunk. haha

Why dont you show your USA pride by showing us your man boobs?

Byrdie714 · 09-09-2008, 12:24 AM

I have a different view on this.....I think that both Obama and McCain are patriotic enough as both are running for the White House.

The only thing I object to is having one wrapped in the red, white & blue to be claiming one is patriortic than the other.

It's a little sickening.....

jillio · 09-09-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

I have a different view on this.....I think that both Obama and McCain are patriotic enough as both are running for the White House.

The only thing I object to is having one wrapped in the red, white & blue to be claiming one is patriortic than the other.

It's a little sickening.....

Yeppers. Notice those claims of one being unpatriotic only come from one direction.

Liebling:-))) · 09-09-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

What shoes did Obama wear? How much did they cost? Who made them?

I remind McCain because he badmouthed and accused Obama as an unpatriotic.

Next time, McCain should shut his mouth!

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Who cares?

I noticed some Americans cares about patriot and accused Obama as an unpatriotic because McCain says so, that´s why I remind them...

Liebling:-))) · 09-09-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

I have a different view on this.....I think that both Obama and McCain are patriotic enough as both are running for the White House.

The only thing I object to is having one wrapped in the red, white & blue to be claiming one is patriortic than the other.

It's a little sickening.....

Of course they are patriotic...

McCain use his material thing to prove everyone that he is a patriotic.

Obama use his own word to prove everyone that he is a patriotic.

They are different.

It doesn´t bother me really if McCain and Obama like clothes taste from other countries.

Next time, McCain should shut his mouth because some people remind him that he don´t have US flag or whatever on his plane, pin, and bought Italian shoes, etc.

BradB08 · 09-09-2008, 02:37 AM

Wouldn't shock me if McCain abused the Patriotism angle, since he has nothing else of substance to offer Americans suffering from high gas and food prices, foreclosures and high medical bills.

Seriously, I don't know how much lower McCain can sink with his antics. He's already touching on the 8th circle of hell.

BradB08 · 09-09-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Liza

Good one! Don't judge a book by its covered flag.

This is probably a very extreme example, but you can kind of get a general idea of what I mean: Hitler managed to convince many Germans during a bad, desperate time in Germany and used national pride to excite them too. They had their own flag and all, y'know. Flags aren't supposed to be destroyed nor be treated with disrespect, right? Must, must respect the man behind the flag! Um, right? Right? What?

Discernment is SO important during these times....

The example works somewhat with the exception that unless Bush suspends the elections, we don't really have anyone on par with Hitler in our government.

jillio · 09-09-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

Wouldn't shock me if McCain abused the Patriotism angle, since he has nothing else of substance to offer Americans suffering from high gas and food prices, foreclosures and high medical bills.

Seriously, I don't know how much lower McCain can sink with his antics. He's already touching on the 8th circle of hell.

Ahh...Dante's Inferno.

Good application!

Byrdie714 · 09-09-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Of course they are patriotic...

McCain use his material thing to prove everyone that he is a patriotic.

Obama use his own word to prove everyone that he is a patriotic.

They are different.

It doesn´t bother me really if McCain and Obama like clothes taste from other countries.

Next time, McCain should shut his mouth because some people remind him that he don´t have US flag or whatever on his plane, pin, and bought Italian shoes, etc.

Huh?

I'm talking about the both of them making the decision to run for Presidency.
Many Americans know that it's not an easy job to do and anyone who makes the decision to run for Presidency should be admired for their courage to do so.

Nothing about clothes.

PowerON · 09-09-2008, 10:56 AM

Look like McCain have gain more vote in favor than Obama lately.

I guess Democrat abuses on Republic isn't good idea.

Foxrac · 09-09-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Look like McCain have gain more vote in favor than Obama lately.

I guess Democrat abuses on Republic isn't good idea.

It's opinion poll, not real election, who cares about it...

You made notorious dumb comment that stated America isn't ready for black or woman president, it show your ignorant.

PowerON · 09-09-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

It's opinion poll, not real election, who cares about it...

You made notorious dumb comment that stated America isn't ready for black or woman president, it show your ignorant.

Yeah and I haven't make decide yet.

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Foxrac o_O Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 14,190	Oh, my post were removed, thanks to whoever report it. I agree with Liebling about between McCain and Obama, McCain don't wear american flag pin on his blazer and no american flag logo on his airplane, so same goes to Obama either, McCain made many lies/misled against Obama. Clothing aren't matters if not made in america, most clothes are came from imported, such as my DC shoe is made in China and very hard to find shoe that made in america. No one is perfect when come to be patriot, for me, important is speech about patriotism and other thing like that. __________________

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jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 20,809	In York, McCain didn’t just wrap himself in the American flag — he wore it like a tight-fitting Olympic swimsuit. "When facism come to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Upton Sinclair

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Liza Cranial protocologist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 4,107 Blog Entries: 2	It just occured to me that the flag is an excellent and proven brand -- and McCain is just taking advantage of that brand. Americans are raised to respect the flag, and so when McCain and Obama use that -- they are using an excellent brand that is centuries worth of hard work. It's all about marketing and buying into an image. If you associate yourself with that image, then you can have people relating to you easily.

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Byrdie714 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pacific County, Washington Posts: 4,810	I have a different view on this.....I think that both Obama and McCain are patriotic enough as both are running for the White House. The only thing I object to is having one wrapped in the red, white & blue to be claiming one is patriortic than the other. It's a little sickening.....

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BradB08 You talkin' to me? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,692 Blog Entries: 1	Wouldn't shock me if McCain abused the Patriotism angle, since he has nothing else of substance to offer Americans suffering from high gas and food prices, foreclosures and high medical bills. Seriously, I don't know how much lower McCain can sink with his antics. He's already touching on the 8th circle of hell.

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