McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan - Page 4

Byrdie714 · 07-24-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

That doesn't mean it took 20 years to recover; it just means I checked it today, not 10 years ago.

I really don't know; maybe he wants to diversify.

I'm not opposed to finding alternative means of energy. I believe that using one kind of energy doesn't negate also using another. We should tap into all the resources possible.

Then we should find other alternative means of energy instead of , "I think there is oil there--let's drill" mentality.

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The 5 to 13 ratio isn't important. Not all groups are created equal in size, credibility, objectivity, or influence.

I also opened and read some of the links that weren't specifically under the "oppose" or "support" categories, and found more support, particularly from some of the indigenous groups.

Of course you would find support from the indigenous people due to the American government not supporting them enough--financially.

Besides we need to diversify our energy sources instead of relying heavily on oil. There is wind, solar, nuclear power.

Foxrac · 07-24-2008, 01:40 PM

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Polar bears are endangered species and are frequents visitors of ANWR.

I'm sure that if you are walking along the South Carolina beaches, hand in hand with hubby being romantic, that looking out into the horizon of the ocean and seeing oil wells would picturesque. NOT!

Guess this discussion is going to be "agree to disagree." I been to ANWR and it is one of the most beautiful places on earth and just don't see any justification drilling for oil there.

lol, if oil spill so accidently on SC beach then Reba will yell and her hair would be spiked then run away so hard, she would probably says Byrdie is professionally right.

Liebling:-))) · 07-24-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

lol, if oil spill so accidently on SC beach then Reba will yell and her hair would be spiked then run away so hard, she would probably said Byrdie is professionally right.

Oh yes, you have a good memory over those word "hair spiked"... I love those word when Reba spoke at other thread.. "my hair is spiked"...

Reba · 07-24-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

...Besides we need to diversify our energy sources instead of relying heavily on oil. There is wind, solar, nuclear power.

I keep saying that too, but no one seems to notice.

Yes, I want us to drill wherever we can to get enough oil so we don't have to depend on imports. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO EXPLORE AND USE OTHER SOURCES OF POWER, SUCH AS WIND, SOLAR, HYDROELECTRIC, AND NUCLEAR. I ALSO SUPPORT CONSERVATION EFFORTS BY INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENTS, AND ORGANIZATIONS.

I'm out of breath. Whew!

Reba · 07-24-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Oh yes, you have a good memory over those word "hair spiked"... I love those word when Reba spoke at other thread.. "my hair is spiked"...

I'm afraid my hair's a little longer now, so it no longer spikes.

Even a granny like me tries to keep up with changing styles.

shel90 · 07-24-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I keep saying that too, but no one seems to notice.

Yes, I want us to drill wherever we can to get enough oil so we don't have to depend on imports. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO EXPLORE AND USE OTHER SOURCES OF POWER, SUCH AS WIND, SOLAR, HYDROELECTRIC, AND NUCLEAR. I ALSO SUPPORT CONSERVATION EFFORTS BY INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENTS, AND ORGANIZATIONS.

I'm out of breath. Whew!

LOL!

I agree with you so what do u think of our chances of these possibilities becoming a reality? I just have a hard time believing that the day we dont rely heavily on oil is coming anytime soon because of how much power the lobbyists for the oil companies have on our govt.

Reba · 07-24-2008, 02:08 PM

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LOL!

I agree with you so what do u think of our chances of these possibilities becoming a reality? I just have a hard time believing that the day we dont rely heavily on oil is coming anytime soon because of how much power the lobbyists for the oil companies have on our govt.

I don't think alternative fuels for vehicles will be a quick change. But I think if more power plants can convert to other sources, including providing heating for homes, then that would take some of the demand for those things. Then the petroleum could be used for manufacturing processes and products, mechanical lubricants, and vehicles.

I would love to see more inexpensive-to-use public transportation provided, with updated infrastructure to make it more practical. That would take a lot of cars off the roads. Not everyone could make use of public transportation but if more people could use it, then that would reduce commuter burden.

We need some bold and ethical leaders in government to do what it takes without worrying about their political butts or popularity. Knowing human nature, that's not too likely.

Tousi · 07-24-2008, 02:35 PM

Byrdie, did you see post # 82?

Reba · 07-24-2008, 02:38 PM

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...Had they proceeded ten years ago there and elsewhere in the USA, we would be online now!!!!

Yesiree!

Jiro · 07-24-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I'm afraid my hair's a little longer now, so it no longer spikes.

Even a granny like me tries to keep up with changing styles.

show us the pix!

Byrdie714 · 07-24-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I keep saying that too, but no one seems to notice.

Yes, I want us to drill wherever we can to get enough oil so we don't have to depend on imports. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO EXPLORE AND USE OTHER SOURCES OF POWER, SUCH AS WIND, SOLAR, HYDROELECTRIC, AND NUCLEAR. I ALSO SUPPORT CONSERVATION EFFORTS BY INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, GOVERNMENTS, AND ORGANIZATIONS.

I'm out of breath. Whew!

Then shouldn't we focus on that instead of "Let's go drilling in ANWR?"

Byrdie714 · 07-24-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Byrdie, did you see post # 82?

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Well, Byrdie, allow me to allay some of your tree-hugging fears!

Of all the places I have been to, Alaska's my favorite. I trust those in Congress who set up regs as to where in the ANWR oil & gas drilling can take place. I don't think most people really know just where this area is. The area allowed within the ANWR for drilling is a relatively tiny area. This area is neither a refuge nor wilderness; it was specifically set aside by Congress for oil and gas exploration because of its well known evidence of said commodities. It has practically no life and is barren.

So let's be careful not to believe the entire area of ANWR is open to exploration. In fact, the area set aside for this activity has a footprint of just 2, 000 acres! That's what.....less than 1/2 of a percent of the entire area.

The thing that bugs me is that development cannot proceed without Congressional say-so and they (we all will) rue the day that this issue was on the back burner for so long. Had they proceeded ten years ago there and elsewhere in the USA, we would be online now!!!! It takes about that long! Get some backbone, already, Congress!!

The issue then becomes moot because if they start to drill in one part of the ANWR, then they want to drill in other areas of ANWR.

Wokamuka · 07-24-2008, 07:07 PM

I still don't understand how 1989 is "not ten years" . . . did someone change the math rules on me?

Tousi · 07-24-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

The issue then becomes moot because if they start to drill in one part of the ANWR, then they want to drill in other areas of ANWR.

No, Congress is not entertaining any ideas for drilling in any other part of the ANWR; heck, they can't even get their collective rears in gear to get that which has already been approved!

Reba · 07-24-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Then shouldn't we focus on that instead of "Let's go drilling in ANWR?"

I said that we need to do them all; we shouldn't limit our options.

Reba · 07-24-2008, 08:40 PM

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show us the pix!

Sorry, we're getting

Sunshinelady · 07-24-2008, 11:44 PM

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Oic, are you a naturalized American citizen?

In Fact, I am not american. I am germany and not yet american citizen.
True, normally I lived in Germany and never involving to voting. I am neutral. everyone Politics BULLSHIT!!!!

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 07-24-2008, 11:47 PM

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gasonline expense...

AllDeaf.com - View Single Post - Geez I called Oil Heat today!!!

I only pay gasonline expenses every 6 to 7 weeks when I use a car everyday.

I'm glad not to live in America.

You can get Hybrid to save your gas.

Reba said she can't afford to get a new car. She can trade to Hybrid car.

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 07-24-2008, 11:50 PM

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In Fact, I am not american. I am germany and not yet american citizen.
True, normally I lived in Germany and never involving to voting. I am neutral. everyone Politics BULLSHIT!!!!

That's true! I don't want to be panic! I don't believe in stink opinion. I rather RIGHT. You don't have to vote.

Byrdie714 · 07-25-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

No, Congress is not entertaining any ideas for drilling in any other part of the ANWR; heck, they can't even get their collective rears in gear to get that which has already been approved!

Byrdie714 · 07-25-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I said that we need to do them all; we shouldn't limit our options.

Then who is going to foot the bill? Afterall we are having enough economic troubles as it is.

Reba · 07-25-2008, 02:24 PM

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You can get Hybrid to save your gas.

Reba said she can't afford to get a new car. She can trade to Hybrid car.

Ha, ha. How much trade in do you think I can get for a '95 Cherokee?

Car payments would still cost more than gas savings, so it's not worth it.

Gas is now $2.79! Dropping!

Reba · 07-25-2008, 02:25 PM

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Then who is going to foot the bill? Afterall we are having enough economic troubles as it is.

The companies that want to profit should pay for the exploration, development, and production.

Foxrac · 07-25-2008, 02:38 PM

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Ha, ha. How much trade in do you think I can get for a '95 Cherokee?

Car payments would still cost more than gas savings, so it's not worth it.

Gas is now $2.79! Dropping!

What??? You means $3.79?

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 07-26-2008, 02:52 PM

That's true. Payment is expensive! You mean 3.79? I never see 2.79 for right now.

I wish I would know about hybrid but I am not drive.

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Ha, ha. How much trade in do you think I can get for a '95 Cherokee?

Car payments would still cost more than gas savings, so it's not worth it.

Gas is now $2.79! Dropping!

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