McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan

Liebling:-))) · 07-22-2008, 01:23 AM

McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan

Says troop withdrawal in Iraq must be based on ground conditions

McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan - John McCain News - MSNBC.com

I noticed that McCain criticize Obama and his plan. It's more than just article, I posted here. *sigh* that's why I like Obama more and more for his character and personality.

Can you fresh my memory about Obama's criticize McCain because I can't remember anything what and how Obama criticize McCain and his plan?

Jiro · 07-22-2008, 01:56 AM

I don't know about Obama's criticism but we all know about McCain's infamous "100 years war" which drew a huge criticism. He's a fool.

Foxrac · 07-22-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

I don't know about Obama's criticism but we all know about McCain's infamous "100 years war" which drew a huge criticism. He's a fool.

Yup, agreed...

I just ignore McCain's bullshit.

PowerON · 07-22-2008, 07:23 AM

Only thing McCain is tell us that he have experience in military and he know his field. Obama don't, because he wasn't in that kind resume he have.

Any complain why France, USSR, England and US were spend in German for long time?

Foxrac · 07-22-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Only thing McCain is tell us that he have experience in military and he know his field. Obama don't, because he wasn't in that kind resume he have.

Any complain why France, USSR, England and US were spend in German for long time?

It's still don't make him looks better or perfect, no matters, however no one has ultimate experience on military and terrorist can be smarter than McCain.

We need get done with Iraq war, that's useless war and cost alot of money, even we are in big debt, it need getting fix it but Afghan war is other way, that's good reason due issue with Al Qaeda, also we can't keep war for very long time.

It will not going to make him looks better, in some case, Obama can be better than you expected or so.

PuyoPiyo · 07-22-2008, 08:47 AM

The wars are becoming unnecessary and continue killing the armies which are not fair for us, so I don't support the wars right now.

PowerON · 07-22-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

It's still don't make him looks better or perfect, no matters, however no one has ultimate experience on military and terrorist can be smarter than McCain.

We need get done with Iraq war, that's useless war and cost alot of money, even we are in big debt, it need getting fix it but Afghan war is other way, that's good reason due issue with Al Qaeda, also we can't keep war for very long time.

It will not going to make him looks better, in some case, Obama can be better than you expected or so.

no need to know how better or perfect as long as we know what in field anyone is familiar with. oh well.

Reba · 07-22-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan

Says troop withdrawal in Iraq must be based on ground conditions

McCain: Obama wrong on Iraq, Afghanistan - John McCain News - MSNBC.com

I noticed that McCain criticize Obama and his plan. It's more than just article, I posted here. *sigh* that's why I like Obama more and more for his character and personality.

Can you fresh my memory about Obama's criticize McCain because I can't remember anything what and how Obama criticize McCain and his plan?

Why shouldn't McCain criticize Obama? Obama criticizes McCain equally. That's what political campaigning is about. If they both agreed on everything there would be no point in holding an election.

McCain can explain why he thinks Obama is wrong, and Obama can explain why he thinks McCain is wrong. They both do that. So? That's political campaigning.

If Obama makes a wrong statement or votes the wrong way in Congress, then McCain has the right to point to that.

Intelligent and informed citizens don't vote for "personality." They judge a candidate's character, previous record, experience, judgment, and plans.

Voting for the American President is not the same as voting for "American Idol".

If you can't find any instances where Obama criticized McCain you must not have looked very hard. Of course, until HRC dropped out of the race, Obama was focused more on criticizing her.

Byrdie714 · 07-22-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Why shouldn't McCain criticize Obama? Obama criticizes McCain equally. That's what political campaigning is about. If they both agreed on everything there would be no point in holding an election.

McCain can explain why he thinks Obama is wrong, and Obama can explain why he thinks McCain is wrong. They both do that. So? That's political campaigning.
If Obama makes a wrong statement or votes the wrong way in Congress, then McCain has the right to point to that.

Intelligent and informed citizens don't vote for "personality." They judge a candidate's character, previous record, experience, judgment, and plans.

Voting for the American President is not the same as voting for "American Idol".

If you can't find any instances where Obama criticized McCain you must not have looked very hard. Of course, until HRC dropped out of the race, Obama was focused more on criticizing her.

Exactly and unfortunately we have to endure it for a little over 4 months!

Reba · 07-22-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

...Can you fresh my memory about Obama's criticize McCain because I can't remember anything what and how Obama criticize McCain and his plan?

Gladly. I'll use your same source:

Obama hits McCain on economy, gas prices - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

Obama, McCain pitch economic plans - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

Obama, McCain spar on levees - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

Obama, McCain to campaign together? - First Read - msnbc.com

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...7/1068590.aspx

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 07-22-2008, 10:14 AM

Thank you guys! I copied and paste of all news links to my husband's emails to see what he will say. He know it a lot about politics more than I am!

I can say Obama and McCain both are in challange and criticize each other! I have no comment who I will vote for! We will wait and see until Nov.

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 07-22-2008, 10:45 AM

We here is what is going on. We have more oil on American soil then all of the middle east. The only problem is liberals like obama want to protect the environment over people going into debt because of the oil prices. If we drill in the arctic national wildlife refuge or ANWR (an - wor). If we drill there then we can set our own prices for ourselves and stop using foreign oil. You see what. OPEC (the oil producing countries) control the flow of oil so that they make more money from the non producing countries. And when you control the supply of oil you control the price. And it is the foreign market of oil that is going up. Now McCain want to open up drilling on our soil to help the American people out. But the dems want to use the national oil reserve. The reserve that is the 60 day reserve that the country would need to survive if something ever happens. Then McCain want to take the tax on gas away for a temporary time and obama says that it wouldn't work. It is just craziness.

Liebling:-))) · 07-22-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Gladly. I'll use your same source:

Obama hits McCain on economy, gas prices - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

Obama, McCain pitch economic plans - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

Obama, McCain spar on levees - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

Obama, McCain to campaign together? - First Read - msnbc.com

Obama hits McCain on Bush fundraiser - First Read - msnbc.com

for provide positive links. I only see that Obama criticize Cain in positive way is for his people and country..., not criticize Cain in negative way - example... belittle and judge Cain or prove Obama wrong, etc....

Example:
McCain Judges Obama, That Young Man - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

Reba · 07-22-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

for provide positive links. I only see that Obama criticize Cain in positive way is for his people and country..., not criticize Cain in negative way - example... belittle and judge Cain or prove Obama wrong, etc....

Example:
McCain Judges Obama, That Young Man - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

Why is it OK for Obama and his supporters to keep criticizing McCain for being "old" but it's not OK for McCain and his supporters to criticize Obama for lack of experience?

I can't believe that you read those links and came to that conclusion. There is nothing "positive" about the things that Obama said about McCain.

Apparently it does no good to show any links to you because you will see only the viewpoint that you want no matter what the facts are.

BTW, his last name is "McCain" not "Cain".

Reba · 07-22-2008, 11:40 AM

Some of Obama's associates:

Rashid Khalidi

William Ayres

Tony Rezko

Rashid Khalidi: PLO Member & Obama Mentor : NO QUARTER

Byrdie714 · 07-22-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pinky678

we Here Is What Is Going On. We Have More Oil On American Soil Then All Of The Middle East. The Only Problem Is Liberals Like Obama Want To Protect The Environment Over People Going Into Debt Because Of The Oil Prices. if We Drill In The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge Or Anwr (an - Wor). If We Drill There Then We Can Set Our Own Prices For Ourselves And Stop Using Foreign Oil. You See What. Opec (the Oil Producing Countries) Control The Flow Of Oil So That They Make More Money From The Non Producing Countries. And When You Control The Supply Of Oil You Control The Price. And It Is The Foreign Market Of Oil That Is Going Up. Now Mccain Want To Open Up Drilling On Our Soil To Help The American People Out. But The Dems Want To Use The National Oil Reserve. The Reserve That Is The 60 Day Reserve That The Country Would Need To Survive If Something Ever Happens. Then Mccain Want To Take The Tax On Gas Away For A Temporary Time And Obama Says That It Wouldn't Work. It Is Just Craziness.

no.

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 07-22-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

no.

Why you put a bold and text to say NO?
I am talking about Alaska State. The government say no because it's wildfire.
If you disagree with me. That's fine! I am not going to debate with you over political.

Foxrac · 07-22-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinky678

We here is what is going on. We have more oil on American soil then all of the middle east. The only problem is liberals like obama want to protect the environment over people going into debt because of the oil prices. If we drill in the arctic national wildlife refuge or ANWR (an - wor). If we drill there then we can set our own prices for ourselves and stop using foreign oil. You see what. OPEC (the oil producing countries) control the flow of oil so that they make more money from the non producing countries. And when you control the supply of oil you control the price. And it is the foreign market of oil that is going up. Now McCain want to open up drilling on our soil to help the American people out. But the dems want to use the national oil reserve. The reserve that is the 60 day reserve that the country would need to survive if something ever happens. Then McCain want to take the tax on gas away for a temporary time and obama says that it wouldn't work. It is just craziness.

It show like you had no heart with polar bear? It wouldn't work out to stop increase of gas price because oil in ANWR isn't big as in Canada or Saudi Arabia, if completely or majority replaced by import oil and will run out in less than 5 years then you will struck with import oil forever until oil is lasts to go.

I don't recommended about drilling in ANWR, it wouldn't help to cut the gas price, if anyone said drilling in ANWR or offshore to cut the gas price is myth, gas price will not going down anymore, we need looking at other energy source or alternative fuel, it looks like many Americans don't understand about global warming and CO2 issue, same goes to China and India.

Remember, Canada isn't member of OPEC and we got #1 biggest oil import from Canada, they use world market to compete against OPEC.

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 07-22-2008, 02:07 PM

Yeah I do heart about Polar Bears. Do you believe in Global Warming?

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Originally Posted by Pacman

It show like you had no heart with polar bear? It wouldn't work out to stop increase of gas price because oil in ANWR isn't big as in Canada or Saudi Arabia, if completely or majority replaced by import oil and will run out in less than 5 years then you will struck with import oil forever until oil is lasts to go.

I don't recommended about drilling in ANWR, it wouldn't help to cut the gas price, if anyone said drilling in ANWR or offshore to cut the gas price is myth, gas price will not going down anymore, we need looking at other energy source or alternative fuel, it looks like many Americans don't understand about global warming and CO2 issue, same goes to China and India.

Remember, Canada isn't member of OPEC and we got #1 biggest oil import from Canada, they use world market to compete against OPEC.

Foxrac · 07-22-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ~♥~Pinky~♥~

Yeah I do heart about Polar Bears. Do you believe in Global Warming?

Yup, I do believe in global warming.

I had studied alot about global warming, increase of CO2 emission would cause global warming to worse, that where USA, China and India are using CO2 alot everyday, that cause ice and glacier to melting as sea level is increasing and sea level is still increasing since 1979, when it getting worse then Miami, New Orleans, Tokyo, London, NYC, Amsterdam, Hong Kong, Bay area (SF metro) and some major cities would be flooded and many people have to move, rebuild in other place that's where very above than closer to sea level. Temperature and heat wave are increase during global warming too.
Global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sea level rise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If we can't fix it then world would be in very big screw up.

When ice are gone then polar bear can be dying and become extinct.

For more info and prediction about global warming, just watch movie called An Inconvenient Truth.

orione1even · 07-22-2008, 04:04 PM

LOL!!!

I work for Obama from time to time. I love all you guys!!!

Byrdie714 · 07-22-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~♥~Pinky~♥~

Why you put a bold and text to say NO?
I am talking about Alaska State. The government say no because it's wildfire.
If you disagree with me. That's fine! I am not going to debate with you over political.

No. Haven't we learned from our lesson from getting oil in Alaska? Remember what happend the last time? The oil was pumped in from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez and loaded onto a tanker. The tanker ran aground and caused the worst oil spill in our nation's history.

If you want to drill oil--drill it in North Dakota, E. Montana and Texas. They already have the wells there to begin with....

Cheri · 07-22-2008, 04:12 PM

Reba. Candidates always attack and criticizes each other. The people of United States really want a president that will commit their duty as a president, not based on their personality. So therefore McClain is allow to criticize Obama anytime he wants.

Jiro · 07-22-2008, 07:10 PM

Drilling in ANWR makes absolutely NO sense and serves NO economical relief. If we start drilling in ANWR now, it will takes several years for functional oil rig and infrastructure to be set up. Also - it will HARDLY make any tiny relief for us at all.

Drilling in ANWR is economically, financially, and environmentally STUPID. I'd support drilling in ANWR if it has TONS TONS TONS of oils that would produce even 1/4 of Middle Eastern oil. The amount of oil we have in Alaska is about 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000001% of Middle Eastern oil so it's not worth destroying our last beautiful Alaskan wildlife.

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~♥~Pinky~♥~ Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,735	We here is what is going on. We have more oil on American soil then all of the middle east. The only problem is liberals like obama want to protect the environment over people going into debt because of the oil prices. If we drill in the arctic national wildlife refuge or ANWR (an - wor). If we drill there then we can set our own prices for ourselves and stop using foreign oil. You see what. OPEC (the oil producing countries) control the flow of oil so that they make more money from the non producing countries. And when you control the supply of oil you control the price. And it is the foreign market of oil that is going up. Now McCain want to open up drilling on our soil to help the American people out. But the dems want to use the national oil reserve. The reserve that is the 60 day reserve that the country would need to survive if something ever happens. Then McCain want to take the tax on gas away for a temporary time and obama says that it wouldn't work. It is just craziness. __________________

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07-22-2008, 01:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 4,822	I don't know about Obama's criticism but we all know about McCain's infamous "100 years war" which drew a huge criticism. He's a fool.

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Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 16,420	Some of Obama's associates: Rashid Khalidi William Ayres Tony Rezko Rashid Khalidi: PLO Member & Obama Mentor : NO QUARTER

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orione1even Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 137	LOL!!! I work for Obama from time to time. I love all you guys!!!

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Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 20,755	Reba. Candidates always attack and criticizes each other. The people of United States really want a president that will commit their duty as a president, not based on their personality. So therefore McClain is allow to criticize Obama anytime he wants. __________________

07-22-2008, 07:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 4,822	Drilling in ANWR makes absolutely NO sense and serves NO economical relief. If we start drilling in ANWR now, it will takes several years for functional oil rig and infrastructure to be set up. Also - it will HARDLY make any tiny relief for us at all. Drilling in ANWR is economically, financially, and environmentally STUPID. I'd support drilling in ANWR if it has TONS TONS TONS of oils that would produce even 1/4 of Middle Eastern oil. The amount of oil we have in Alaska is about 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000001% of Middle Eastern oil so it's not worth destroying our last beautiful Alaskan wildlife.