Obama vs McCain: Race for Ultimate President! - Page 7

Pinky · 07-31-2008, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Whoa, Babyface, Pinky was just asking, that's all. Quit jumping out making Pinky look like stupid.

Jillio think babyface is funny! They are mean!

Hwy99 · 07-31-2008, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ~♥~Pinky~♥~

Jillio think babyface is funny! They are mean!

Agreed.

Pinky · 07-31-2008, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Agreed.

Thank you for agree!

Hwy99 · 07-31-2008, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ~♥~Pinky~♥~

Thank you for agree!

No problemo

**Liebling:-)))** · 07-31-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Just because someone has military experience, it doesn't mean they're a "warmonger."

You misinterpreted my post. I never say that military experience has do with warmonger. I only said that his war experience/war hero is not a qualification for the candidate president and explain why I beleive what candidate president is about, mean is for economy, healthcare, care of people, country, etc, not warmonger... which mean is President is not a warmonger...

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That's an insulting stereotype.

I see different... I would agree that it´s an insult if I label war supporters or troops as a warmonger but it´s not an insult if I say that McCain or Bush is a warmonger because it´s fact that they try to start a war, not war supporters and troops ... McCain obsess the war issues and plan to do something with Iran and Russia...

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In fact, people who have experienced war are more likely to avoid starting wars because they understand what war is like. But if war is necessary, they know what to do.

Yes I know. Many people beleive in protect our countries against terrorists, not start to attack other countries.

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McCain believes in peace and freedom also. Sometimes war is the only way to get or maintain freedom.

If you mean Iraq, then I respectfully disagree. Did you know McCain deny to understand that Americans don't want to be in Iraq for 100 years either its a peaceful place or not?

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"Quitting" and "peace" aren't the same thing.

I never say anything or compare quitting with peace but peace and freedom.

Babyface · 07-31-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Whoa, Babyface, Pinky was just asking, that's all. Quit jumping out making Pinky look like stupid.

im not making anyone look stupid, that would be hard for me too do since the only person I really poke fun of is myself, since I know poking fun of others is really mean I never said pinky was stupid

Hwy99 · 08-01-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyface

im not making anyone look stupid, that would be hard for me too do since the only person I really poke fun of is myself, since I know poking fun of others is really mean I never said pinky was stupid

Sorry, just forget about it okay? Let's move on

**Reba** · 08-01-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

...If you mean Iraq, then I respectfully disagree....

I didn't say Iraq. I'm talking about any country that wants freedom. Without war and bloodshed the United States of America would not have become free from England.

If you want to believe that Iraq could have become free of Saddam Hussein's control without any bloodshed, be my guest.

Babyface · 08-01-2008, 02:58 PM

either one I wished theyed talk about the frigging gas prices

**Chase** · 08-01-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

His war experience/war hero is not a qualification for the candidate president.

Again, silly lack of any logic from one who obviously dislikes the U.S., even though employed by it. It's known as "biting the hand that feeds you."

Naturally a strong, experienced candidate is wrong for such a mindset, and an inexperienced showboat kissing up to Europeans who want a weak U.S. is the best person.

Of course, that's just an opinion founded in the events of world history and currect events, not personal envy.

PowerON · 08-01-2008, 03:38 PM

McCain have strong vote from here.

Hear that Obama is gonna to make some raise on tax to recovery the debt. *shurg*
I would like to know it would help US to fix but since of gas are high and business wouldn't appreciate that problem.

**Foxrac** · 08-01-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

McCain have strong vote from here.

Hear that Obama is gonna to make some raise on tax to recovery the debt. *shurg*
I would like to know it would help US to fix but since of gas are high and business wouldn't appreciate that problem.

Obama will gonna levying more tax on rich people or upper class families but low and most of middle class families are unaffected.

For gas price, I had already explained in other thread.

PowerON · 08-01-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

He will gonna levying more tax on rich people or upper class families but low and most of middle class families are unaffected.

For gas price, I had already explained in other thread.

Only thing it would be worry if raise more tax on high-class. Then there would be also AFFECT on job cut!

**Foxrac** · 08-01-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Only thing it would be worry if raise more tax on high-class. Then there would be also AFFECT on job cut!

Why you does care? Have a very huge debt is very bad and we aren't able to pay off in anytime.

I don't talking about compare with business and high class families, also job cut has been issue in last 7 years when USA was in recession since tax is still same as now, also rich people and high class families got more tax cut since low and middle class families aren't for much like that. Business tax is different from residential (low to high class families).

Look at Europe, tax is high and unemployment is under 10% in most developed countries then that's freaking not big deal, also high tax don't cause more job cut, not always.

Gemma · 08-01-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Obama will gonna levying more tax on rich people or upper class families but low and most of middle class families are unaffected.

For gas price, I had already explained in other thread.

How do you know that middle class wont be affected? I find it that middle class folks are the ones who are paying the greatest price.

**Foxrac** · 08-01-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemma

How do you know that middle class wont be affected? I find it that middle class folks are the ones who are paying the greatest price.

I got interpreted by my hearing friend about understand of link on Obama, however Heritage Foundation is really biased against Obama and just not understand about his plan to work, I said most of middle class families are unaffected by Obama plan since they paid enough taxes but some of them aren't, depends on how families would make income.

PowerON · 08-01-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Why you does care? Have a very huge debt is very bad and we aren't able to pay off in anytime.

I don't talking about compare with business and high class families, also job cut has been issue in last 7 years when USA was in recession since tax is still same as now, also rich people and high class families got more tax cut since low and middle class families aren't for much like that. Business tax is different from residential (low to high class families).

Look at Europe, tax is high and unemployment is under 10% in most developed countries then that's freaking not big deal, also high tax don't cause more job cut, not always.

Rich people is tend our source to get a job. That's my opinion. It may affect cut salary or benefit. Who know?

**Foxrac** · 08-01-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Rich people is tend our source to get a job. That's my opinion. It may affect cut salary or benefit. Who know?

Ok, I'm gonna left USA into huge debt, that's not my problem but hopefully, they don't screw my life up.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-04-2008, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I didn't say Iraq. I'm talking about any country that wants freedom. Without war and bloodshed the United States of America would not have become free from England.

If you want to believe that Iraq could have become free of Saddam Hussein's control without any bloodshed, be my guest.

How did Saddam Hussein threaten our freedom?

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-04-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chase

Again, silly lack of any logic from one who obviously dislikes the U.S., even though employed by it. It's known as "biting the hand that feeds you."

Naturally a strong, experienced candidate is wrong for such a mindset, and an inexperienced showboat kissing up to Europeans who want a weak U.S. is the best person.

Of course, that's just an opinion founded in the events of world history and currect events, not personal envy.

Excuse me your ignorance and denial are showing again.

I'm not here to belittle your POV when you see different as me.

I will respect if you beleive that the war experience is mainly important for candidate president than economy, healthcare, environment, country to focus when I see different as you.

To me, we need knowledge and experience to improve our country, not focus just war experience and oil drilling. McCain has the problem with lack of economic knowledge which is scary.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-04-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemma

How do you know that middle class wont be affected? I find it that middle class folks are the ones who are paying the greatest price.

It won't affect you if your annual income is under $250,000.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-04-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Only thing it would be worry if raise more tax on high-class. Then there would be also AFFECT on job cut!

Don't you know that many Americans are worried about the US's economy and job rates at present time?

I don't understand why the people are concern over taxes issues more than economy, heathcare, etc. There're high taxes in Europe and Canada, we get contribute what we need. The poor people get social assistance.

If you want to agree with McCain which mean that rich people would getting richer and spend US taxes on war, drilling oil? There're highest taxes in Europe countries and Canada but we doing fine with economies and we are happy that way we are because we want better healthcare and education, improve family welfare than worry about war issues...

**Cheri** · 08-04-2008, 07:34 AM

I aren't voting for either of them, I am going to withdraw out of election this year.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

How did Saddam Hussein threaten our freedom?

Iraq has long history of dictatorship, many citizens in Iraq want be same freedom as USA does, Bush and majority of congress approved the invasion of Iraq in 2002 to remove of dictatorship, restore the system to old time (like repeal of death penalty for gay people) and other reasons, also some of reason could be from Bush's father as well.

Iran and Sudan doesn't respect our country, both of them need be fixed with their system.

**Cheri** · 08-04-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

How did Saddam Hussein threaten our freedom?

Not our freedom, but the freedom of Iraqi society; The threat comes from Saddam. Saddam had a long time history of aggression toward his people in his country. While America took him out, We should now focus on getting Osama bin Laden for the attacked on America of Sept. 11th before he passed on.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-04-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Iraq has long history of dictatorship, many citizens in Iraq want be same freedom as USA does, Bush and majority of congress approved the invasion of Iraq in 2002 to remove of dictatorship, restore the system to old time (like repeal of death penalty for gay people) and other reasons, also some of reason could be from Bush's father as well.

Iran and Sudan doesn't respect our country, both of them need be fixed with their system.

Yes I know what and how Saddam did to his own people. Bush freed Iraqis from Saddam which is a great... I do not against it because Iraqi want freedom like our countries. The question, I asked Reba about accord her post "If you want to believe that Iraq could have become free of Saddam Hussein's control without any bloodshed, be my guest." how did Saddam threaten our freedom because Saddam is dead or he didn't even threaten our countries when he was alive.

Well, US support Saddam to attack Iran during Reagon's time (Iraq-Iran war) and then US support Kuwait to attack Iraq... again attack Iraq for free Iraqis... after Saddam's arrest and execution then again attack Iraq...

How Iran and Sudan do not respect our country?

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-04-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Not our freedom, but the freedom of Iraqi society;

Yes, it's an exactly on my point. See my post to Pacman...

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The threat comes from Saddam. Saddam had a long time history of aggression toward his people in his country. While America took him out, We should now focus on getting Osama bin Laden for the attacked on America of Sept. 11th before he passed on.

I didn't see your post as I responsed Pacman's post. See my response post to his post.

PowerON · 08-04-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Don't you know that many Americans are worried about the US's economy and job rates at present time?

I don't understand why the people are concern over taxes issues more than economy, heathcare, etc. There're high taxes in Europe and Canada, we get contribute what we need. The poor people get social assistance.

If you want to agree with McCain which mean that rich people would getting richer and spend US taxes on war, drilling oil? There're highest taxes in Europe countries and Canada but we doing fine with economies and we are happy that way we are because we want better healthcare and education, improve family welfare than worry about war issues...

Rich people tend support local stores while middle to low income seek for cheap to buy from big corp such as Wal-Mart or whatever. Keep thing weird is good.

**Foxrac** · 08-04-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes I know what and how Saddam did to his own people. Bush freed Iraqis from Saddam which is a great... I do not against it because Iraqi want freedom like our countries. The question, I asked Reba about accord her post "If you want to believe that Iraq could have become free of Saddam Hussein's control without any bloodshed, be my guest." how did Saddam threaten our freedom because Saddam is dead or he didn't even threaten our countries when he was alive.

Well, US support Saddam to attack Iran during Reagon's time (Iraq-Iran war) and then US support Kuwait to attack Iraq... again attack Iraq for free Iraqis... after Saddam's arrest and execution then again attack Iraq...

How Iran and Sudan do not respect our country?

Don't you pay attention to news, media and wikipedia? Iran and Sudan are our enemies, just for USA and possibly UK but NOT in your country, also Iran president was mocking at us about gay issue, he stated about no gay people in Iran, that PISSED us off, I'm VERY unacceptable about what he said against our country, also Sudan has dictatorship and doesn't recognize on other culture than just for muslim, alot of non-muslim people are left Sudan and they don't support us either.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-04-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Don't you pay attention to news, media and wikipedia? Iran and Sudan are our enemies, just for USA and possibly UK but NOT in your country, also Iran president was mocking at us about gay issue, he stated about no gay people in Iran, that PISSED us off, I'm VERY unacceptable about what he said against our country, also Sudan has dictatorship and doesn't recognize on other culture than just for muslim, alot of non-muslim people are left Sudan and they don't support us either.

Yes I know... and have read about Iran and Sudan but I want to ask either they threaten your country/freedom or not... It's what I want to ask about.

I has to honest with you that Iran also mock our country, too because we have gay rights here... All what we do is ignore their stupidity remark... We laughed at him because we all know that there're many gays around in Iran... and hide...

Well, we have no opinion about Sudan and Iran but accept their different culture as long as they did not threaten our country which is a great. We would do something if they hurt their own people.

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