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Old 02-14-2008, 10:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
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To each their own, huh?
Yup, I was means it's your choice to support penalty death, that won't bother me.

Every people have different opinion, sorry if my post was confused.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:18 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I'd wish that to change, of course, but it's better than -killing- them.
You don't want the Gitmo prisoners to be killed because they are Muslim and it's against your religion and yet you are pro-choice as you outed yourself as pro-choice on the abortion thread......

http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates...tml#post917389

Sounds like a contradiction to me......

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Old 02-21-2008, 11:11 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Because taking a life is taking a life, even that of a killers. You stoop down to their level.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:15 AM   #34 (permalink)
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You can't use violence to solve violence. It is a violation of both my faith and, by requirement, my views on morality.

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Old 02-21-2008, 11:16 AM   #35 (permalink)
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You don't want the Gitmo prisoners to be killed because they are Muslim and it's against your religion and yet you are pro-choice as you outed yourself as pro-choice on the abortion thread......

http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates...tml#post917389

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He's pro-choice? oh boy..
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:51 AM   #36 (permalink)
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how about putting them to the american prison? jk.. well, i'm not gonna go for death penalty or to have life in prison.. as long as they know what they're doing to the prisoners. the prisoners deffy doesn't belong anywhere on this earth except a cell. if its death penalty.. well, then be it. its an easy way out. but goes both ways.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:36 PM   #37 (permalink)
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You don't want the Gitmo prisoners to be killed because they are Muslim and it's against your religion and yet you are pro-choice as you outed yourself as pro-choice on the abortion thread. Sounds like a contradiction to me.
Woah, woah. I don't believe in killing people because -they are human beings, just like me-. That said, if my objection was only to killing Muslims (It is not!) those people would NOT be in that category. Those men awaiting execution at Gitmo are NOT Muslim. They took my religon and perverted it into something hardly recognisable as an EXCUSE for their disgusting actions. Don't get that one wrong.

And... this has nothing to do with my views on abortion. I support a woman's right to abortion well pre-viability, which is a far cry from supporting execution of breathing human beings.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:17 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I agree with Aleser.

I am just following one what I think is God's (and many different beliefs) most sacred law, "Thou shall not murder (kill)."

To me, take a life of human being, regardless of their background is one of worst crimes a human can ever commit.

Only time I believe it's okay is in self-defense.

Those killers were already caught, so I don't feel comfortable have my hands turned red just because they are killers. It just feels too much like I am god myself deciding who shall live and who shall die.
As Aleser have said, if I killed those bad guy in name of justice, then I am no worse than those guys.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:21 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I agree with Aleserīs post #37.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:24 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:23 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Silentwolfdog-- God believes in Justice and Righteous, after all that's His law.

We have laws here too, Our law permits death penalty, and Gitmo prisoners deserved the death penalty of murdering so many people.

And Byrdie714, Those Gitmo prisoners are not only Muslims but Christians too, but majority are Muslims.
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
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What if the shoe was on the other foot and it was one of your relatives that was killed by these guys?
And you never answered my question which was what if it was one of your relatives that were killed by these guys?
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:36 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Silentwolfdog-- God believes in Justice and Righteous, after all that's His law.

We have laws here too, Our law permits death penalty, and Gitmo prisoners deserved the death penalty of murdering so many people.

And Byrdie714, Those Gitmo prisoners are not only Muslims but Christians too, but majority are Muslims.
Somewhere in the bible that says, we can kill the human who killed the human because that murderer "violated" God's image? Not sure....
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:32 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Somewhere in the bible that says, we can kill the human who killed the human because that murderer "violated" God's image? Not sure....
In old test, it is known as "eye for eye" but in new test, Jesus changed and revolutionized the love for others - "turn the other cheek" and "let he who without sin cast the first stone"
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:14 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't believe in "an eye for an eye" philosophy. I am not going down to their level. I can't live forever knowing I have killed a human being through a death penalty just because s/he did something bad.
Forgiveness is something all of us have to learn and live with. I do believe that's what God also want from us. Or otherwise hate and bitterness will just live on.

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Old 02-25-2008, 07:45 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I must be in the minority then.

I believe in the death penalty. As I asked in my previous post and no one is willing to answer is what if it was one of your relatives were killed by these mad men?

Then you would advocate the government seeking the death penalty.

We are not stooping down to their level, we are seeking justice for the victims of the tragedy-- all 3000 of them. All innocent.

I hope these guys fry.....
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Old 02-25-2008, 01:01 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I must be in the minority then.

I believe in the death penalty. As I asked in my previous post and no one is willing to answer is what if it was one of your relatives were killed by these mad men?

Then you would advocate the government seeking the death penalty.

We are not stooping down to their level, we are seeking justice for the victims of the tragedy-- all 3000 of them. All innocent.

I hope these guys fry.....
As an answer for your question. I will be biting my hand, but no I do not wish death penalty on those guys if that happened to my family as well. That's too much like a revenge rather than justice. As I have said before, I can't live forever knowing I have killed those guys as well. I am not going to corrupt my own soul just for the sake of revenge. And I will only leave their fate to God.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:01 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:07 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I must be in the minority then.

I believe in the death penalty. As I asked in my previous post and no one is willing to answer is what if it was one of your relatives were killed by these mad men?

Then you would advocate the government seeking the death penalty.

We are not stooping down to their level, we are seeking justice for the victims of the tragedy-- all 3000 of them. All innocent.

I hope these guys fry.....
That question was answered, Byrdie. I myself was one of those answering.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:54 PM   #50 (permalink)
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That question was answered, Byrdie. I myself was one of those answering.
My comment was over 3 months ago.....
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My comment was over 3 months ago.....
Revived thread....oops!
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:03 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I disagree that the system is using violence to eradicate/punish, etc it; there are behaviors exhibited that are so egregious, and heinous that those who exhibit same are not fit to live amongst us. I, personally, have no problem casting the first stone, as it were, in this specific arena. Mail me that remote switch and at midnight, there will be one less sub-human on earth! Lol....
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:39 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Hmmmm, what's this about, "reviving"?
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:51 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Most of you know that I am a staunch believer in death penalty. However.... due to government's improper and secretive proceeding, I cannot support death penalty for Gitmo prisoners.
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My comment was over 3 months ago.....
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:31 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Got anything productive to add to the discussion? Especially since Byrdie and I have already addressed our issue and put it to rest?
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