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PowerON · 03-19-2008, 03:56 PM

I can't allow Hillary have power control in USA, I shall see blood on my bills. sobbing.

PuyoPiyo · 03-19-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

I can't allow Hillary have power control in USA, I shall see blood on my bills. sobbing.

I hope not too!

Cheri · 03-19-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

I can't allow Hillary have power control in USA, I shall see blood on my bills. sobbing.

That's your opinion, But I'm not very confident with Obama's position, I believe he would be a mistake as a President. I had the same feelings as of what I thought of Bush.

Angel · 03-19-2008, 04:52 PM

I'm behind on the news but who's winning so far?

Reba · 03-19-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

McCain is sight different.

However, the strong disagree is Huckabee who want to ban same-sex marriage while all other are against on ban Amendment

Huckabee's not running now. He quit.

PuyoPiyo · 03-19-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel

I'm behind on the news but who's winning so far?

Obama got more delegates compare to Hilary right now.

Oddball · 03-19-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Well, you can't "buy" the story from Obama either because he keeps changing his story.

Obama's speech didn't clear up his position. I think it made things worse.

Yes. That's why I refuse to vote for him because I feel that he is not a right person for presidential material.

Cowpuppy · 03-19-2008, 08:22 PM

Many people made thier decision to vote Obama long ago due to his smarmy rhetoric. The purpose of the debates and campaign is for voters to get a chance to know the canditates stance. So many Obama people been arguing for months already and we did not really know the person.
This controversy is the exact kind where you get to know the truth. The kind of thing that wrecks a campaign. You should all take it in and think very hard before you keep on fighting for Obama. It's ok to change your mind.
We have at last stood up to the terrrorist after being ridiculed as chicken since Vietnam. One important thing is that Obama should never be telling the ememy what our plans are. Never tell them when you are leaving etc. War requires secrecy, but Obama using it for his own personal political gain...a form of treason. Hillary understood secrecy need. Why she plays cards close to her vest. Savvy. A better politician. We need a politician...not a hateful rev lover.
And that revdude speaks treason. Open your eyes.

PowerON · 03-19-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Huckabee's not running now. He quit.

yes, how unfortunately

He would be one heck christian leader

PowerON · 03-19-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

That's your opinion, But I'm not very confident with Obama's position, I believe he would be a mistake as a President. I had the same feelings as of what I thought of Bush.

Hillary: "I support abortion right!"
Obama: "Yeah, what she said"
Hillary: "I want get more money from you!"
Obama: "Don't listen to that crazy bitching, Bush's tax rocks!"

Cowpuppy · 03-24-2008, 10:05 AM

Obama wants it both ways. He wants you to believe he is this very nice unifier....well we are seeing that he is like all the rest....getting nasty...that is politics hardball....if he couldn't play with the big dogs he should have stayed off the porch.....reality is that he only wanted a civilized campaign because he had a serious weakness once Rev. Wright scenerio was uncovered....it was his secret....all of his speeches brush off the topic and delve into some other smarmy preacher talk. Off topic. Because he has issues.
That big speech last week about race. He avoided the issue of Reverend Wright.
So....what I want to know is.....ok Barack....you are half white, too......so why do I only hear you preaching to us white folk and others nonblack about the black anger etc and need to unify.....but why do I not hear you preaching to the black people about white anger....you sit in this Rev Wright church and listen to vile and don't call him on it. I think Obama's wife insist he remain in the church....she is racist and going to insist Obama drag up shyt if he prez. Garbage. Secrecy. These people hate. Obama was hiding this secret. No guts to leave or stand up to wife.
Richardson traitor....he claims superdelegates will have to follow will of the people...and yet Clinton won his state of New Mexico and he gave his superdelegate vote to Obama. That's called talking out your butt.

XBGMER · 03-24-2008, 08:51 PM

PLEASE, Don't take my post too personal

This remind me of movie "DUMBO'AMA"..

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Originally Posted by Reba

What kind of details do you want?

OK. In my opinion, Obama's speech proved that his words can't be trusted. He changed his story yet again.

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Originally Posted by Reba

Well, you can't "buy" the story from Obama either because he keeps changing his story.
Obama's speech didn't clear up his position. I think it made things worse.

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Yup, not enough detail to me too.

I feel that Reba has brought up and want us to change our way to not support Obama anymore.

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Originally Posted by Reba

Didn't you catch Obama's speech yesterday? It was all over the news.

Rev. Wright's "story" has been hot on the news all week. His church even sells DVD's of his rants.

Check it out:

Newsmax.com - Obama Attended Hate America Sermon

FOXNews.com - How Should Obama Deal With Controversial Pastor? - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor

FOXNews.com - Dick Morris on Impact of Obama Speech - America's Election HQ

FOXNews.com - Obama Speaks on Rev. Wright and Race in America - Bill O’Reilly | The O’Reilly Factor

Obama Web Site Still Carries New Black Panther Party Endorsement - America’s Election HQ

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Why would he become a president if he hate America?

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Originally Posted by Reba

You don't mind that Obama's spiritual adviser for 20 years is a profane racist who hates white people, Jews, and America?

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

*nods* Same here. McCain does not inspire me at all, hope he didn't win! And yupp of course, I would vote for same-sex marriage

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I have read some of Jeremiah Wright's comments. They were horrible. I can't believe a former Pastor would even talk this way.

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Well, That is hard choice... I like both Hillary and Obama. Im not too sure which one I should vote...

M-

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Originally Posted by Reba

What do you think about Obama's connection to Rev. Jeremiah Wright?

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Originally Posted by Cheri

If you don't want Hillary Clinton, then do not vote for her. (sitting there and complain is pathetic.)

PowerOn- calling us idiots for voting for Hillary Clinton is an insult so watch your mouth.

I support Hillary Clinton, on many of her issues, increase criminal sentencing those who committed hate crimes, moving our troops out of Iraq, health care for all children who doesn't have any health care, improving schools and most of all her helping children has always been the center of Hillary's goals, so whenever it comes to children, that person has my vote.

Cheri, How hillary fix school for improve? Will Hillary provide Health care for all childern who doesn't have health cares? But Let me tell you, why USA provided directly illegal immigrants who doesn't have any health cares instead of cizitens.. what say you?

Reba, I am not support Obama, however Wright is a right!

ScubaladyTx, have you make up which one of Obama or Hillary you choice right now?

Cheri, Why Clinton was invited Billy Graham in the white house who was anti-semtic slurs? Mm..

PuyoPiyo, Obama is an anti-same sex marriage, don't you know that? In reality life: Most blacks are very loathe same sex peoples.

Reba, Don't accurse wright what he had comments about this. what about other white pastors who had racist speech against this? Mitty is Mormon, he attend that LDS Church or the Mormon Church. Mormon doctrine was racist!, what says you?

PuyoPiyo, Can you explain me why His wife revealed obama supports "I grew up never have to loyal america but I started to be proud of country" ...? Her speech is really get on my nerve! *itch over body to head*

Reba, What they made you anger over their comments? Because they are the vemon racist?

Pacman, Here whom isnt try to detour your way nor mind off from obama.

Reba, Many blacks don't buy his stories. Obama is fully B.S. because He is a tricker like his father is a liar, Once liar alway being a liar!

Reba, I can see that his way. Not begin, He had changed his mind as explain Someone on talk show asked him, "will you running for president?", Obama, I am not ready. Later He wanted to running for america of US president. I can see him is weakness and confusion for who he is. I already recogized him being the trick like Nigeran character!

Oh Obama ask american " CHANGE WE BELIEVE ". He can't change america for overnight as four years since 500 long years! Impossbile! but He wanted supporters accpet his bad habitual changable for something else himself. that why he is change mind fro and back on and on and on.. He is a master of confusion and deceptive!

PuyoPiyo · 03-24-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XBGMER

PuyoPiyo, Obama is an anti-same sex marriage, don't you know that? In reality life: Most blacks are very loathe same sex peoples.

Well what Obama said about the GLBT issues from Wikipedia.

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In mid-late October 2007, Obama came under fire from the Human Rights Campaign and others for a South Carolina gospel music campaign tour that featured singer Donnie McClurkin, who states that he is "ex-gay" and that homosexuality is a "curse [that runs against] the intention of God."[27][28] Obama said in response that, "I strongly believe that African Americans and the LGBT community must stand together in the fight for equal rights. And so I strongly disagree with Reverend McClurkin's views."[28] While not replacing McClurkin, the campaign added a gay minister to the tour.[27]

Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's just that I would prefer to support Obama toward the GLBT issue ratherly than Hillary.

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PuyoPiyo, Can you explain me why His wife revealed obama supports "I grew up never have to loyal america but I started to be proud of country" ...? Her speech is really get on my nerve! *itch over body to head*

I don't know what to say about this..

Since I have been hearing so much accusing Obama as liar, I guess I am going for Gravel instead for my first time voting this year because he support legalize marijuana, support same sex marriage, support anti-war, etc etc, but I doubt he will win anyway..

Presidential 2008 sucks I guess..

Foxrac · 03-25-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by XBGMER

PLEASE, Don't take my post too personal

This remind me of movie "DUMBO'AMA"..

Reba, I can see that his way. Not begin, He had changed his mind as explain Someone on talk show asked him, "will you running for president?", Obama, I am not ready. Later He wanted to running for america of US president. I can see him is weakness and confusion for who he is. I already recogized him being the trick like Nigeran character!

Oh Obama ask american " CHANGE WE BELIEVE ". He can't change america for overnight as four years since 500 long years! Impossbile! but He wanted supporters accpet his bad habitual changable for something else himself. that why he is change mind fro and back on and on and on.. He is a master of confusion and deceptive!

Ok, I'm not take your post so personal, either but just discuss about between black people and homosexual people, also some partly of your post are right.

There's no compare or worse on races, a lot of gay black people in Atlanta, Houston, NYC, Chicago and LA, that what I know about that after visited, that's true about majority (over 50%) of black people are against on homosexual people but some of them won't tell, unless if any crazy gay men who bother them, I'm not on their personal, mine is totally different from crazy gay men, I'm usually not discuss about gay related to other men if known as straight without any permission or give me a related topic, some straight people are support homosexual but still be striaght like some ADers here.

Your personal is much different than several of my black friends, it depends on their families and religions, same goes to other races, most of my families aren't support on homosexual except for my parent, some relatives but I had been rejected by few of my families, such as my grandma, she lost my respect in big time. All fundie Christians are against on gay people, that's more common in southeast USA, majority of whites in southeast USA are fundie Christians, also some part in midwest as well.

If Obama don't win in primary election then I would goes to Hillary, I dislike McCain due personal reasons.

Reba · 03-25-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

...All fundie Christians are against on gay people, that's more common in southeast USA, majority of whites in southeast USA are fundie Christians, also some part in midwest as well....

Christians aren't "against" gay people as individual human beings. Christians are against government support of the homosexual agenda to promote homosexuality as a normal and accepted behavior with special rights. Christians are also against the promotion of homosexuality in public schools.

I live in Southeast USA, and the majority of people here are NOT fundamental Christians.

Foxrac · 03-25-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Christians aren't "against" gay people as individual human beings. Christians are against government support of the homosexual agenda to promote homosexuality as a normal and accepted behavior with special rights. Christians are also against the promotion of homosexuality in public schools.

I live in Southeast USA, and the majority of people here are NOT fundamental Christians.

I don't said "Christian" in simple word then read carefully, I said about fundamental (fundie in short name) Christian, not including with liberal Christian but homosexual issue on Christian are very debate, unlike Muslim since they are against on homosexual at overall since Christian are just other story, just depends on group of Christian. You just listed about Fundie Christian that against on homosexual seems more than just enough.

I have few relatives that live in Southeast USA and been visit so many time, this place seems mostly fundie christian (I don't mention if majority because majority is just greater numbers than expected), conservative in surrounding suburb of city, such as Atlanta and Dallas. I don't know about your state that looks like that.

Edit, if you know that southeast USA isn't majority fundie Christian then that's fine with me but I'm not fully know about Christian related in this region, only got heard from some of my friends that who had been here before, I had some similar knowledge as they do.

ScubaladyTx · 03-25-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by XBGMER

PLEASE, Don't take my post too personal

This remind me of movie "DUMBO'AMA"..

Reba, I can see that his way. Not begin, He had changed his mind as explain Someone on talk show asked him, "will you running for president?", Obama, I am not ready. Later He wanted to running for america of US president. I can see him is weakness and confusion for who he is. I already recogized him being the trick like Nigeran character!

Oh Obama ask american " CHANGE WE BELIEVE ". He can't change america for overnight as four years since 500 long years! Impossbile! but He wanted supporters accpet his bad habitual changable for something else himself. that why he is change mind fro and back on and on and on.. He is a master of confusion and deceptive!

Ohhh, I havent deicded yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M-

PowerON · 03-25-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ScubaladyTx

Ohhh, I havent deicded yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M-

you don't need to worry anyway. Because McCain will be easy win in Texas as final vote.

No point. really.

"one vote make different" pffty.

Reba · 03-25-2008, 03:15 PM

Here's something for Hillary and Obama supporters to chew on:

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Finally, the Barack Obama campaign has found a big gun to help shoot down Hillary Rodham Clinton's self-proclaimed foreign policy experience. And he may be the wackiest gun of all: Sinbad, the actor, who has come out from under a rock to defend Obama in the war over foreign policy credentials.

Sinbad, along with singer Sheryl Crow, was on that 1996 trip to Bosnia that Clinton has described as a harrowing international experience that makes her tested and ready to answer a 3 a.m. phone call at the White House on day one, a claim for which she's taking much grief on the campaign trail.

Harrowing? Not that Sinbad recalls. He just remembers it being a USO tour to buck up the troops amid a much worse situation than he had imagined between the Bosnians and Serbs.

In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the "scariest" part of the trip was wondering where he'd eat next. "I think the only 'red-phone' moment was: 'Do we eat here or at the next place.'"

Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. "They said there might be sniper fire," Clinton said.

Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn't remember that, either.

"I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or 'Oh, God, I hope I'm going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.'"

In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."

Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"

As you may have guessed by now, Sinbad isn't supporting Clinton for president. He's an Obama guy. All because of Clinton.

"What got me about Hillary was her attitude of entitlement, like he messed up her plan, like he had no reason to be there," Sinbad said. "I got angry. I actually got angry! I said, 'I will be for Obama like never before.'"

Uh-Oh, Hillary: Sinbad Says Bosnia Trip Wasn't Exactly Dangerous | NewsBusters.org

Reba · 03-25-2008, 03:21 PM

How about this?

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Free Obama's White Grandmother

Andy Martin
Wednesday, March 28, 2007
CHICAGO -- If anyone else running for president locked his granny away and refused to allow her to be seen, would the media complain? You betcha.

But America's media have supinely allowed Barry Obama to pretend he has no white relatives. He has paraded his step-grandmother in Kenya, who never saw him until the 1980s, as his "granny," and locked the grandmother who actually raised him away in a closet.

Now, the Chicago Tribune reports "the Obama campaign declined to make [his white grandmother] available."

Is she sick? Not apparently. Bedridden? Hospitalized? Not apparently. She is the "Prisoner of Obama," and of Obama's racist myth that he is "Black" and not "Black and White."

What a disgrace.

And like whimpering puppies the media do not protest, complain or demand access.

Free Granny Madelyn Dunham [Obama]!

Barack Obama is one of the most racist politicians in America today. And we let him get away with it. We are afraid to confront Obama's reality, so we pretend that reality is not there, even though it is staring us in the face. Anyone remember "Miss Lillian?" Or Barbara Bush? Or Bill Clinton's mom, drinking, gambling card-playing gal that she was?

No one else but Obama could get away with pretending that his paternal grandfather's second or third or fourth wife was his "granny" when she wasn't.

Maybe that's the core of the antipathy between grandson and grandmother. Maybe that's why Obama's white grandmother is locked in purdah. She is offended that Obambi shamelessly highlights his black relatives in Kenya and, equally shamelessly, pretends his white relatives in Hawaii who actually raised him do not exist. It would hurt me.

No one could get away with pretending his white grandmother didn't exist except a media witch doctor such as Obama.

I have been attacking Obama for months because of his racist exclusion of his white relatives from the campaign trail.

We finally smoked out a picture of Obama's sister in the Chicago Tribune. She had said she was his "adviser" but refused to be photographed. Did she plan to enter the White house with a paper sack over her head?

But the "segregation" of Madelyn Dunham, Obama's white grandmother, and only real grandmother, has to be one of the cruelest and most mendacious political kidnappings this nation has ever seen.

Mrs. Dunham lives alone in the same apartment where she has lived for many years. Thus, it is reasonable to assume she is not incapacitated or an invalid.

Granny Dunham told the New York Times she was not well enough to speak, but in reality the Obama campaign maintains Stalinist "control" over potential interviewees. Obama's minions tried to control access to Obama's friend who was recently released from prison. Since he became a candidate for U.S. Senator, Obama has locked his white relative away in his racist closet.

Madelyn Dunham raised Barry Obama. It was probably her money that got him admitted to the prestigious Punahou School in Hawaii and paid his fees. Her efforts were formative, perhaps even more so than those of Obama's mother Ann, Madelyn's daughter. And yet Madelyn is being hidden away.

All because she is white and Barry Obama is a "black" candidate for president.

What a lie. What hypocrisy. What cowardice. And this man wants to sit in the Oval Office?

Ironically, locking Madelyn away is going to hurt Obama more with African-Americans than with whites. Whites delight in drinking Obama's Kool-Aid. Reason and reality will only gradually descend on them.

But blacks are a lot smarter than whites when it comes to slights, because they have experienced racial slights all their lives. Blacks know who Obama is, and they know how he is trying to "pass" and ignore his past.

During the decade when crack devastated the African-American community it was the "Black Grannies" who were and are the backbone of the community. These grandmothers helped stabilize disintegrating families ravaged by drugs. Black grannies will not like the fact that their white counterpart is being treated badly by Obama.

Black and white grandmothers? My guess is they will stick together on this one. They will be offended by the way Obama is treating the woman who really raised him and was the stabilizing factor in his life, Madelyn Dunham.

I repeat: Free Granny Madelyn Dunham [O

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Cowpuppy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On The Road Again Posts: 375	Many people made thier decision to vote Obama long ago due to his smarmy rhetoric. The purpose of the debates and campaign is for voters to get a chance to know the canditates stance. So many Obama people been arguing for months already and we did not really know the person. This controversy is the exact kind where you get to know the truth. The kind of thing that wrecks a campaign. You should all take it in and think very hard before you keep on fighting for Obama. It's ok to change your mind. We have at last stood up to the terrrorist after being ridiculed as chicken since Vietnam. One important thing is that Obama should never be telling the ememy what our plans are. Never tell them when you are leaving etc. War requires secrecy, but Obama using it for his own personal political gain...a form of treason. Hillary understood secrecy need. Why she plays cards close to her vest. Savvy. A better politician. We need a politician...not a hateful rev lover. And that revdude speaks treason. Open your eyes. Last edited by Cowpuppy; 03-19-2008 at 08:23 PM. Reason: spelling

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Cowpuppy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On The Road Again Posts: 375	Obama wants it both ways. He wants you to believe he is this very nice unifier....well we are seeing that he is like all the rest....getting nasty...that is politics hardball....if he couldn't play with the big dogs he should have stayed off the porch.....reality is that he only wanted a civilized campaign because he had a serious weakness once Rev. Wright scenerio was uncovered....it was his secret....all of his speeches brush off the topic and delve into some other smarmy preacher talk. Off topic. Because he has issues. That big speech last week about race. He avoided the issue of Reverend Wright. So....what I want to know is.....ok Barack....you are half white, too......so why do I only hear you preaching to us white folk and others nonblack about the black anger etc and need to unify.....but why do I not hear you preaching to the black people about white anger....you sit in this Rev Wright church and listen to vile and don't call him on it. I think Obama's wife insist he remain in the church....she is racist and going to insist Obama drag up shyt if he prez. Garbage. Secrecy. These people hate. Obama was hiding this secret. No guts to leave or stand up to wife. Richardson traitor....he claims superdelegates will have to follow will of the people...and yet Clinton won his state of New Mexico and he gave his superdelegate vote to Obama. That's called talking out your butt.