Obama Cheif's Anti-gay secret

**TXgolfer** · 06-15-2012, 01:52 PM

From a far left source even...

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In their quest to promote themselves as political tough guys, did Sen. Max Baucus and President Obama’s campaign manager Jim Messina just admit to both crafting one of the most homophobic ads in American history and possibly committing a crime? That’s the big question after new revelations buried in this week’s fluffy Businessweek profile of Messina.

Here’s the back story: In the annals of political television advertising, very few spots are so indelible as to be considered iconic, and almost all of those are national presidential ads, like the 1964 Johnson campaign’s “Daisy” spot; the 1988 Bush campaign’s racially charged “Revolving Door”; and the 2004 Swift Boat Veterans for Truth attacks on John Kerry’s war record. Arguably the only congressional ad to ever reach such rarefied air was the 2002 Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee spot against Montana Republican Senate nominee Mike Taylor.

Renowned in political circles, the ad set porno music to 20-year-old footage of a video from Taylor’s cosmetics business. The video showed Taylor in a leisure suit rubbing cream into another man’s face. As the spot faded to black, it showed Taylor then seeming to reach for the man’s crotch as a voice-over said “Mike Taylor — not the way we do business in Montana.”

Thanks to the deliberate choice of music, the footage of man-on-man physical contact and the voice-over message, the ad is considered the epitome of homophobic demagoguery — a spot ostensibly about Taylor’s Department of Education loans, but really designed to raise questions about Taylor’s sexuality in a culturally conservative state. Summarizing the national uproar over the ad, the Denver Post at the time noted that “only the most naive adult would miss the implication that Taylor is a homosexual” and that clearly “the supposedly inclusive Democrats deftly played on the right’s homophobia.”

When Taylor subsequently dropped out of the race, Baucus meekly defended some of the substance of the loan allegations in the ad. (Messina worked as Baucus’ chief of staff at the time.) However, he vigorously and repeatedly denied any involvement in the spot. It was a classic example of the tired old misdirect whereby a politician denies he has anything to do with a third-party attack on his opponent.

As the Billings Gazette reported at the time, Baucus “stressed he had nothing to do with the ad” and that “the party did its own research and produced the ad.” Baucus almost certainly issued such blanket denials both because he didn’t want to be tagged as an anti-gay bigot, and because even back then, before the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation, it was blatantly illegal for a candidate and his campaign to directly “coordinate” ads paid for by political party organizations like the DSCC. (As the ACLU noted at the time, under both pre- and post-McCain-Feingold FEC statutes and court rulings, independent expenditures must be “made without any coordination with a candidate’s campaign.”)

Now fast-forward to a key passage in this week’s fawning Businessweek profile of Messina:

Messina will go a long way to win, as (stories) from his Montana career suggest…

The other story involved his Republican challenger, a state senator named Mike Taylor, who was the target of an ad so devastating it got national attention. The ad charged Taylor with having embezzled student loans from a cosmetology school he’d owned in the 1980s. But its force lay in the music and imagery. Set to a porn soundtrack, it featured snippets of an old television ad for Taylor’s hair salon that showed the candidate clad in a medallioned, open-shirted disco outfit, massaging lotion into another man’s face, and then appearing to reach toward the man’s crotch, as a narrator intoned, “Not the way we do business in Montana.”

“Jim is tough,” Baucus says. “I’ll never forget when he showed me that ad. We were in Bozeman in a motel. The curtains were drawn. He said, ‘Max, what do you think?’ They were afraid I wasn’t going to like it. I loved it!”

So to review: To protect himself politically and legally, Baucus in 2002 insisted he knew nothing about — and had nothing to do with — the ad. Now in 2012, in his eagerness to promote his pal Messina, Baucus admits that, at minimum, he and Messina knew all about the ad — indeed, Businessweek explicitly credits Messina with being the architect of the ad, citing it as proof that he “will go a long way to win.” Likewise, Baucus now admits that he wasn’t unaware of the spot — on the contrary, he explicitly told his staff he “loved it.” Additionally, while the timing of the meeting Baucus details in comparison to the ad’s air date isn’t clear, Baucus’ comment about the secrecy of drawn curtains and his staff being “afraid” he wouldn’t like it begs us to ask if his campaign manager and staff quietly showed it to him in order to get his official prior approval for it to air on television.

Obama chief's anti-gay secret - 2012 Elections - Salon.com

WOW!

**TXgolfer** · 06-15-2012, 01:53 PM

Mods: Title typo... Thx

**TXgolfer** · 06-15-2012, 06:21 PM

More on Messina. This is the guy Obama picked to run his campaign....shows what Obama Is REALLY concerned with

Jim Messina, Obama's Enforcer | The Nation

**Foxrac** · 06-15-2012, 09:10 PM

This article seems mixed up.

It looks like you have trouble to spell c-h-i-e-f.

rolling7 · 06-15-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

This article seems mixed up.

It looks like you have trouble to spell c-h-i-e-f.

Come on Foxrac. Did you even read post #2? TXgolfer admit it was a typo, give him a break and play fair. Everyone here had made a typo.

**TXgolfer** · 06-15-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Come on Foxrac. Did you even read post #2? TXgolfer admit it was a typo, give him a break and play fair. Everyone here had made a typo.

Thx.....Not only did I admit it, I caught it before anyone commented. Some people just like to troll.

**Foxrac** · 06-15-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Come on Foxrac. Did you even read post #2? TXgolfer admit it was a typo, give him a break and play fair. Everyone here had made a typo.

I was just pulling his leg.

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Thx.....Not only did I admit it, I caught it before anyone commented. Some people just like to troll.

That's no different when you trolled me.

Bebonang · 06-18-2012, 09:24 AM

Let's beat Foxrac down for spelling the wrong word for Chief. LOL. Just like Rodney King.

What the point talking about Obama's Anti-Gay secret? This is personal but that is political. Why are you or anyone so against Obama just because he has different opinions than the conservatives? He should be respected no matter what he do or thought. So come on, give him a break. He has done as best he can as the president of the United States. Being the President is not an easy job and that is a lot of responsibly to trying to help United States. No one is perfect. So Foxrac, get a life and leave Obama alone.

C.C.Sinned · 06-18-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bebonang

Let's beat Foxrac down for spelling the wrong word for Chief. LOL. Just like Rodney King.

let's beat down bebonang for mistaking foxrac for txgolfer's spelling error

rockin'robin · 06-18-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by C.C.Sinned

let's beat down bebonang for mistaking foxrac for txgolfer's spelling error

...and saying for Foxrac to "get a life and leave Obamama alone"....

**Foxrac** · 06-18-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bebonang

Let's beat Foxrac down for spelling the wrong word for Chief. LOL. Just like Rodney King.

What the point talking about Obama's Anti-Gay secret? This is personal but that is political. Why are you or anyone so against Obama just because he has different opinions than the conservatives? He should be respected no matter what he do or thought. So come on, give him a break. He has done as best he can as the president of the United States. Being the President is not an easy job and that is a lot of responsibly to trying to help United States. No one is perfect. So Foxrac, get a life and leave Obama alone.

lol, I bet you are just kidding.

I'm big support of GLBT rights, however this article in OP doesn't make any sense.

**Foxrac** · 06-18-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

...and saying for Foxrac to "get a life and leave Obamama alone"....

I'm going report your post to Fox News.

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Bebonang Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manitoulin Island on Lake Huron in Canada Posts: 7,009	Let's beat Foxrac down for spelling the wrong word for Chief. LOL. Just like Rodney King. What the point talking about Obama's Anti-Gay secret? This is personal but that is political. Why are you or anyone so against Obama just because he has different opinions than the conservatives? He should be respected no matter what he do or thought. So come on, give him a break. He has done as best he can as the president of the United States. Being the President is not an easy job and that is a lot of responsibly to trying to help United States. No one is perfect. So Foxrac, get a life and leave Obama alone. __________________ I HAVE BEEN DEAF SINCE BIRTH, AND IT IS STILL AWESOME TO BE . (thumb up) (very happy)

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