National Defense Resources Preparedness - Obama's Executive Order - Page 2

**Jiro** · 05-30-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Such as.....DOMA....which Obama has time after time again stated he WON'T enforce this federal law (but you already knew that)

correction - he stated that he does not support it and won't defend it in the court but currently - it's still a law and it's enforced.

and DOMA is related to this thread..... how?

rolling7 · 05-30-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

correction - he stated that he does not support it and won't defend it in the court but currently - it's still a law and it's enforced.

and DOMA is related to this thread..... how?

"won't defend it" = won't enforce it (no matter how you spin it)

DOMA....related because YOU ASKED "such as"

**Jiro** · 05-30-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

"won't defend it" = won't enforce it (no matter how you spin it)

spin? I stick with facts. You should try it sometimes.

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Originally Posted by rolling7

DOMA....related because YOU ASKED "such as"

actually no. You started going off-topic at Post #10 which you admitted in Post #11. So why don't we go back to Post #7?

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Originally Posted by Jiro

who do you think who is responsible for national defense?

**Foxrac** · 05-30-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Such as.....DOMA....which Obama has time after time again stated he WON'T enforce this federal law (but you already knew that)

Obama stopped to defend DOMA in the court, not stop the enforce until finalized at US Supreme Court.

rolling7 · 05-30-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

spin? I stick with facts. You should try it sometimes.

actually no. You started going off-topic at Post #10 which you admitted in Post #11. So why don't we go back to Post #7?

Obama is in control of national defense.

And your post #7 shows your double standard.

Obama is in control of national federal law enforcement but your double standard will not allow you to say so.

**saywhatkid** · 05-30-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Here it is:

That is an order giving the President absolute and total control. Hello

can you say "Dictator"?

Can you say "Remedial reading level?" The part you highlighted clearly states that these various things are DELEGATED:

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...is delegated to the following agency heads:
(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.

**saywhatkid** · 05-30-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Obama is in control of national defense.

And your post #7 shows your double standard.

Obama is in control of national federal law enforcement but your double standard will not allow you to say so.

As he should be; especially if all you righties are gonna rip on him for the immigration issues.

**saywhatkid** · 05-30-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Jiro, I concede. Obama- unlike other brave Presidents -got rid of it, he does not want the responsibilities of being a real President. Each and every real President -even Bush -was willing to take each and all responsibilities of the office. Obama picks and choses.

Dictator Obama, the Muslim Kenyan that rules with an Nine Iron Fist. He don't need no stinking badge.

rolling7 · 05-30-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Can you say "Remedial reading level?" The part you highlighted clearly states that these various things are DELEGATED:

He who controls delegating is totally in control and responsible for those who are delegated to.

**saywhatkid** · 05-30-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

As he should be; especially if all you righties are gonna rip on him for the immigration issues.

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Originally Posted by rolling7

He who controls delegating is totally in control and responsible for those who are delegated to.

Way to "Rush" to his defense.

If he did nothing, you would complain. If he does something, you complain. He is the President, and he runs the show. Too bad you still haven't picked up on that. It has been nearly 4 years. The buck stops there, except when you righties spin it to suit your views.

He does nothing!

He does everything wrong!

He thinks he is the leader!

Good night.

rolling7 · 05-30-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Way to "Rush" to his defense.

If he did nothing, you would complain. If he does something, you complain. He is the President, and he runs the show. Too bad you still haven't picked up on that. It has been nearly 4 years. The buck stops there, except when you righties spin it to suit your views.

He does nothing!

He does everything wrong!

He thinks he is the leader!

Good night.

And good night to you. I'll be dreaming if another member actually believes your: "he runs the show." But I know that is a true fact.

**saywhatkid** · 05-31-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

And good night to you. I'll be dreaming if another member actually believes your: "he runs the show." But I know that is a true fact.

What is so difficult to understand? He is the elected leader of the USA. That means HE RUNS THINGS.

Frisky Feline · 05-31-2012, 03:21 PM

I think all of you need to stay down.

rolling7 · 05-31-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

What is so difficult to understand? He is the elected leader of the USA. That means HE RUNS THINGS.

Yes he does and I agree with you. I was just making a comment that there is another member who does NOT agree with us (at least according to that members posting).

**Jiro** · 05-31-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Yes he does and I agree with you. I was just making a comment that there is another member who does NOT agree with us (at least according to that members posting).

incorrect.

**saywhatkid** · 05-31-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Yes he does and I agree with you. I was just making a comment that there is another member who does NOT agree with us (at least according to that members posting).

There is a difference between running things (his job since he was elected) as opposed to not being elected by popular vote: (a.k.a. GWB) and being a dictator. I trust you can see through the biased crap and recognize that. Neither was a dictator, just trying to do their jobs the best they can. Sadly, both have failed, IMO.

rolling7 · 05-31-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

There is a difference between running things (his job since he was elected) as opposed to not being elected by popular vote: (a.k.a. GWB) and being a dictator. I trust you can see through the biased crap and recognize that. Neither was a dictator, just trying to do their jobs the best they can. Sadly, both have failed, IMO.

Your IMO is mine too. I can see that you understand that each and every POTUS is the one who "runs things" for each and every agency. Therefore he is not only in control of National Defense but National Law Enforcement also.

**Jiro** · 05-31-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Your IMO is mine too. I can see that you understand that each and every POTUS is the one who "runs things" for each and every agency. Therefore he is not only in control of National Defense but National Law Enforcement also.

let's see... Governor is in control of law enforcement within his state including all cities, countries, towns, etc, yes?

rolling7 · 05-31-2012, 10:20 PM

If his state passes laws that give him that authority, yes.

**Jiro** · 05-31-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

If his state passes laws that give him that authority, yes.

ah... then it's a no.

and also it's not even legal.

Steinhauer · 05-31-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Can you say "Remedial reading level?" The part you highlighted clearly states that these various things are DELEGATED:

And you do know who they report to?

P.S. Your comprehension kinda sucks.

**Jiro** · 05-31-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

And you do know who they report to?

P.S. Your comprehension kinda sucks.

ah... then clearly - this is not dictatorship

**Jiro** · 06-01-2012, 12:23 AM

Three presidents gather for Bush portrait unveiling - CNN.com

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"After three-and-a-half years in office and more gray hair, I have a deeper understanding of the challenges faced by the men before me, including President Bush," Obama said, adding that one truth is you can't make everybody happy.

rolling7 · 06-01-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

ah... then it's a no.

and also it's not even legal.

I've no idea whatsoever what this post means.

rolling7 · 06-01-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Three presidents gather for Bush portrait unveiling - CNN.com

And...this pat relates to this threads now?

**saywhatkid** · 06-01-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

And you do know who they report to?

P.S. Your comprehension kinda sucks.

And HE reports to the other 2 branches of US government, along with the voters, come November. I recall Congress is s split majority now. I would fully expect them to step in if there was an issue.

Hope you all are working on seeing him defeated rather than posting these news slants. I would be making signs, handing out flyers, writing political blogs, etc.

**Jiro** · 06-01-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

And...this pat relates to this threads now?

"After three-and-a-half years in office and more gray hair, I have a deeper understanding of the challenges faced by the men before me, including President Bush," Obama said, adding that one truth is you can't make everybody happy."

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