Arizona Secretary of State Wants to See Obama's Birth Certificate

rockin'robin · 05-19-2012, 05:51 PM

Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett wants you to know that he is not a birther, but he says he wants proof of Barack Obama's citizenship before putting his name on the Arizona ballot.

In a radio interview today, Bennett said he is just doing his job of making sure "that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking." He says he has been trying for eight weeks to get documents from Hawaii.

In a statement just released, Bennett says:

"First, I have been on the record since 2009 that I believe the President was born in Hawaii. I am not a birther. At the request of a constituent, I asked the state of Hawaii for a Verification in lieu of certified copy. We're merely asking them to officially confirm they have the President's birth certificate in their possession and are awaiting their response."

Matt Roberts, Bennett spokesman said in an email that Bennett had not asked for Romney's Michigan birth certificate because. "This was simply in response to some constituents asking us to ask Hawaii," he said.

The deadline to file for the ballott is Sept. 10 th.

Arizona Secretary of State Wants to See Obama's Birth Certificate - Yahoo! News

**Foxrac** · 05-19-2012, 06:45 PM

It looks like court will order Arizona to put Obama on ballot.

airportcop · 05-19-2012, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

It looks like court will order Arizona to put Obama on ballot.

And what facts do you base that on foxrac? I have not heard this and I am curious to see if I missed something or if this is just your opinion. Thanks

What the heck is a birther? You see, the thing that has always bothered me about this whole ordeal is why did Obama refuse to show his birth certificate in the first place? If he is truly legit then why and why fight it in court and spend gobs of money and time fighting it??? Tax payers dollars as well as his. There are other things too like, why is Hawaii taking so long to respond to this request? Why was the name of the hospital at the time of his birth different from it's current name (I do realize that some names change)? Why does the type font not appear correct on the form and why is it call a certificate of live birth instead of a birth certificate??? He won't produce his college transcripts either!!! No really???!!!! I am dead serious as I have some serious reservations about believing he is telling the truth. I mean heck, I have my original birth certificate and a certified copy and I am going to be 48 in July! Assuming that I had lost or misplaced it, in Missouri it only takes an ID with $15 and about a week to get another certified copy from the state. What gives????!!! No really, what gives???!!! This is just plain and simple. Why on earth do we not already have a system in place that when someone runs for federal office that his or her birth certificate/citizenship status is not officially verified??? Can someone please answer this for me???!!! I believe that the fine citizens of this country deserve an answer!!!

**Foxrac** · 05-19-2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airportcop

And what facts do you base that on foxrac? I have not heard this and I am curious to see if I missed something or if this is just your opinion. Thanks

What the heck is a birther? You see, the thing that has always bothered me about this whole ordeal is why did Obama refuse to show his birth certificate in the first place? If he is truly legit then why and why fight it in court and spend gobs of money and time fighting it??? Tax payers dollars as well as his. There are other things too like, why is Hawaii taking so long to respond to this request? Why was the name of the hospital at the time of his birth different from it's current name (I do realize that some names change)? Why does the type font not appear correct on the form and why is it call a certificate of live birth instead of a birth certificate??? He won't produce his college transcripts either!!! No really???!!!! I am dead serious as I have some serious reservations about believing he is telling the truth. I mean heck, I have my original birth certificate and a certified copy and I am going to be 48 in July! Assuming that I had lost or misplaced it, in Missouri it only takes an ID with $15 and about a week to get another certified copy from the state. What gives????!!! No really, what gives???!!! This is just plain and simple. Why on earth do we not already have a system in place that when someone runs for federal office that his or her birth certificate/citizenship status is not officially verified??? Can someone please answer this for me???!!! I believe that the fine citizens of this country deserve an answer!!!

If Arizona refuses to put Obama on ballot in primary and general election so it is obviously that federal could get court order to put on ballot because Obama's birth certificate is already verified and Arizona rather to playing wrong balls.

Our state has no problem with Obama's birth certificate and he is on ballot that where I voted during primary election.

FYI, birth certificate and certificate of live birth are same, that's just birth certificate. Mine is called Certificate of Live Birth from North Carolina so I have no problem with used that to got driver license and passport. EVERY STATES have different names for birth certificate.

Don't blame on Obama for costly lawsuits, blame on birthers and some states, especially Arizona for big mess. Obama already proved his birth certificate (short form) in 2008 and Hawaii verified that as well until birthers pushed Obama to released long form so it is same as short form but more information. Obama was born in Hawaii, USA, period.

TheOracle · 05-19-2012, 11:05 PM

Obama has already released it. More than once.

So maybe Hawaii should ask the Arizona Secretary of State for his birth certificate.

Mimsy · 05-20-2012, 01:21 AM

If he already showed his birth certificate, I wonder why there are educated, knowledgeable, intelligent people who are still asking for it. I am assuming that even though states have different names for birth certificates, the document Obama showed was not an authentic one. The people asking to see it aren't just silly people off the street, they must have a legitimate reason for questioning it.

rockin'robin · 05-20-2012, 01:34 AM

Obama's birth certificate has been questioned over and over for years.....Perhaps with the election coming up...possibly it's just another attempt to discredit him....Still, if there was nothing to hide, it should be made readily available....I remember all the flack about it years ago...and not surprised that still, there are those who question the authenticity of the one that was provided.

**Foxrac** · 05-21-2012, 02:35 AM

Update...

Ken Bennett, Arizona Secretary Of State, Gets Response From Hawaii On Obama Birth Certificate Request

Barbaro · 05-21-2012, 02:34 PM

I guess they forgot that Obama had already released it last year when they were busy chatting that Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan by SEALs team at the same time.

Last week, the article pointed out that the pamphlet was printed over 20 years ago saying that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, and there were over 1,000 comments still question Obama's birth certificate.

Oh, humanity.

**TXgolfer** · 05-21-2012, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockin'robin

Obama's birth certificate has been questioned over and over for years.....Perhaps with the election coming up...possibly it's just another attempt to discredit him....Still, if there was nothing to hide, it should be made readily available....I remember all the flack about it years ago...and not surprised that still, there are those who question the authenticity of the one that was provided.

There are actually some new questions coming out....by credible people. Summer may be interesting.

Steinhauer · 05-21-2012, 08:10 PM

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been investigating it as well. He has made some discoveries about Obama's birth certificate not being authentic. Of course, the Obama administration has been trying to discredit him.

Discredit a Sheriff that enforces US Law? Really???!!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...-is-a-forgery/

Quote:

Mike Zullo, the lead investigator for Arpaio, on Thursday presented a series of videos that he said showed that the president's documents were likely forgeries. He suggested the investigation showed that Mr. Obama's long-form birth certificate, which was released electronically, "never existed in paper form," and said the evidence had led him to recommend to Arpaio "a full-blown criminal investigation."

**Foxrac** · 05-21-2012, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been investigating it as well. He has made some discoveries about Obama's birth certificate not being authentic. Of course, the Obama administration has been trying to discredit him.

Discredit a Sheriff that enforces US Law? Really???!!!

Sheriff Joe Arpaio suggests Obama's birth certificate is a forgery - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Joe Arpaio?

That's just very silly.

That's just frivolous investigation.

Steinhauer · 05-21-2012, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Joe Arpaio?

That's just very silly.

That's just frivolous investigation.

Could you tell me if the "swift boat" campaign against John Kerry was frivolous?

Because the same investigator from that campaign is claiming that Obama is a fraud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfit_for_Command

**Foxrac** · 05-21-2012, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Could you tell me if the "swift boat" campaign against John Kerry was frivolous?

Because the same investigator from that campaign is claiming that Obama is a fraud.

Unfit for Command - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rest of your post is too frivolous.

Steinhauer · 05-21-2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxrac

Rest of your post is too frivolous.

Um, ok. Of course it is ....

whatdidyousay! · 05-21-2012, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockin'robin

Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett wants you to know that he is not a birther, but he says he wants proof of Barack Obama's citizenship before putting his name on the Arizona ballot.

In a radio interview today, Bennett said he is just doing his job of making sure "that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking." He says he has been trying for eight weeks to get documents from Hawaii.

In a statement just released, Bennett says:

"First, I have been on the record since 2009 that I believe the President was born in Hawaii. I am not a birther. At the request of a constituent, I asked the state of Hawaii for a Verification in lieu of certified copy. We're merely asking them to officially confirm they have the President's birth certificate in their possession and are awaiting their response."

Matt Roberts, Bennett spokesman said in an email that Bennett had not asked for Romney's Michigan birth certificate because. "This was simply in response to some constituents asking us to ask Hawaii," he said.

The deadline to file for the ballott is Sept. 10 th.

Arizona Secretary of State Wants to See Obama's Birth Certificate - Yahoo! News

WTF!! Obama has already show his Birth Certificate when Donald Trump had tantrums on TV about wanting to see the Birth Certificate! The Birth Certificate was show on TV already. State Ken Bennett has to be brain dead
if he does not know this!

Steinhauer · 05-21-2012, 09:57 PM

The DOJ lawsuit against Arpaio is frivolous.

Someone must want him to shutup about the fake birth certificate.

The same someone that tried to sue Arizona and lost ... oh .. so ... badly.

Yeah ... frivolous.

**Foxrac** · 05-21-2012, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The DOJ lawsuit against Arpaio is frivolous.

Someone must want him to shutup about the fake birth certificate.

The same someone that tried to sue Arizona and lost ... oh .. so ... badly.

Yeah ... frivolous.

DOJ lawsuit on Arpaio's misconduct and other civil rights issue are reasonable.

Your post is just silly.

**Jiro** · 05-22-2012, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Discredit a Sheriff that enforces US Law? Really???!!!

he's not a federal agent.

rolling7 · 05-22-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

he's not a federal agent.

You are right, he is not a federal agent. But Obama is and Obama refuses to enforce the federal laws.

**Jiro** · 05-22-2012, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

You are right, he is not a federal agent. But Obama is and Obama refuses to enforce the federal laws.

Obama is not a federal law enforcement officer and he does not have a power of arrest either.

Frisky Feline · 05-22-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

Obama is not a federal law enforcement officer and he does not have a power of arrest either.

jiro, show me your real Birth certificate.

kokonut · 05-22-2012, 09:49 AM

Hmmm.....October surprise?

kokonut · 05-22-2012, 10:09 AM

Nah.

CrazyPaul · 05-22-2012, 10:14 AM

If Obama is not a true American (not born in the USA), Congress would get rid of him but they didn't so possibly he is a true American.

**Jiro** · 05-22-2012, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

If Obama is not a true American (not born in the USA), Congress would get rid of him but they didn't so possibly he is a true American.

bingo!

and I find it very comical that birthers think an "illegal immigrant" could actually become President of United States.

I mean yea um.................. do they really think a potential Presidential candidate can undergo extensive background check and fool it?

kokonut · 05-22-2012, 10:18 AM

He was never fully vetted. The media made sure of that.

**Jiro** · 05-22-2012, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

He was never fully vetted. The media made sure of that.

oh you believe media? and not gonna wait and see what the court or legal proceeding says?

quite a change in attitude from Zimmerman subject.

rolling7 · 05-22-2012, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

Obama is not a federal law enforcement officer and he does not have a power of arrest either.

Jiro, you ain't dumb nor stupid but you do know who control the A.G., the DOJ and F.B.I.
Obama has spoken very clear that he won't enforce the DOMA, that is all the proof you need.

**Jiro** · 05-22-2012, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

Jiro, you ain't dumb nor stupid but you do know who control the A.G., the DOJ and F.B.I.

really? so you're telling me that Obama controls all branches?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

Obama has spoken very clear that he won't enforce the DOMA, that is all the proof you need.

what are we talking about in here? DOMA or Obama's birth certificate?

05-19-2012, 05:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,263	Arizona Secretary of State Wants to See Obama's Birth Certificate Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett wants you to know that he is not a birther, but he says he wants proof of Barack Obama's citizenship before putting his name on the Arizona ballot. In a radio interview today, Bennett said he is just doing his job of making sure "that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking." He says he has been trying for eight weeks to get documents from Hawaii. In a statement just released, Bennett says: "First, I have been on the record since 2009 that I believe the President was born in Hawaii. I am not a birther. At the request of a constituent, I asked the state of Hawaii for a Verification in lieu of certified copy. We're merely asking them to officially confirm they have the President's birth certificate in their possession and are awaiting their response." Matt Roberts, Bennett spokesman said in an email that Bennett had not asked for Romney's Michigan birth certificate because. "This was simply in response to some constituents asking us to ask Hawaii," he said. The deadline to file for the ballott is Sept. 10 th. Arizona Secretary of State Wants to See Obama's Birth Certificate - Yahoo! News Steinhauer and airportcop like this.

05-19-2012, 06:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,400	It looks like court will order Arizona to put Obama on ballot. __________________ In Moto We Trust

05-19-2012, 11:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheOracle Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 1,491	Obama has already released it. More than once. So maybe Hawaii should ask the Arizona Secretary of State for his birth certificate. Foxrac likes this. __________________ In the confusion we stay with each other, happy to be together, speaking without uttering a single word. Question everyone. This is the Internet.

05-20-2012, 01:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mimsy Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 655	If he already showed his birth certificate, I wonder why there are educated, knowledgeable, intelligent people who are still asking for it. I am assuming that even though states have different names for birth certificates, the document Obama showed was not an authentic one. The people asking to see it aren't just silly people off the street, they must have a legitimate reason for questioning it. rockin'robin, Steinhauer and airportcop like this.

05-20-2012, 01:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,263	Obama's birth certificate has been questioned over and over for years.....Perhaps with the election coming up...possibly it's just another attempt to discredit him....Still, if there was nothing to hide, it should be made readily available....I remember all the flack about it years ago...and not surprised that still, there are those who question the authenticity of the one that was provided. airportcop likes this.

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05-21-2012, 02:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
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Barbaro Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dæləs Posts: 1,308	I guess they forgot that Obama had already released it last year when they were busy chatting that Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan by SEALs team at the same time. Last week, the article pointed out that the pamphlet was printed over 20 years ago saying that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, and there were over 1,000 comments still question Obama's birth certificate. Oh, humanity. __________________ We know what we are but not what we may be. -Author:Shakespeare

05-21-2012, 09:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
Steinhauer Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,191 Blog Entries: 1	The DOJ lawsuit against Arpaio is frivolous. Someone must want him to shutup about the fake birth certificate. The same someone that tried to sue Arizona and lost ... oh .. so ... badly. Yeah ... frivolous.

05-22-2012, 09:49 AM	#23 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Hmmm.....October surprise? __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

05-22-2012, 10:09 AM	#24 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Nah. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

05-22-2012, 10:14 AM	#25 (permalink)
CrazyPaul Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,968	If Obama is not a true American (not born in the USA), Congress would get rid of him but they didn't so possibly he is a true American.

05-22-2012, 10:18 AM	#27 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	He was never fully vetted. The media made sure of that. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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