Arizona Secretary of State Wants to See Obama's Birth Certificate - Page 3

Steinhauer · 05-25-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

ACORN is gone so it is pointless now.

Ohhh ......... darn.

I guess it is foreshadowing Obama's regime.

**Foxrac** · 05-25-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Ohhh ......... darn.

I guess it is foreshadowing Obama's regime.

It looks like you are in 2009 now.

rolling7 · 05-25-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

No I don't. Why do you keep saying that?

Are you saying that you don't know that Obama is POTUS????? What ton of rocks have you been under the last few years?

**Foxrac** · 05-25-2012, 01:42 PM

Obama is elected by people via electoral voting, not come from revolution, military appoint or coup d'etat.

Now, we live in USA that feel like Singapore.

Hey, Jiro, you are going be caned soon but I'm trying to overturn the sentence.

**Jiro** · 05-25-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Are you saying that you don't know that Obama is POTUS????? What ton of rocks have you been under the last few years?

what I'm saying is that I didn't know Obama controls everything. the only person who believes that is you.

rolling7 · 05-25-2012, 09:30 PM

Ask the heads of AG, F.B.I. and D.O.J. just who their bossman is and then get your head out of the sand.

**Jiro** · 05-28-2012, 04:43 AM

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Ask the heads of AG, F.B.I. and D.O.J. just who their bossman is and then get your head out of the sand.

oh? let's see....

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ah.... I see.... it is very clear that Obama has no control over it and that one of Obama's job is not enforcing federal laws.

rolling7 · 05-28-2012, 08:38 AM

The A.G. is nominated by the President of the United States and takes office after confirmation by the U.S. Senate. He/She serves at the pleasure of the President and can be removed by THE PRESIDENT at anytime.

In otherwords, if the A.G. does not do the PRESIDENT'S wishes it is "bye-bye" time.

**Jiro** · 05-28-2012, 10:49 AM

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The A.G. is nominated by the President of the United States and takes office after confirmation by the U.S. Senate. He/She serves at the pleasure of the President and can be removed by THE PRESIDENT at anytime.

In otherwords, if the A.G. does not do the PRESIDENT'S wishes it is "bye-bye" time.

ah then A.G. is not obliged to follow President if it's wrong. he is free to resign at anytime. as it stated.... "In addition, the Act gave the Attorney General and the Department control over federal law enforcement. To assist the Attorney General, the 1870 Act created the Office of the Solicitor General."

Attorney General and the DOJ have full authority over federal laws, not Obama. They pick which laws to enforce and what not to enforce as the matter of priority, not Obama.

why do you act like it's end of the world for that person if he resigns? first and foremost..... Attorney General serves at the pleasure of United States to uphold the Constitution and to enforce federal laws, not President. That's why Attorney General is the 7th in the presidential line of succession.

rolling7 · 05-28-2012, 12:31 PM

Once the A.G. resigns and/or is replaced, the President gets someone else that WILL carry or his wishes (but you already knew this).

**Jiro** · 05-29-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Once the A.G. resigns and/or is replaced, the President gets someone else that WILL carry or his wishes (but you already knew this).

nope I don't. A.G. has to be confirmed by Senate.

rolling7 · 05-29-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

nope I don't. A.G. has to be confirmed by Senate.

Well.........at least you admit you are not a know it all.

You can spin it any way you wish but you now know Obama has the duty to enforce each and every federal law.

BTW: just in case you don't know, the A.G. can NOT be confirmed until the President "confirms" him/her. Just another way of the President is only going to nominate someone whom will TOTALLY follow the Presidents orders.

**Jiro** · 05-30-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Well.........at least you admit you are not a know it all.

since when did I say I know it all?

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You can spin it any way you wish but you now know Obama has the duty to enforce each and every federal law.

I'm not spinning anything. I'm showing you facts and laws as posted above. These are not my words. As what these source says... Attorney General has the duty to enforce the federal law, not President.

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Originally Posted by rolling7

BTW: just in case you don't know, the A.G. can NOT be confirmed until the President "confirms" him/her. Just another way of the President is only going to nominate someone whom will TOTALLY follow the Presidents orders.

Incorrect. President nominates one and Senate confirms one. Big difference.

rolling7 · 05-30-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

since when did I say I know it all?

I'm not spinning anything. I'm showing you facts and laws as posted above. These are not my words. As what these source says... Attorney General has the duty to enforce the federal law, not President.

Incorrect. President nominates one and Senate confirms one. Big difference.

Nope....you are incorrect....because it always has to be the one and same person....not a different person....a person the President has vetted to follow his (i.e. THE PRESIDENTS) wish and wants.....our else, bye-bye A.G.

**Jiro** · 05-30-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Nope....you are incorrect....because it always has to be the one and same person....not a different person....a person the President has vetted to follow his (i.e. THE PRESIDENTS) wish and wants.....our else, bye-bye A.G.

Senate has to confirm A.G. so the President doesn't always get what he wants especially if Senate control is of different party.

Seeing how Attorney General position was changed 3x during Bush Administration and none under Obama Administration....

rolling7 · 05-30-2012, 08:48 AM

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Senate has to confirm A.G. so the President doesn't always get what he wants especially if Senate control is of different party.

Seeing how Attorney General position was changed 3x during Bush Administration and none under Obama Administration....

Simple means today's A.G. is not his own man but kisses Obama's butt and feet

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05-25-2012, 09:30 PM	#66 (permalink)
rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Ask the heads of AG, F.B.I. and D.O.J. just who their bossman is and then get your head out of the sand.

05-28-2012, 08:38 AM	#68 (permalink)
rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	The A.G. is nominated by the President of the United States and takes office after confirmation by the U.S. Senate. He/She serves at the pleasure of the President and can be removed by THE PRESIDENT at anytime. In otherwords, if the A.G. does not do the PRESIDENT'S wishes it is "bye-bye" time.

05-28-2012, 12:31 PM	#70 (permalink)
rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Once the A.G. resigns and/or is replaced, the President gets someone else that WILL carry or his wishes (but you already knew this).