Origami - Page 2

moonflower · 01-13-2008, 06:47 PM

very impressive vampy
look so awesome smile

***VamPyroX*** · 01-14-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jolie_77

^ Sweet! How long did it take you to complete Level 1 of Menger's Sponge?

192 index cards??

That's a lot and I can imagine level 2 and above would have more than this.

Btw - thanks for sharing your origami experiences.

It took me a few hours to make it. Of course, I was watching an anime at the same time.

If I were to make Level 2, it would require 3,456 index cards and weigh about 15 lbs. The whole thing would be 27 inches wide. Would it fit through my door when I'm done with it? Hmm...

The reason why index cards were best for this project is because they're stronger, smaller, and cheaper.

If I did it out of $1 bills, the furthest I could go would be Level 1 because Level 2 is too much money. Plus, the weight might put some strain on the bills.

For index cards, I can get 250 for $1 at the dollar store. For Level 2, it would cost me $14 worth of index cards. That would be worth the project. I might do that next month and take a picture of it when I'm done.

Since it takes me a few hours to do Level 1, multiply that by 20 and that's how long it would take me to do Level 2. Considering that, I might do Level 1 per day... taking me about 20 days to complete it.

***VamPyroX*** · 01-14-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by moonflower

very impressive vampy
look so awesome smile

Thanks.

***VamPyroX*** · 01-16-2008, 02:15 PM

Okay... I got bored again.

So, I did it using playing cards.

***VamPyroX*** · 01-18-2008, 01:05 PM

I got tired of doing it using cards and decided to try a different approach.

Instead of simple folds and attaching them together in a simple way, I decided to do complex folds and attach them together in complex ways.

Here's the result... (you'll notice that the pattern is different)

RedFox · 01-19-2008, 02:33 PM

Those Menger cube models are interesting. Is there any way to make a paper Sierpinski tetrahedron?

I've made paper models of the Platonic, Archimedean and Kepler-Poinsot solids with the designs on this site back when it had much less.

It is possible to make models like those with origami, especially modular origami. The ones I did were with tabs and glue.

Those got crushed when I was away at RIT.

So I plan on making new ones using a program to print out the designs for those again plus a lot more such as the Catalan solids, some prisms, some antiprisms, the rest of the uniform polyhedra, the uniform compounds, Johnson solids and some other groups as well as tilings in two and three dimensions. Then once I have those taken care of, there are the four dimensional ones, which includes six convex regular shapes as opposed to only five such polyhedra in three dimensions and an infinite number of regular polygons in two dimensions. Then there are the higher dimensions

with three convex regular shapes each and many nonconvex ones.

The some of the nonconvex snub polyhedra uniform compounds of their mirror images are each going to take a while to make. On the bottom of this page, George Hart says if someone makes a paper model of the compound of the mirror images of the great inverted retrosnub icosidodecahedron, he would buy them a beer.

His site is a nice introduction to this topic. It is also known as UC72, or the 72nd uniform compound.

From what I've read, at least two models of this exist in the world, so maybe mine could be the third one.

It's going to be hard because the self-intersecting faces of such polyhedra cut each other into little pieces and notches that could be as small as millimeters across even when the whole thing is around a meter across. I figured that the pieces for that one would take up around 350 pages if I printed out the most effective arrangement of parts I was able to get in the program. So, I may print out one instance of each part and use those to make duplicates that don't leave lots of empty paper.

I tried to count up most of what is on my list of what to build and it ended up being over 500 items. I'm sure it'll go way over that, maybe over 1000. Only a few of them really need to be large to be fully detailed. Most of them can be made small and should fit into my room.

I've had practice cutting small things with my exacto knife for another project and got a book from the library about shelves, so I could get ideas about what to design to store all of these things.

It all started with another book from the library, Shapes, Space and Symmetry, which showed how a lot of those are related to each other.

***VamPyroX*** · 01-22-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFox

Those Menger cube models are interesting. Is there any way to make a paper Sierpinski tetrahedron?

I've made paper models of the Platonic, Archimedean and Kepler-Poinsot solids with the designs on this site back when it had much less.

It is possible to make models like those with origami, especially modular origami. The ones I did were with tabs and glue.

Those got crushed when I was away at RIT.

So I plan on making new ones using a program to print out the designs for those again plus a lot more such as the Catalan solids, some prisms, some antiprisms, the rest of the uniform polyhedra, the uniform compounds, Johnson solids and some other groups as well as tilings in two and three dimensions. Then once I have those taken care of, there are the four dimensional ones, which includes six convex regular shapes as opposed to only five such polyhedra in three dimensions and an infinite number of regular polygons in two dimensions. Then there are the higher dimensions

with three convex regular shapes each and many nonconvex ones.

The some of the nonconvex snub polyhedra uniform compounds of their mirror images are each going to take a while to make. On the bottom of this page, George Hart says if someone makes a paper model of the compound of the mirror images of the great inverted retrosnub icosidodecahedron, he would buy them a beer.

His site is a nice introduction to this topic. It is also known as UC72, or the 72nd uniform compound.

From what I've read, at least two models of this exist in the world, so maybe mine could be the third one.

It's going to be hard because the self-intersecting faces of such polyhedra cut each other into little pieces and notches that could be as small as millimeters across even when the whole thing is around a meter across. I figured that the pieces for that one would take up around 350 pages if I printed out the most effective arrangement of parts I was able to get in the program. So, I may print out one instance of each part and use those to make duplicates that don't leave lots of empty paper.

I tried to count up most of what is on my list of what to build and it ended up being over 500 items. I'm sure it'll go way over that, maybe over 1000. Only a few of them really need to be large to be fully detailed. Most of them can be made small and should fit into my room.

I've had practice cutting small things with my exacto knife for another project and got a book from the library about shelves, so I could get ideas about what to design to store all of these things.

It all started with another book from the library, Shapes, Space and Symmetry, which showed how a lot of those are related to each other.

The Menger's Sponge is the only thing that can be done without modifying paper in special patterns. For instance, I used index cards and playing cards. They weren't cut in any special way... just folded and connected. The smaller model I made was done using origami paper. I simply cut a regular square sheet of origami paper into 4 smaller square sheets. I didn't cut them into triangles or any unusual shape to make it easier. I just cut them into squares and then folded them as I would with any origami project.

The Sierpinski Tetrahedron? Well, those are triangles with no real connecting points unless I used toothpicks or glues. But then again, if glue or toothpicks were used... then is it a real all-paper model?

Earlier, I made something that is a mix between a tetrahedron and a platonic. That was done using simple 1x3 paper and folded into ways that they can be connected and locked together. You should try that.

You probably don't need to do all of those printing. There are patterns that you can find online using 3x4 paper that can be used into any geometric shape.

Try doing a search for "knotology". You'll find something interesting there.

ScubaladyTx · 01-25-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

I made this recently.

Wow! Isn't that hard ?? For me, I have NOOOOOOOO patience to sitting and focus on that for hours and hours ?!?!

M-

***VamPyroX*** · 01-25-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ScubaladyTx

Wow! Isn't that hard ?? For me, I have NOOOOOOOO patience to sitting and focus on that for hours and hours ?!?!

M-

Well, the more complicated the project, the more time it will take.

I've got a lot of patience. It helps to have something else going on to keep me occupied.

That's why I usually watch DVDs when working on these kinds of project.

Right now, I'm working on a Level 2 Menger's Sponge... using the same method as I did for...

http://www.alldeaf.com/899166-post35.html

I've been working on it for 2 days now. I will fold and prepare 40 sheets at a time, then add them to the model. I usually spend 30 minutes to 1 hour each time before waiting until later during the day/evening or tomorrow.

I will be doing some today. I'll upload pictures soon...

ScubaladyTx · 01-25-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Well, the more complicated the project, the more time it will take.

I've got a lot of patience. It helps to have something else going on to keep me occupied.

That's why I usually watch DVDs when working on these kinds of project.

Right now, I'm working on a Level 2 Menger's Sponge... using the same method as I did for...

http://www.alldeaf.com/899166-post35.html

I've been working on it for 2 days now. I will fold and prepare 40 sheets at a time, then add them to the model. I usually spend 30 minutes to 1 hour each time before waiting until later during the day/evening or tomorrow.

I will be doing some today. I'll upload pictures soon...

Wow, God bless ya that u have a good patience just like my husband, He is such wonderful patience than I do! Lol... no wonder, Im orginallly from New York City! !

Ya know, For New Yorker people- Mostly them have no "patience".... just like come on and hurry up! ! blahhh blahhhh....( not pretty attitude). Lol

M-

***VamPyroX*** · 01-26-2008, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ScubaladyTx

Wow, God bless ya that u have a good patience just like my husband, He is such wonderful patience than I do! Lol... no wonder, Im orginallly from New York City! !

Ya know, For New Yorker people- Mostly them have no "patience".... just like come on and hurry up! ! blahhh blahhhh....( not pretty attitude). Lol

M-

Really? I just moved here from New York last summer.

fredfam1 · 01-27-2008, 06:46 PM

Since those $1 are now ART, you could exibit them as art
work and charge outrageous amounts for them! I see stardom
and moolah in the future!

Beautiful work byw!

JClarke · 01-27-2008, 07:24 PM

Vampy -- You have great talent in origami! Keep it up, mate! I enjoy doing it myself too. I get bored at work, and I do some of it. I make few things, like the japanese crane.

***VamPyroX*** · 01-28-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fredfam1

Since those $1 are now ART, you could exibit them as art
work and charge outrageous amounts for them! I see stardom
and moolah in the future!

Beautiful work byw!

Hahaha...

I thought about that.

I was thinking of creating a full-sized Level 1 Menger's Sponge out of $1 bills and then sell it on eBay. However, it's against the law to mail cash. Since the whole thing uses $192, I can just make the starting bid begin with $200. It would be weird to see me making money from money.

But... would I be able to ship it? I wonder if eBay has a policy on that. Hmm...

***VamPyroX*** · 01-28-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jclarke

Vampy -- You have great talent in origami! Keep it up, mate! I enjoy doing it myself too. I get bored at work, and I do some of it. I make few things, like the japanese crane.

Thanks.

Years ago, I did play around with those small animals. Now, I'm doing geometric shapes cuz those are easier to recognize than those animals. When I made animals, people would see these animals sitting on my desk and say... "Is that a... umm... some bird or cat? What is it?" If I tell them what it is, they will either get it or not. So, I gave up with animals and decided to move on with things that are easier to recognize. That's why I made those dollar bill projects shown above cuz people can actually recognize them.

fredfam1 · 01-28-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Hahaha...

I thought about that.

I was thinking of creating a full-sized Level 1 Menger's Sponge out of $1 bills and then sell it on eBay. However, it's against the law to mail cash. Since the whole thing uses $192, I can just make the starting bid begin with $200. It would be weird to see me making money from money.

But... would I be able to ship it? I wonder if eBay has a policy on that. Hmm...

I think if you varnished the whole thing, rendering it useless to spend
maybe you could mail it. But its no longer cash anyway, its art. Then
again you probably need a permit to varnish money. Oh well, I bet some
where there is a rule that covers this!

fredfam1 · 01-28-2008, 10:28 AM

Fun Fever: The Art Of Moneygami - Origami With Bills

The above has some really neat Origami from money!

Also I talked to an Art Shipping Agent and he said since
it would now be considered art you would be allowed to
ship it but the only problem would be finding someone to
insure it because it was made from currency.

ScubaladyTx · 01-28-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Really? I just moved here from New York last summer.

Oh yeah ? Which part of city in New york ? I grew up in Staten Island.

M-

***VamPyroX*** · 01-29-2008, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredfam1

I think if you varnished the whole thing, rendering it useless to spend
maybe you could mail it. But its no longer cash anyway, its art. Then
again you probably need a permit to varnish money. Oh well, I bet some
where there is a rule that covers this!

If you varnish money, then that might be considered... "defacing money". That's illegal.

***VamPyroX*** · 01-29-2008, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScubaladyTx

Oh yeah ? Which part of city in New york ? I grew up in Staten Island.

M-

Rochester.

It doesn't have to be total patience. Anything can be done while doing something else.

A person may not have patience with sitting there and

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fredfam1 Cathe Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 765	Fun Fever: The Art Of Moneygami - Origami With Bills The above has some really neat Origami from money! Also I talked to an Art Shipping Agent and he said since it would now be considered art you would be allowed to ship it but the only problem would be finding someone to insure it because it was made from currency. __________________ http://mommasarmyboots.wordpress.com/

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RedFox Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bellows Falls, VT Posts: 798	Those Menger cube models are interesting. Is there any way to make a paper Sierpinski tetrahedron? I've made paper models of the Platonic, Archimedean and Kepler-Poinsot solids with the designs on this site back when it had much less. It is possible to make models like those with origami, especially modular origami. The ones I did were with tabs and glue. Those got crushed when I was away at RIT. So I plan on making new ones using a program to print out the designs for those again plus a lot more such as the Catalan solids, some prisms, some antiprisms, the rest of the uniform polyhedra, the uniform compounds, Johnson solids and some other groups as well as tilings in two and three dimensions. Then once I have those taken care of, there are the four dimensional ones, which includes six convex regular shapes as opposed to only five such polyhedra in three dimensions and an infinite number of regular polygons in two dimensions. Then there are the higher dimensions with three convex regular shapes each and many nonconvex ones. The some of the nonconvex snub polyhedra uniform compounds of their mirror images are each going to take a while to make. On the bottom of this page, George Hart says if someone makes a paper model of the compound of the mirror images of the great inverted retrosnub icosidodecahedron, he would buy them a beer. His site is a nice introduction to this topic. It is also known as UC72, or the 72nd uniform compound. From what I've read, at least two models of this exist in the world, so maybe mine could be the third one. It's going to be hard because the self-intersecting faces of such polyhedra cut each other into little pieces and notches that could be as small as millimeters across even when the whole thing is around a meter across. I figured that the pieces for that one would take up around 350 pages if I printed out the most effective arrangement of parts I was able to get in the program. So, I may print out one instance of each part and use those to make duplicates that don't leave lots of empty paper. I tried to count up most of what is on my list of what to build and it ended up being over 500 items. I'm sure it'll go way over that, maybe over 1000. Only a few of them really need to be large to be fully detailed. Most of them can be made small and should fit into my room. I've had practice cutting small things with my exacto knife for another project and got a book from the library about shelves, so I could get ideas about what to design to store all of these things. It all started with another book from the library, Shapes, Space and Symmetry, which showed how a lot of those are related to each other.