11/30 update

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Pacman

It does have 1920 x 1080 on monitor and just added on display setting after fall update.

Some people told me about it but I will test myself about 1920 x 1080 on monitor.

They think monitor.. They forgot about computers does support 1920 x 1080. It is nothing to do with monitor. It is just computers.

Where did you click on monitor or computer???
Display properties, where it comes from? Computer. Not monitor.

[Foxrac]

Originally Posted by sjones4dad

If i want to use computer or xbox 360 on HDTV to set up 1920 x 1080. Most computers and xbox 360 does work on 1080p. Yes, it is true native 1080p. P means progressive.

Yea, Steel found it from display setting since he's using monitor via VGA cable.

I need to update xbox 360 in next 1-2 weeks but not pre-loaded yet.

[Foxrac]

Originally Posted by sjones4dad

They think monitor.. They forgot about computers does support 1920 x 1080. It is nothing to do with monitor. It is just computers.

Where did you click on monitor or computer???
Display properties, where it comes from? Computer. Not monitor.

Computer monitor is same thing as monitor... Steel found it from display setting about "1920 x 1080" on monitor via VGA cable. Not HDTV...

Edit... Computer monitor or just short word for monitor... Look like that...

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Pacman

Computer monitor is same thing as monitor... Steel found it from display setting about "1920 x 1080" on monitor via VGA cable. Not HDTV...

Where he found it in computer or monitor? Does he use computer or monitor to set up?

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Pacman

Computer monitor is same thing as monitor... Steel found it from display setting about "1920 x 1080" on monitor via VGA cable. Not HDTV...

Edit... Computer monitor or just short word for monitor... Look like that...

That is LCD display. It can be consider as other hdtv.

[Foxrac]

Originally Posted by sjones4dad

Where he found it in computer or monitor? Does he use computer or monitor to set up?

Both of monitor or computer are same word... Just show picture...


That's got 1920 x 1080 after fall update.

[Foxrac]

Originally Posted by sjones4dad

That is LCD display. It can be consider as other hdtv.

Go google "widescreen monitor" then that what I found it.
Widescreen

It wasn't HDTV because no tv tuner.

It called computer monitor, monitor, LCD display or whatever since all of them are same word.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Pacman

Both of monitor or computer are same word... Just show picture...


That's got 1920 x 1080 after fall update.

YOU CAN TRY THAT 1920 X 1080 ON THAT LCD DISPLAY.

I DID NOT SAY COMPUTER MONITOR IS NOT MONITOR. YOU ASSUME THAT!

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

DELL LCD DISPLAY SPEC.



Screen Size: 24 inches
Type: LCD Monitor
Native Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Supported EDTV and HDTV Resolutions (HD Ready): 1080i
Aspect Ratio: 16:10 Video Inputs: Component, Composite, DVI, S-Video
PC Interfaces: Analog VGA and Dual-mode (DVI-I)
Built-in TV Tuner: None
Pixel Response Time (Gray to Gray): 16 milliseconds
Rated Maximum Viewing Angle: Horizontal: 175 degrees
Rated Maximum Viewing Angle: Vertical : 130 degrees
Brightness (Max): 500 cd/m^2
USB Ports: 4

Ask Steel X that he had Dell 2407?

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Other cheap lcd monitor spec.

Specifications

Panel
Viewable area: 20.1" (51cm) diagonal
Pixel Pitch (mm): 0.258x0.258
Brightness: 300 cd/m^2
Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Viewing Angle (Horizontal/Vertical) 160°/145°
Response Time (Black to White to Black): 8 ms
Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Tilt: -5° to 25°
Swivel: +/- 65°

VESA Mount : 100 x 100 mm

Frequencies
Horizontal Frequency (kHz): 30-98
Vertical refresh rate (Hz): 56-76
Maximum Resolution:
1680x1050 @ 60Hz - Digital
1680x1050 @ 75Hz - Analog

Connectivity
Signal Input: Analog RGB, DVI Digital Link
USB: 1 x USB2.0

Weight
Net (Physical): 19 lbs
Cabinet Color (front / back): Black/Silver
Size: 483 x 402 x 235 mm (WxHxD) including stand

[Foxrac]

Now, I'm fucking confused what you said monitor, widescreen monitor, computer monitor, LCD display or whatever and I always called monitor, that what I said about word.
Monitors & Projectors

VGA cable from MS is designed for HD from 640x480 to 1920 x 1080 on monitor and other stuff (that you mentioned) on HDTV.

I don't care about spec, it was for PC case.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Pacman

Now, I'm fucking confused what you said monitor, widescreen monitor, computer monitor, LCD display or whatever and I always called monitor, that what I said about word.
Monitors & Projectors

VGA cable from MS is designed for HD from 640x480 to 1920 x 1080 on monitor and other stuff (that you mentioned) on HDTV.

I don't care about spec, it was for PC case.

Yes, it can be confusing. HDTV can be monitor? I dislike it because it can be confusing. When i say monitor and people think that I have CRT monitor. I like to say HDTV or LCD display instead monitor. If you said monitor, and i can picture you mean CRT monitor. Or other thing, you can said widescreen. I assume you mean hdtv. IT still can be confusing. Widescreen will go to hdtv or lcd display. New lcd widescreen display can be hdtv like Dell 2407. Whatever you like to say it monitor is fine to you. It can be confusing to others.

Brand new monitors starting to have hd supported like Dell 2407.

Most monitors are not supported by 1920 x 1080.

It is not from pc case. It is monitor spec. When you are ready to buy hdtv or monitor. You have to check spec to make sure if monitor or hdtv does support over 1920 x 1080.

I am suprised about Dell 2407, and i think that Defmatrixense had one. I am not sure. Only one that support HDTV. Steel X might have one too.

That's all that you need to know.

Good night!

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

{Mod's Note; Previous post was removed..

Yes, he told me that he had Dell LCD. Not sure, which model number like 2407. I do remember he told me 24 inches. It is possible that he should have 2407.

Please I do know about it. I hold five computer certifications.

[Steel X]

Originally Posted by sjones4dad

computer monitor does not support 1920 x 1080.

Only on HDTV.

you might be right since I tested that on my vga montior and it was waaaayyy too big on my 19' montior lol so maybe it only depends on size of monitor thou.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Steel X

you might be right since I tested that on my vga montior and it was waaaayyy too big on my 19' montior lol so maybe it only depends on size of monitor thou.

Yes, it often like this many times. Yes, that is why it needs widescreen or big screen like over 24 inches or more.

720p and 1080i still great picture that you set up thru VGA.

[Steel X]

Originally Posted by sjones4dad

DELL LCD DISPLAY SPEC.



Screen Size: 24 inches
Type: LCD Monitor
Native Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Supported EDTV and HDTV Resolutions (HD Ready): 1080i
Aspect Ratio: 16:10 Video Inputs: Component, Composite, DVI, S-Video
PC Interfaces: Analog VGA and Dual-mode (DVI-I)
Built-in TV Tuner: None
Pixel Response Time (Gray to Gray): 16 milliseconds
Rated Maximum Viewing Angle: Horizontal: 175 degrees
Rated Maximum Viewing Angle: Vertical : 130 degrees
Brightness (Max): 500 cd/m^2
USB Ports: 4

Ask Steel X that he had Dell 2407?

No I only have a 19' Starlogic montior.

[sequoias]

If you want HD support, better be sure it's minimum of 1280x720 which is 720p. Many xbox games that are programmed to scale at different HD resolutions will work at like 720p, 1080i, 1080p for example. The monitors that support 1920x1080 minimum are kind of expensive for many people. The Dell 24" LCD does 1920x1200 and it costs about 700 dollars. Not too many teenagers who are gamers can chip out that much money.

Edit: My Dell 20" widescreen LCD only can do max of 1650x1080 and it's not likely it will do 1080i/p, but more likely to do 720p.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Steel X

No I only have a 19' Starlogic montior.

Yeah, I did not know what you have after pacman said starlogic. So I looked up on starlogic and see if it does have 1920 x 1080. It does not.

I do know older monitors does not support.

I am sure new monitors will make in 1920 x 1080. This is really exciting for pc & xbox gamers can use that highest quality monitor just like Dell 2407.

It is probably why Microsoft making that kind of update for 1080p for new lcd widescreen display. Of course, HDTV too.

[Steel X]

Originally Posted by sjones4dad

Yes, it often like this many times. Yes, that is why it needs widescreen or big screen like over 24 inches or more.

720p and 1080i still great picture that you set up thru VGA.

Aye I set mine at 1280x1024 on my full 19' monitor and looks pretty good but on orginal xbox games, it looks really bad so I set it to about 800x600 or so on VGA to put it back in 480i or something and it looks alot better so yeah its weird.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by sequoias

If you want HD support, better be sure it's minimum of 1280x720 which is 720p. Many xbox games that are programmed to scale at different HD resolutions will work at like 720p, 1080i, 1080p for example. The monitors that support 1920x1080 minimum are kind of expensive for many people. The Dell 24" LCD does 1920x1200 and it costs about 700 dollars. Not too many teenagers who are gamers can chip out that much money.

Edit: My Dell 20" widescreen LCD only can do max of 1650x1080 and it's not likely it will do 1080i/p, but more likely to do 720p.

Yes, that is right. 720p and 1080i still good enough for HD.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Steel X

Aye I set mine at 1280x1024 on my full 19' monitor and looks pretty good but on orginal xbox games, it looks really bad so I set it to about 800x600 or so on VGA to put it back in 480i or something and it looks alot better so yeah its weird.

Yes, for orginal xbox games does not support to 720p. Just 480p. That is why.

[sablescort]

I looked my Samsung 940MW multifunction combination LCD HDTV/computer monitor's specs.... sjones already informed me it aint 1080p supported by Samsung since the 1080p format is new and I agree with him.

If I put it on comp/HDAV cables the most I can get is 1080i and 720p. Max resolution on VGA/DVI is 1440x900

M$ should not only have put ou HDMI cables but DVI ones too since mine doesnt have HDMI.

When I was shopping for the LCD HDTV, all I cared was the response times at < 10ms or less. I just didnt give a damn if it could run on 720p, 1080i, 1080p, whatever they could cook up.

And sjones is right that Samsung is partnered with M$ on the xbox360 parts. It was just a concidence that my LCD display happen to be a Sammy....

SAMSUNG's Digital World - LCD - Multi-Function | 940MW

Panel Type: a-si LCD TV/Monitor

Viewable Size: 19"

Pixel Pitch: 0.294mm

Brightness: 300 cd/m²

Contrast Ratio: 700:1

Viewing Angle: 160°/160°

Aspect Ratio: 16:10

Interface: Digital/Analog

Response Time: 8ms

Native Resolution: 1440 x 900

Maximum Color: 16.7M

Input Video Signal: Analog RGB, DVI Digital Link:TMDS, Composite,S-Video,Component, TV,SCART

Sync Type: Separate H/V, Composite HV

Input Connectors: 15-Pin D-Sub, DVI-D, CVBS, S-Video, SCART, Component, RF

Power Consumption: 55 Watts (max) < 2 watts (DPMS Mode)

VESA® Wall Mount: 100mm

Emission Standard: TCO '99

Compatibility: PC/Windows, Macintosh, Sun Microsystems

Dimensions: 18.3"(W) x 16"(H) x 8.5"(D)