HD-DVD player now in stock...

[Steel X]

I highly doubt blu-ray would win since of the fact that most ppl are familar with DVDs, and as they hear of HD-DVDs, they would become even more interested as its like the second generation of DVDs and you want to experienece movies futher in high defintion style, then HD-DVD is the best to go since it has 6 times the resloution than the regular DVD. Sure blu-ray is a hi-def disc too but works in a much different way than HD-DVD since I hear alot of blu-ray movies appear to be darker than HD-DVD movies do.

HD-DVD gives out a pretty rich look on the screen as its like you are also in the movie with the characters lol since everything looks pure real in hi-def style.

My money's on HD-DVD since its cheaper and better than blu-ray.

what's ur take?

[DefMATRIXense]

Originally Posted by Steel X

I highly doubt blu-ray would win since of the fact that most ppl are familar with DVDs, and as they hear of HD-DVDs, they would become even more interested as its like the second generation of DVDs and you want to experienece movies futher in high defintion style, then HD-DVD is the best to go since it has 6 times the resloution than the regular DVD. Sure blu-ray is a hi-def disc too but works in a much different way than HD-DVD since I hear alot of blu-ray movies appear to be darker than HD-DVD movies do.

HD-DVD gives out a pretty rich look on the screen as its like you are also in the movie with the characters lol since everything looks pure real in hi-def style.

My money's on HD-DVD since its cheaper and better than blu-ray.

what's ur take?

I believe Blu-ray movies are cheaper than HD-DVD movies.. I don't think either will be victory of the battle. I will grab HD-DVD(360) and Blu-Ray(ps3) some day.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

HD-dvd and blu-ray movies are same prices. For systems, hd-dvd is $200 cheaper than blu-ray player.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

i watched king kong on my progressive scan dvd player(480p) and the hd dvd player(1080i) simutaniously. i switch video modes on the tv and reciever every once in awhile throughout the movie and watched the same scenes to compare video quality. i can assure you: there is a huge difference between the two formats.

The great thing here is you have the choice of whether or not to buy one.

Think of all those poor souls today freezing in tents with no choice but to accept a $200 increase in price to have a Blu Ray player forced upon them.

The one thing is Blu Ray is a more expensive format, for the consumer and the studio. Reminds me a lot of BetaMax, better quality for the time, but more expensive. We all know VHS won that war. Unless the diffence is huge people will not pay more for movies even if they have a built in player. Sony is once again showing the arrogance of past failures:

BetaMax

Mini Disc

Memory Stick

Blu-Ray

Even the studios that signed on early to blu ray are second guessing and possibly jumping ship. In August HD-DVD sales of movies were already 3 to 1 against blu ray. Even with being forced upon the video gaming public Blu Ray is on its way to being the next cautionary tale of electronics. Don't forget nintendo lost its number 1 spot back in the day insisting the more expensive cartridge was the way to go.

I think the HD-DVD is a good deal if....you find the $40 off coupon from circuit city and are a movie buff.

[Banjo]

The reason why BetaMax was a failure was because Sony made it an exclusive technology available only to itself and no other electronics manufacturers.

Therefore, VHS was born to kill BetaMax. Personally, I thought BetaMax was better but Sony got too selfish. That's life.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I was in EB Games earlier today. I looked at a few of the Blu Ray movies they had for sale. Ice Age 2 was $40, at Circuit City I noticed a few BR discs at $35. If this is the standard of pricing for BR discs, then I can see HD DVD whipping its butt. $40 for any kind of movie is absurd unless there are plenty of extras.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

I was in EB Games earlier today. I looked at a few of the Blu Ray movies they had for sale. Ice Age 2 was $40, at Circuit City I noticed a few BR discs at $35. If this is the standard of pricing for BR discs, then I can see HD DVD whipping its butt. $40 for any kind of movie is absurd unless there are plenty of extras.

My suggestion to buy at Wal-mart. Mostly HD-dvd and blu-ray discs for 25 dollars. Always cheaper than best buy and circuit city.

[pubwood]

Hey...want to ask you a question about the subtitle on the HD movies. I am leaning to buy the XBOX 360 with the HD DVD player. I am concerned about the subtitles. Are you really happy with the HD subtitles over the orginial DVD's subtitles? Do you feel a regret that the HD DVD and Blu-Ray don't support the closed caption? Let me know. Thanks!

[Dr. Strangelove]

There is no closed captioning supported, you are correct. But there are now more and more "SDH" which interprets into Subtitles for the Deaf and Hard of hearing which is more like captions, being descrpitive of things like sounds that are relevant to the experience. I believe the option is there, to choose normal subtitles or subtitles for the deaf. Why no more closed captioning? I do not know why. But I will speculate that it may cost the company less to subtitle it themselves than it is to pay a closed captioning agency to do it for them.

[pubwood]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

There is no closed captioning supported, you are correct. But there are now more and more "SDH" which interprets into Subtitles for the Deaf and Hard of hearing which is more like captions, being descrpitive of things like sounds that are relevant to the experience. I believe the option is there, to choose normal subtitles or subtitles for the deaf. Why no more closed captioning? I do not know why. But I will speculate that it may cost the company less to subtitle it themselves than it is to pay a closed captioning agency to do it for them.

Thanks, Dr. Strangelove! I will take the XBOX 360 tomorrow and try it out with my Sony LCD HDTV. Can't wait to watch the HD movies. Fed up with my crappy upconverting Zenith player. Hope the HD subtitles function great and beautiful.

I believe the HD DVD format will win. Blu-ray has some real issues - expensive production, manufacturing delay due to the laser supply problem, disk sensitive to the scratch, ridicoulous double copy protection. More and more companies will support the HD DVD format in near future.

[Steel X]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

There is no closed captioning supported, you are correct. But there are now more and more "SDH" which interprets into Subtitles for the Deaf and Hard of hearing which is more like captions, being descrpitive of things like sounds that are relevant to the experience. I believe the option is there, to choose normal subtitles or subtitles for the deaf. Why no more closed captioning? I do not know why. But I will speculate that it may cost the company less to subtitle it themselves than it is to pay a closed captioning agency to do it for them.

Thats exactly what I think too since it seems more cheaper for the studios that release film on DVD to make the subtitles rather than let the FCC or CC agency do it for them.

[pubwood]

Steel X - The studios better do a professinal job of subtitling the HD movies. FCC does not require them to include the closed captions on the DVD.

[DefMATRIXense]

Originally Posted by pubwood

Steel X - The studios better do a professinal job of subtitling the HD movies. FCC does not require them to include the closed captions on the DVD.

Closed captions is too old and it is time to move on. I prefer subtitle over CC

[Foxrac]

It will be cool when most shows or new TV will including subtitles built-in then fuck to CC.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by pubwood

Hey...want to ask you a question about the subtitle on the HD movies. I am leaning to buy the XBOX 360 with the HD DVD player. I am concerned about the subtitles. Are you really happy with the HD subtitles over the orginial DVD's subtitles? Do you feel a regret that the HD DVD and Blu-Ray don't support the closed caption? Let me know. Thanks!

HD-DVD King Kong subtitle was more clearer as same as picture than regular dvd subtitles. Both movie was not included closed captioned. I will check when i get more movies of HD-DVD for closed captioned or subtitles. Will let you know.

Also I ordered new 60 inches television should be on the way. I have not play much on xbox 360 lately. Mostly of time, my daughter played. I want to get Wii for my daughter. So she can get away from my xbox 360.

[Steel X]

bought a HD-DVD with the HD-DVD "The fast and the furious" even thou the HD-DVD King Kong and Universal dvd remote obviously came with it too since it is a special edition pack.

Thank god that I got HD VGA cable for my monitor months ago and experienced gaming in true HD which is great indeed and just watched the fast and furious movie in HD which I can obviously tell the resloution is tons better than the standard dvd version. The colors are pretty smooth, you can really see the sweat and skin of the people very clearly. There werent that many other HD-DVDs that I wanted to get so I will have to wait on that for awhile.

and speaking of awhile...since I already got HD VGA to play games in HD and the HD-DVD drive to watch movies in HD, etc...I feel at this time that I dont need the HDTV since I mostly play games and watch dvds than watch tv anyway.

Maybe in the future I would try my best to buy one of those 1440p HDTVs.

Right now I think I got what is enough for me as a gamer and movie watcher so thanks to my VGA montior with HD VGA cable. I got exactly what I need.

[Banjo]

Great that you got a high-definition player. :-)

Though there's no need in getting a 1080p television set if it's under 50". Believe me, you don't because it's not that easy to see the difference between 1080i and 1080p under that size. 1080i will suit you just darn fine.

In fact, a lot of experts say so.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Yeah, what Banjo said. I have read the same thing, that under 50' is not worth worrying about 1080p. Besides, with 1440p looming, 1080p will become cheaper.

If I were you I would not worry about a TV till next or after next christmas, and I recommend a LCD for gaming, with of course, a VGA input.

[DeAfLuCkYiRiSh]

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

Yeah, what Banjo said. I have read the same thing, that under 50' is not worth worrying about 1080p. Besides, with 1440p looming, 1080p will become cheaper.

If I were you I would not worry about a TV till next or after next christmas, and I recommend a LCD for gaming, with of course, a VGA input.

I don't think 1440p is worth it. Because most channels for HDTV will go to 720p to 1080p. I doubt for HD channels will go for 1440p. Maybe in 10 years.

I bought 1080p HDTV 60 inches. I got it very good deal. And they made mistake to put on wrong price. I took advantage of it. Plus I used my work discount 10 percent off on that tv. I save over 1400 dollars. I always want big screen tv for a long long time. I got it same price as 720p HDTV. Smaller tv wont see much different. On big screen tv that you can see much difference. Reason that 1080p is good for big screen. I played GOW on my new tv. WOW! I can not describe this. Even on HD-DVD and BD looks blast!
Dvd player with hdmi still worth to buy. It can progressive to 1080i. I tested that. It is better than component. Compare to hd-dvd and bd. It is really close. Just let you know. I have experienced with those.