Should Kids On Airplanes Be Sedated?

Loghead · 10-14-2009, 04:46 PM

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At a recent workshop at UBC called “Travelling with Kids,” the subject of sedating children for long-haul flights came up. The workshop was hosted by Sallie Boschung, a Vancouver French immersion teacher who has flown extensively with her two children all around the world.

Boschung came with a list of tips for handling kids on the ground and in the air. How to spot a lost kid in the crowd? “Dress even teenagers in really bright clothing like fluorescent pink,” she told the group. For children younger than 11, tag their wrist with a hospital-type ID bracelet with an emergency number.

Boschung is against using any medication for the sole purpose of knocking a kid out on a flight, though she told Maclean’s, “I did mention that parents might consider using a decongestant for taking off and landing, in order to help unclog their child’s sinuses, thereby minimizing discomfort from changes in altitude—but first to consult with their family doctor.

One of the side effects of decongestants is they may make children drowsy and I joked that on a long flight this may have an unintentionally positive benefit.” Attending the lunch hour workshop in July was Sheila Thornton, a research scientist at UBC’s faculty of pharmaceutical sciences, because “I have a three-year-old son and my husband is Brazilian so we foresee a lot of travel in the future.” Also in attendance was her colleague, research scientist Dr. Kristina Sachs-Barrable, who has two young children.

Sachs-Barrable confessed that in June she gave Gravol to her two-year-old daughter on a return flight to Vancouver from Frankfurt. The drug did the opposite of what she’d hoped for, however, making her daughter unstoppably hyper. “I was scared,” Sachs-Barrable told Maclean’s.

“Sheila probably told you we both work in pharmaceutical sciences. We have a little bit of experience with drugs and pharmaceutical ingredients but you don’t know what the reactions are going to be under that particular circumstance.” She was hoping “she would get some rest and we’d both be rested by the time we got back home because daddy was waiting at the other end and I wanted her to be in a good mood.”

Sachs-Barrable gave Gravol in tablet form to her daughter shortly after boarding. Soon she realized, “ ‘Oh God, what have I done to my child?’ She was running up and down the aisle, hiding behind the seats, and making eye contact with everybody around her and playing peekaboo.”

“I think her child was already excited,” said Thornton. “Every child is different. Every drug response is different. With respect to Gravol, the product drug monograph states the following under the ‘adverse effects’ heading: symptoms of excitement (especially in children) have been reported.”

Yet some parents aren’t afraid to praise the benefits of inducing a child’s sleep. Canadian biologist Dr. Katherine Barrett has a blog called TwinUtero. At No. 6 in her “ten tips for international travel with kids” is “sedate the children.”

Two years ago, she and her developer husband relocated from Ottawa to South Africa. The journey with their three toddlers involved an overnight flight to London, a full-day layover in Heathrow and another overnight flight to Cape Town. The flight to Heathrow was “hellish.”

“Before the second flight, we decided to give them Gravol so we could get some rest. Parenting three young kids, especially during a transcontinental move, means we have to be functioning and responsive. We needed some sleep!” she told Maclean’s. “We gave Gravol to Alex and Thomas on the second ﬂight. Just one shot—the recommended dose. I’m reluctant to give sedation my wholesale recommendation. But this time, for us, it worked.”

Barrett says, “When it comes to sedating a child for a flight, parents are less likely to admit it than, say, [saying they gave] a dose of Advil because the child seemed hot.” Using the term “sedating,” she says, “seems more selfish and less responsible.”

Sachs-Barrable now believes her daughter’s hyper reaction was caused by stress “she inherited from my nervousness. I was sad because I had to say goodbye to my parents. I think my daughter sensed something. And then the stressful environment of the airport, and the aircraft and the noise, and I think it went boom, completely the other way.” Never again will she give Gravol to her daughter on a flight, she says. “Absolutely not. On a plane, no way.”

Should kids on planes be sedated? - *Travel - MSN CA

I don't have an opinion on this. What do you think?

Brian · 10-14-2009, 04:54 PM

I don't think so! The children need to stay awaken in case they need to protect themselves from being kidnapped or something bad happening to the planes they are in.

melissa · 10-14-2009, 05:07 PM

Why am I thinking of the film 'Flight Plan'?....

My answer = not unless it's absolutely necessary.

**sallylou** · 10-14-2009, 05:16 PM

Why stop there? Diners should be allowed to use dart guns against unruly children in restaurants. (/sarcasm)

No, children should not be drugged except for necessary medical procedures.

Oceanbreeze · 10-14-2009, 05:22 PM

This is something that is between a parent and his or her child's pediatrician. It's not for us to decide.

**sallylou** · 10-14-2009, 05:25 PM

I can't imagine that a pediatrician would prescribe meds to sedate for an airplane ride. Maybe one of the drs on AD will inform us whether they would.

rockin'robin · 10-14-2009, 09:01 PM

I don't think so unless it's medically advised. Some kids are naturally hyper, and a pain in the butt, on planes and off. We have to deal with all sorts of people, overweight, talkative, sick, being a nuence, many things.

Mrs Bucket · 10-15-2009, 04:38 AM

May as well drug an overweight DeafBlind person like me and when the plane crashes in the water.. who is going to contend with me?

I'm already a liability in several ways.

-overweight
-DeafBlind
-cannot contribute equally during an emergency

Try to sedate me and you've got a whole can of worms to deal with.

Now try that with parents and children. Sedating children should never be an option at all. Naturally parents think of how others will think of their children. Children are not meant to be controlled.

Children cannot handle their emotions when they are exposed to different extremities and they need to have an outlet ie. creativity outlets. Older people can adjust themselves by ignoring the children.

To tell the children to "be quiet", "sit down", "go to sleep", only hinders the problem and adds more to the stress level. Adults can tell themselves "Ignore it", "Don't look at the child."

Frisky Feline · 10-15-2009, 04:50 AM

Silly thought of giving medicine to kids to be silent for the airplane purpose. either they don't go or go without having a medicine.

**sallylou** · 10-15-2009, 03:01 PM

When my kids were young, I prepared very carefully for plane trips. We would fly Frontier because they had the TVs on the back of the seats. Swipe a credit card and you've got cartoons for the flight. I would take travel toys, ring pops (they can't scream with one in their mouth), magnetic toys, etc. My eldest used to get in the seat and ask, "Mommy, what did you bring me that's fun to do?" It worked most of the time. No kid is perfect.

Now, the security and the flight delays make traveling with children more challenging. The airlines keep passengers on the tarmac forever. Adults can't cope with being stuck on in the plane so long, let alone kids.

**Jolie77** · 10-15-2009, 06:32 PM

I don't think the children should be sedated for flying on the airplane. It just only adds up the tension. Yes, it may be tempting and makes it easier for the children to zonk out just so that way the parents and others have the comfort of not dealing w/ the hassle of tending after a child on a flight.

But, If the children were to be explained beforehand that they are going on an airplane; The parents should have to set a plan or a foundation in order to make the child understand what is allowed to do or what is not allowed to do on the airplane. That would be a lot better than just sedating the child with no explanation at all.

whatdidyousay! · 10-15-2009, 06:52 PM

Should Kids On Airplanes Be Sedated? I hope people are joking!!!
This could put a child at great risk! What if the child got air sick and did not wake up they could choke to death! And like someone else said a child could get molested while they're knockout! There so so many reasons why this is an insane idea!

Babyblue · 10-15-2009, 07:02 PM

You all make it sound like kids are not even supervised on a plane. If they are with their parents... and they suffer from anxiety or some other medical reason that they may need to be sedated then I can understand.

I do like the Idea of the braclet. I went to a couple of large events in the Tampa Bay area. Most of them require a form to be filled out.. That form has a code on it.. If the child gets lost or something happens. The security can punch in the code number on the child's bracelet.. and the emergency contact numbers are drawn up for them to contact family members.

As for me.. I have to be sedated to be on a plane.. Dramamine, is also very sedative to prevent motion sickness.

It really depends on the circumstances.

**shel90** · 10-15-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sallylou

When my kids were young, I prepared very carefully for plane trips. We would fly Frontier because they had the TVs on the back of the seats. Swipe a credit card and you've got cartoons for the flight. I would take travel toys, ring pops (they can't scream with one in their mouth), magnetic toys, etc. My eldest used to get in the seat and ask, "Mommy, what did you bring me that's fun to do?" It worked most of the time. No kid is perfect.

Now, the security and the flight delays make traveling with children more challenging. The airlines keep passengers on the tarmac forever. Adults can't cope with being stuck on in the plane so long, let alone kids.

So in essence, the airlines are asking for more problems and quick fixes to solving them.

**shel90** · 10-15-2009, 07:14 PM

I usually try to keep my kids awake or as active for hours before boarding a plane so they would be tired and more calm. It usually works. One time, I kept my son up until past midnight for a 5 AM flight to AZ. He slept alll the way from MD to AZ. It was hard to keep him up that late because we usually have a strict sleeping schedule for him. I dont think sedating the kids is the answer but that's not for me to decide for others because I dont know what their circumstances are.

Babyblue · 10-15-2009, 08:29 PM

I have to give myself, and my Daughter Dramamine before we go on a fishing trip... They make you drowsy...

So does that make me an awful parent to do so.. Since my daughter enjoys fishing? Knowing that Dramamine makes you drowsy?

**LDNanna** · 10-15-2009, 08:43 PM

Pbllt. Most kids should be sedated until they are 21. sigh....

Lol (just kidding.. uh... yeah...kidding..)

DeafCaver · 10-15-2009, 09:11 PM

I will flat out seriously say NO!

Parents should be responsible for maintaining order of their kids and keeping them occupied or preoccupied during the flight so they don't get bored, cranky or whatever... what the hell is the matter with that kind of thinking that kids should be sedated?
Doesn't any one realize just how tricky and DANGEROUS it is to sedate a kid? Metabolic rates vary widely from child to child and it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to ascertain the correct amount of dosage to a child.
If the child has confirmed ADD or HDD or other medical condition are they going to do a Michael Jackson on them?

Stupid idea conceived by lazy impatient uncaring people!

Babyblue · 10-15-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaver

I will flat out seriously say NO!

Parents should be responsible for maintaining order of their kids and keeping them occupied or preoccupied during the flight so they don't get bored, cranky or whatever... what the hell is the matter with that kind of thinking that kids should be sedated?
Doesn't any one realize just how tricky and DANGEROUS it is to sedate a kid? Metabolic rates vary widely from child to child and it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to ascertain the correct amount of dosage to a child.
If the child has confirmed ADD or HDD or other medical condition are they going to do a Michael Jackson on them?

Stupid idea conceived by lazy impatient uncaring people!

What if the child has a fear of flying... or get motion sickness?

Or if that child has a disorder that will produce a major scene on an airplane that the parent knows that the child will be disruptive.

People always complain of disruptive kids in restaurants.. Those parents can always leave with their child.. But once you are on a plane... some trips are very, very long!!!

Something to ponder.... I would say... it depends on the situation.

DeafCaver · 10-15-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

What if the child has a fear of flying... or get motion sickness?

Or if that child has a disorder that will produce a major scene on an airplane that the parent knows that the child will be disruptive.

People always complain of disruptive kids in restaurants.. Those parents can always leave with their child.. But once you are on a plane... some trips are very, very long!!!

Something to ponder.... I would say... it depends on the situation.

Well there is that of course but that is special case ... yet still parents still have the RESPONSIBILITY to know this about their child in advance and find a way to help the child cope with it or find an alternate way to travel.
Motion sickness can be taken care of with out a sedative... they have pills for that.

CJB · 10-15-2009, 10:57 PM

Only if the child has a phobia of flying and there is no other way to travel.

~*Kaelei*~ · 10-16-2009, 12:29 AM

No way, I wouldn't do that to my child. I already flew to Alaska with my son who was at 8 months old at the time... he slept most of the way on his own, and I flew to Washington with my son who was 14 months old and step daughter who was 12 at the time by myself, and it went good most of the part but at the end, he was throwing fit because his sleep was disturbed. I flew to Florida with my son who was two years old, and that was 6 hours flight.... it was hard to keep him entrained most of the time, to keep him in his seat but I managed and thankfully he slept the last two hours of the trip to Florida. On the way back home from Florida, which was 8 hours trip, he slept most of the way there but still, I managed to keep him seated and entertained just with DVD player and DVDs.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that You don't need to put kids to sleep with drugs... you just have to give them your attention and keep them entertained. With Young kids, I would take Red Eye Flight... which I did most of the time with my son, as the kids would most likely sleep most of the flight if it was Red Eye on their own.

However, if I was to travel to Europe which is likely to happen in the future, I would most likely give my son like allergy medication that would make it drownsy, and perhaps he'll fall asleep due to drownsy.

Royale · 10-16-2009, 11:33 AM

Sedated? Not needed.

Two months ago I went aboard a Air Canada flight for a long trip to Australia and I saw a couple of couples with kids. One of them had five kids with them and both couples brought alot of books, DVDs and toys. They sat not far from me and the kids seem to be comfortable and fine.

**sallylou** · 10-16-2009, 01:35 PM

Let's sedate the cranky adults instead.

**Rio** · 10-16-2009, 11:26 PM

I remember, one time I was flying from KY to Minnesota. I will never forget this lady and her daughter. Passengers were so rude, bec the daughter had a disability and was hyper. She wouldn't sit still for a second. I don't think sedating her would be ideal. Just the people around were so rude and making ugly faces. The crew were very nice and helpful. I was the neighboring passenger sitting next to them. Eventually, she calmed down and was ready to take off.

**sallylou** · 10-16-2009, 11:35 PM

It's a sad commentary when people are mean to a special needs kid just because it inconveniences them a little.

**Rio** · 10-16-2009, 11:56 PM

Yes, it is sad for people to be so rude.

inspirabull · 10-17-2009, 12:17 AM

As a child flights out of Alaska were long gruelling events, lots of turbulence, long layovers, long flights. My sisters were stuck with being adult supervision of me while they were kids themselves. We had a lot of- well- lets just say we all did the best we could except me- I was a major brat. This one trip I am recalling upon reading this; the idea of something to kind of power me down a
little was tried. My sisters were packing, a new secret weapon to get through another nightmare journey from hell with, who me? Their orders were to give me a spoonful of this stuff out of the little brown bottle if I started getting to be too much. It was not long into the journey that little brown bottle came out.
And again. And again. When I went down at first my sisters I am sure were just simply relieved but later I heard that they got mighty worried - little brother was down and out solidly unconscious for several hours, had to be carried off the flight and through the whole baggage process and woke up in my grandparents car. That was the end of that idea. It was another soul searing experience for my sisters - they really did think they had caused me damage. And who knows maybe they did? I know I didn't pass by many brown bottles until I finally did altogether another 20 some years later.

CJB · 10-17-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sallylou

Let's sedate the cranky adults instead.

**Rio** · 10-17-2009, 12:32 AM

that's funny Sallylou

10-14-2009, 04:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brian Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,750	I don't think so! The children need to stay awaken in case they need to protect themselves from being kidnapped or something bad happening to the planes they are in. Buffalo likes this.

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sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	Why stop there? Diners should be allowed to use dart guns against unruly children in restaurants. (/sarcasm) No, children should not be drugged except for necessary medical procedures. __________________

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Oceanbreeze Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 9,967	This is something that is between a parent and his or her child's pediatrician. It's not for us to decide. __________________ "There comes a time in your life, when you walk away from all the drama and people who create it. You surround yourself with people who make you laugh. Forget the bad, and focus on the good. Love the people who treat you right, pray for the ones who don't. Life is too short to be anything but happy. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living."

10-14-2009, 05:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	I can't imagine that a pediatrician would prescribe meds to sedate for an airplane ride. Maybe one of the drs on AD will inform us whether they would. __________________

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10-14-2009, 05:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
melissa Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cheshire, UK. Posts: 310	Why am I thinking of the film 'Flight Plan'?.... My answer = not unless it's absolutely necessary.

10-14-2009, 09:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,309	I don't think so unless it's medically advised. Some kids are naturally hyper, and a pain in the butt, on planes and off. We have to deal with all sorts of people, overweight, talkative, sick, being a nuence, many things.

10-15-2009, 04:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mrs Bucket Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,941	May as well drug an overweight DeafBlind person like me and when the plane crashes in the water.. who is going to contend with me? I'm already a liability in several ways. -overweight -DeafBlind -cannot contribute equally during an emergency Try to sedate me and you've got a whole can of worms to deal with. Now try that with parents and children. Sedating children should never be an option at all. Naturally parents think of how others will think of their children. Children are not meant to be controlled. Children cannot handle their emotions when they are exposed to different extremities and they need to have an outlet ie. creativity outlets. Older people can adjust themselves by ignoring the children. To tell the children to "be quiet", "sit down", "go to sleep", only hinders the problem and adds more to the stress level. Adults can tell themselves "Ignore it", "Don't look at the child."

10-15-2009, 03:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	When my kids were young, I prepared very carefully for plane trips. We would fly Frontier because they had the TVs on the back of the seats. Swipe a credit card and you've got cartoons for the flight. I would take travel toys, ring pops (they can't scream with one in their mouth), magnetic toys, etc. My eldest used to get in the seat and ask, "Mommy, what did you bring me that's fun to do?" It worked most of the time. No kid is perfect. Now, the security and the flight delays make traveling with children more challenging. The airlines keep passengers on the tarmac forever. Adults can't cope with being stuck on in the plane so long, let alone kids. __________________

10-15-2009, 06:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jolie77 Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kentucky, USA (The Bluegrass State) Posts: 8,514 Blog Entries: 1	I don't think the children should be sedated for flying on the airplane. It just only adds up the tension. Yes, it may be tempting and makes it easier for the children to zonk out just so that way the parents and others have the comfort of not dealing w/ the hassle of tending after a child on a flight. But, If the children were to be explained beforehand that they are going on an airplane; The parents should have to set a plan or a foundation in order to make the child understand what is allowed to do or what is not allowed to do on the airplane. That would be a lot better than just sedating the child with no explanation at all. __________________ Isaiah 33:6 - "He will be the sure foundation for your times, a rich store of salvation and wisdom and knowledge; the fear of the Lord is the key to this treasure."

10-15-2009, 06:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
whatdidyousay! Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 8,630	Should Kids On Airplanes Be Sedated? I hope people are joking!!! This could put a child at great risk! What if the child got air sick and did not wake up they could choke to death! And like someone else said a child could get molested while they're knockout! There so so many reasons why this is an insane idea!

10-15-2009, 07:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12,001	You all make it sound like kids are not even supervised on a plane. If they are with their parents... and they suffer from anxiety or some other medical reason that they may need to be sedated then I can understand. I do like the Idea of the braclet. I went to a couple of large events in the Tampa Bay area. Most of them require a form to be filled out.. That form has a code on it.. If the child gets lost or something happens. The security can punch in the code number on the child's bracelet.. and the emergency contact numbers are drawn up for them to contact family members. As for me.. I have to be sedated to be on a plane.. Dramamine, is also very sedative to prevent motion sickness. It really depends on the circumstances. Oceanbreeze likes this.

10-15-2009, 07:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,303 Blog Entries: 3	I usually try to keep my kids awake or as active for hours before boarding a plane so they would be tired and more calm. It usually works. One time, I kept my son up until past midnight for a 5 AM flight to AZ. He slept alll the way from MD to AZ. It was hard to keep him up that late because we usually have a strict sleeping schedule for him. I dont think sedating the kids is the answer but that's not for me to decide for others because I dont know what their circumstances are. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

10-15-2009, 08:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12,001	I have to give myself, and my Daughter Dramamine before we go on a fishing trip... They make you drowsy... So does that make me an awful parent to do so.. Since my daughter enjoys fishing? Knowing that Dramamine makes you drowsy? Oceanbreeze likes this.

10-15-2009, 08:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
LDNanna Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,688	Pbllt. Most kids should be sedated until they are 21. sigh.... Lol (just kidding.. uh... yeah...kidding..) Babyblue likes this.

10-15-2009, 09:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
DeafCaver Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 230	I will flat out seriously say NO! Parents should be responsible for maintaining order of their kids and keeping them occupied or preoccupied during the flight so they don't get bored, cranky or whatever... what the hell is the matter with that kind of thinking that kids should be sedated? Doesn't any one realize just how tricky and DANGEROUS it is to sedate a kid? Metabolic rates vary widely from child to child and it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to ascertain the correct amount of dosage to a child. If the child has confirmed ADD or HDD or other medical condition are they going to do a Michael Jackson on them? Stupid idea conceived by lazy impatient uncaring people! __________________ Hey look cool pics: http://ralph.rigidtech.com

10-15-2009, 10:57 PM	#21 (permalink)
CJB Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,767	Only if the child has a phobia of flying and there is no other way to travel.

10-16-2009, 12:29 AM	#22 (permalink)
~Kaelei~ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, Washington Posts: 1,571	No way, I wouldn't do that to my child. I already flew to Alaska with my son who was at 8 months old at the time... he slept most of the way on his own, and I flew to Washington with my son who was 14 months old and step daughter who was 12 at the time by myself, and it went good most of the part but at the end, he was throwing fit because his sleep was disturbed. I flew to Florida with my son who was two years old, and that was 6 hours flight.... it was hard to keep him entrained most of the time, to keep him in his seat but I managed and thankfully he slept the last two hours of the trip to Florida. On the way back home from Florida, which was 8 hours trip, he slept most of the way there but still, I managed to keep him seated and entertained just with DVD player and DVDs. I guess what I'm trying to say is that You don't need to put kids to sleep with drugs... you just have to give them your attention and keep them entertained. With Young kids, I would take Red Eye Flight... which I did most of the time with my son, as the kids would most likely sleep most of the flight if it was Red Eye on their own. However, if I was to travel to Europe which is likely to happen in the future, I would most likely give my son like allergy medication that would make it drownsy, and perhaps he'll fall asleep due to drownsy. __________________

10-16-2009, 11:33 AM	#23 (permalink)
Royale Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: World's Second Coldest Capital City! Posts: 4,418	Sedated? Not needed. Two months ago I went aboard a Air Canada flight for a long trip to Australia and I saw a couple of couples with kids. One of them had five kids with them and both couples brought alot of books, DVDs and toys. They sat not far from me and the kids seem to be comfortable and fine.

10-16-2009, 01:35 PM	#24 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	Let's sedate the cranky adults instead. Buffalo, cmdrwhitewolf, GrendelQ and 1 others like this. __________________

10-16-2009, 11:26 PM	#25 (permalink)
Rio Patriots Rock! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Patriots lockerroom Posts: 12,247 Blog Entries: 59	I remember, one time I was flying from KY to Minnesota. I will never forget this lady and her daughter. Passengers were so rude, bec the daughter had a disability and was hyper. She wouldn't sit still for a second. I don't think sedating her would be ideal. Just the people around were so rude and making ugly faces. The crew were very nice and helpful. I was the neighboring passenger sitting next to them. Eventually, she calmed down and was ready to take off. __________________ Ps.103:12 He washes our sins away into the ocean Brady's back Proverbs 17:9 Love prospers when a fault is forgiven, but dwelling on it separates close friends

10-16-2009, 11:35 PM	#26 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	It's a sad commentary when people are mean to a special needs kid just because it inconveniences them a little. cmdrwhitewolf likes this. __________________

10-16-2009, 11:56 PM	#27 (permalink)
Rio Patriots Rock! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Patriots lockerroom Posts: 12,247 Blog Entries: 59	Yes, it is sad for people to be so rude. __________________ Ps.103:12 He washes our sins away into the ocean Brady's back Proverbs 17:9 Love prospers when a fault is forgiven, but dwelling on it separates close friends

10-17-2009, 12:17 AM	#28 (permalink)
inspirabull Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 434	then and now As a child flights out of Alaska were long gruelling events, lots of turbulence, long layovers, long flights. My sisters were stuck with being adult supervision of me while they were kids themselves. We had a lot of- well- lets just say we all did the best we could except me- I was a major brat. This one trip I am recalling upon reading this; the idea of something to kind of power me down a little was tried. My sisters were packing, a new secret weapon to get through another nightmare journey from hell with, who me? Their orders were to give me a spoonful of this stuff out of the little brown bottle if I started getting to be too much. It was not long into the journey that little brown bottle came out. And again. And again. When I went down at first my sisters I am sure were just simply relieved but later I heard that they got mighty worried - little brother was down and out solidly unconscious for several hours, had to be carried off the flight and through the whole baggage process and woke up in my grandparents car. That was the end of that idea. It was another soul searing experience for my sisters - they really did think they had caused me damage. And who knows maybe they did? I know I didn't pass by many brown bottles until I finally did altogether another 20 some years later.

10-17-2009, 12:32 AM	#30 (permalink)
Rio Patriots Rock! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Patriots lockerroom Posts: 12,247 Blog Entries: 59	that's funny Sallylou __________________ Ps.103:12 He washes our sins away into the ocean Brady's back Proverbs 17:9 Love prospers when a fault is forgiven, but dwelling on it separates close friends

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