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**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 05:20 AM

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That is how I greeted strangers as well.

Are you not able to follow the conversation? I explained to you how people greeted. Many Americans have different way of greetings.

Yes I explained the difference greeting to strangers between Germany and America in my previous postS... What's your point?

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 05:20 AM

You missed my re-edit.

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you still have not answered my 2 questions.
1. How many words are there in the list?
2. What did you do when the homeowner said HELLO! Be honest - did you get scared because you thought he/she might shoot you?

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes I explained the difference greeting to strangers between Germany and America... What's your point?

They said Hello. You said - we do it differently in Germany by saying Good Morning. We do say Good Morning too. I don't see how is it different between America and Germany in terms of greeting. I'm not sure I understand what's your point?

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 05:28 AM

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You missed my re-edit.
You missed my re-edit.

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you still have not answered my 2 questions.
1. How many words are there in the list?
2. What did you do when the homeowner said HELLO! Be honest - did you get scared because you thought he/she might shoot you?

Why should I repeat when I answered your stupid and nonsense questions in previous posts, dont' I ?

Again, please show me where I say anything that I scare when they make small greeting hint to me. We european consider it as a normal... and reply back to them the same... Please go back and re-read instead of assume anything...

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 05:29 AM

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They said Hello. You said - we do it differently in Germany by saying Good Morning. We do say Good Morning too. I don't see how is it different between America and Germany in terms of greeting. I'm not sure I understand what's your point?

We talk about "talk with strangers", not about friends, co-workers, etc. Of course we said Hello,

, shake the hands or kiss both cheek to my friends, co-workers, family... What's your point?

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

We talk about "talk with strangers", not about friends, co-workers, etc. Of course we said Hello,

, shake the hands or kiss both cheek to my friends, co-workers, family... What's your point?

and do you do same for strangers? That's what we do to strangers. (well not hugging and kissing). That's my point.

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 05:41 AM

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Why should I repeat when I answered your stupid and nonsense questions in previous posts, dont' I ?

Again, please show me where I say anything that I scare when they make small greeting hint to me. We european consider it as a normal... Please go back and re-read instead of assume anything...

what's there to read back? All you said is:

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I look at their houses when I walk on the path instead of over their property and got the house owners look at me and said "hello"... normally I should say "good morning" which I did here in Germany but in America is different...

That did not answer my question of what did you do when homeowner said HELLO to you. And your previous posts were:

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Huh? No, we don´t shoot the strangers for come in our house property but Americans.

We were raised to not talk to strangers, we don´t know. Many American children and adult are being killed and rape by intruders don´t they? Who is intruder, of course bad stranger. That´s why we are carefully to judge stranger before we can talk with them.

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I remind you that American also shoot strangers for go in their house property...

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I only said that it's American's way for shoot the strangers for go in their property.

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No matter, they do shoot strangers because they thought they are intruders... and some bad strangers are also intruders, too...

One can easily conclude that you did not converse with the homeowner because you thought the homeowner was going to shoot you. You still have not told me what did you do when the homeowner said HELLO to you.

Again - this is an easy question to answer. DID YOU or DID YOU NOT talk to homeowner?
No I'm not talking about GOOD MORNING/HELLO and that's it. You look like you were enjoying looking at his/her house because maybe it looks pretty and all. The homeowner came out and said HELLO! Did you TALK to neighbor or did you walk away suddenly?

The more you avoid, the more you confirmed our suspicion that you are still disrespecting our culture by continuing to think of American stereotype that we shoot at strangers.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 05:46 AM

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and do you do same for strangers? That's what we do to strangers. (well not hugging and kissing). That's my point.

No, we don't

, kiss both cheek, shake the hands or hello to the strangers in the public, we never see and meet before but neighbors, friends, co-workers, etc.

To strangers, we made small greeting hint, "Good morning" when we look each other... or smile each other... In America, we greeted each other "Hello"...

But...we were at different countries... and saw same people everyday for weeks or month holiday.... until end of our holiday... we

each other...

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

No, we don't

, kiss both cheek, shake the hands or hello to the strangers in the public, we never see and meet before but neighbors, friends, co-workers, etc.

To strangers, we made small greeting hint, "Good morning" when we look each other... or smile each other... In America, we greeted each other "Hello"...

But...we were at different countries... and saw same people everyday for weeks or month holiday.... until end of our holiday... we

each other...

exactly my point. We smile/wave to strangers and if we do talk, we shake hands and exchange our names. That is American culture and American custom of greeting. I am not saying your culture is bad. It's perfectly fine and every culture is different but point is - this is AMERICAN CULTURE and you're saying - No it's not! It's mentality!

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 05:52 AM

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what's there to read back? All you said is:

That did not answer my question of what did you do when homeowner said HELLO to you. And your previous posts were:

wow, you made yourself a liar. I didn't response this to your question because Americans made greeting hint "hello" to me...

You pasted the quotes of my response posts to Reba to twist my words here... Those posts, I made is RESPONSED to Reba because she started to "question" me that Europeans are parniod to talk with strangers, that's how I remind her that if we are paraniod as what she think but we don't shoot the stranger for come in my property but american does.

Please re-read my response to your question, not Reba's question...

Nice try...

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 05:54 AM

continuing to avoid my simple question..... lalalalalaaaaaa.... I have nothing more to say.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 05:55 AM

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One can easily conclude that you did not converse with the homeowner because you thought the homeowner was going to shoot you. You still have not told me what did you do when the homeowner said HELLO to you.

Again - this is an easy question to answer. DID YOU or DID YOU NOT talk to homeowner?
No I'm not talking about GOOD MORNING/HELLO and that's it. You look like you were enjoying looking at his/her house because maybe it looks pretty and all. The homeowner came out and said HELLO! Did you TALK to neighbor or did you walk away suddenly?

The more you avoid, the more you confirmed our suspicion that you are still disrespecting our culture by continuing to think of American stereotype that we shoot at strangers.

Like what I said at my earlier post, that I'm not paraniod when I am aware of US Gun culture before visit there. I read about America's culture and menatlity to respect them.

I have no paraniod feeling when American greeted me with small hint "Hello"... I replied back to them in manner way.

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Like what I said at my earlier post, that I'm not paraniod when I am aware of US Gun culture before visit there. I read about America's culture and menatlity to respect them.

I have no paraniod feeling when American greeted me with small hint "Hello"... I replied back to them in manner way.

If you were aware of American culture and its so-called mentality... why did you not take opportunity of it by conversing with homeowner to talk about his/her house? Obviously... you stood long enough to look at his/her house and that made the homeowner to come out. Something must have interested you to look at the house for a while.

Remember the link you gave us? How to Understand Basic American Culture -- for Foreign Visitors | eHow.com

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Conversation: Americans love to talk and generally it is OK to talk even to strangers about nearly any subject at any time as long as you are polite.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 06:02 AM

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exactly my point. We smile/wave to strangers and if we do talk, we shake hands and exchange our names. That is American culture and American custom of greeting. I am not saying your culture is bad. It's perfectly fine and every culture is different but point is - this is AMERICAN CULTURE and you're saying - No it's not! It's mentality!

Accord my co-worker, this is American custom. Re-read my response post to Reba over mentality.

The link, I provided is American's culture way of greeting each other like "Hello, how are you"... , and learn about American's custom way of greeting like that...

I do not disrespect America's culture or any countries' culture but find their different culture interesting...

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Accord my co-worker, this is American custom. Re-read my response post to Reba over mentality.

The link, I provided is American's culture way of greeting each other like "Hello, how are you"... , and learn about American's custom way of greeting like that...

I do not disrespect America's culture or any countries' culture but find their different culture interesting...

noooooowwwww we're getting there!

You're beginning to understand that it's an American culture! not "mentality"

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 06:20 AM

Don't forget - just because Americans didn't act like what it was said in the link is doesn't mean it's not true about what we said about American culture. It's because the Americans act with courtesy in respect to German culture.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 06:23 AM

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If you were aware of American culture and its so-called mentality... why did you not take opportunity of it by conversing with homeowner to talk about his/her house? Obviously... you stood long enough to look at his/her house and that made the homeowner to come out. Something must have interested you to look at the house for a while.

Remember the link you gave us? How to Understand Basic American Culture -- for Foreign Visitors | eHow.com

It's not my type to make first move... I only do if necassary... like ask for permission to take a picture.

I realized that I forget to add my previous posts that I asked American houseowner permission to take picture of his beautiful house when I saw him outside at his property.. He knew straight that I'm not an American accord my different mentatliy and voice. He was friendly to me and said that I can take a picture of his house. I did. (I want to show the picture of US houses to my familiy). After finish, I

him.. He said it's his pleasure and wave... it's only once. I took pictures of houses with streets... He did not chat with me but just friendly hint... Hello, ... Yes... Welcome.... Bye... that's all.

I walked slowly and look right and left the houseswhen the neighborhood saw me and hello to me... I said back to them... no more....... instead of stand longer to stare them... it would make me feel rude if I do that because I don't know them.

It's me.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 06:28 AM

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noooooowwwww we're getting there!

You're beginning to understand that it's an American culture! not "mentality"

Actually, but you should accurate your posts in previous post, instead of just said "talk strangers friendly is a America's culture"... My co-workers are also :scratch:, too... I thought you or Reba would read my response post to Sunshinelady what I know of American's small hint of greeting... but none... continue debate... debate... until I showed you the link this morning... at LAST!!! Yes, I agree that American's hint of greeting is also part of America's culture....

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**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 06:31 AM

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Don't forget - just because Americans didn't act like what it was said in the link is doesn't mean it's not true about what we said about American culture. It's because the Americans act with courtesy in respect to German culture.

The 2 links, I posted last week is not negative? To me, it's not negative but positive and interesting one.

Do you feel being negative by the 2 links of America's culture, I posted last week? Can you please explain your point why you feel being negative ?

Until I found positive link for third time today... you and Reba are happy with that..., not 2 links of last week?

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

It's not my type to make first move... I only do if necassary... like ask for permission to take a picture.

Completely understandable! Americans DO tend to make first move in foreign country.... which is why you read some posts that the Russians or other countries thought suspiciously.

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

I realized that I forget to add my previous posts that I asked American houseowner permission to take picture of his beautiful house when I saw him outside at his property.. He knew straight that I'm not an American accord my different mentatliy and voice. He was friendly to me and said that I can take a picture of his house. I did. (I want to show the picture of US houses to my familiy). After finish, I

him.. He said it's his pleasure and wave... it's only once. I took pictures of houses with streets... He did not chat with me but just friendly hint... Hello, ... Yes... Welcome.... Bye... that's all.

I walked slowly and look right and left the houseswhen the neighborhood saw me and hello to me... I said back to them... no more....... instead of stand longer to stare them... it would make me feel rude if I do that because I don't know them.

It's me.

There you go!!!

for your good answer! Now you know that we just don't shoot at strangers

Of course not every homeowners in America are like that but it is rare for homeowners just shoot at strangers even though they didn't pose any threat. yes it is bit awkward to stare at house long time but as long as you explained to them that you love their house... that's ok! It's American culture, not mentality. We simply love to brag to strangers about our homes, cars, etc. (only if it's something special) because we like to have good time! There's no doubt that if homeowner can sign, he would love to tell you everything about his house. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he invited you and your family over for a dinner!

Not all Americans shares same culture but the MAJORITY of Americans do... which is why it's called American culture. Yes you are correct that America has MANY races and MANY cultures together but there is ONE same culture in America that ALL races & cultures in America share.

If you're ever in America again like New York City, sorry but I don't have much to brag for you... I don't have a nice house nor a nice garden but I do have a dog and motorcycle to brag!

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

The 2 links, I posted last week is not negative? To me, it's not negative but positive and interesting one.

Do you feel being negative by the 2 links of America's culture, I posted last week? Can you please explain your point why you feel being negative ?

Until I found positive link for third time today... you and Reba are happy with that..., not 2 links of last week?

You mean this link?

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It explains what American culture is about.

WHAT IS AMERICAN CULTURE?

Culture of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1st link is kinda stupid. These statements quoted by kids are just a repeat from what they read in history book and the movies they saw... they don't know anything much. When they are grown up - they will know more and better about what is American culture and they can describe "American Culture" much better.

2nd link doesn't really describe much about American culture sociologically and anthropologically.

Your 3rd link that you posted yesterday is a MUCH better and more accurate description of American culture. It's a very good link.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 06:57 AM

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Completely understandable! Americans DO tend to make first move in foreign country.... which is why you read some posts that the Russians or other countries thought suspiciously.

Yes, I noticed it, too. It doesn't mean that Russians or other countries have bad thought or suspiciously them... but I would say that it's our "withdraw"/"overreact"... and did not use it... It's us, not Americans... We (most Europeans) know it's American's sterotypes when we see them in Europe countries...

Some Europeans (including myself) consider it as rude when Americans made small greeting hint "Hello how are you" until we replied "fine"... then go off... they get "offend" when I replied "not good"... I has to give them fake answer that I'm fine when I don't get well... Oh well, it doesn't bother me really... it's them... I get used of their way like that. I work for US Government for almost 23 years and get use their ways... they all have different personality.../characters.../sterotypes... menatlity... I have seen them come and go every 2 to 3 years...

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There you go!!!

for your good answer! Now you know that we just don't shoot at strangers

Of course not every homeowners in America are like that but it is rare for homeowners just shoot at strangers even though they didn't pose any threat. yes it is bit awkward to stare at house long time but as long as you explained to them that you love their house... that's ok! It's American culture, not mentality. We simply love to brag to strangers about our homes, cars, etc. (only if it's something special) because we like to have good time!

Yes I know and am aware of it...

Your post make me laugh... Yes I know they would not shoot me as a foreign stranger...

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Not all Americans shares same culture but the MAJORITY of Americans do... which is why it's called American culture. Yes you are correct that America has MANY races and MANY cultures together but there is ONE same culture in America that ALL races & cultures in America share.

Yes, I am aware that it call America's culture... I don't mind to learn different culture there in America when I want to visit different states in USA again... I find interesting to collect different culture in USA than just one culture. It mean that we would stay in USA for long months to learn their culture, not just few weeks to one month... My brother in law visited all around the USA for 4 months in 1988. Most of my friends did for 2 to 6 months there... I envied them...

I know I will when my boys are over 18 years old.

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If you're ever in America again like New York City, sorry but I don't have much to brag for you... I don't have a nice house nor a nice garden but I do have a dog and motorcycle to brag!

It's you and your dog, I come to see, not your house...

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 07:04 AM

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It's you and your dog, I come to see, not your house...

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My dog will definitely brag to you about his house

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 07:10 AM

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You mean this link?

Yes

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1st link is kinda stupid. These statements quoted by kids are just a repeat from what they read in history book and the movies they saw... they don't know anything much. When they are grown up - they will know more and better about what is American culture and they can describe "American Culture" much better.

2nd link doesn't really describe much about American culture sociologically and anthropologically.

Your 3rd link that you posted yesterday is a MUCH better and more accurate description of American culture. It's a very good link.

Oh I get it. It doesn't mean that 1st link is stupid but just their impression for their view on America's culture and see what they feel. I was being taught to know there're many cultures in USA. It's almost same what 1st link said but it doesn't mean that they are negative... but really positive and interesting, IMO.

2nd link, yes I has to agree with you that it's not much to write than I know but you can find "references" in that sources about American's culture.

It's good that you like 3rd link better... Willkommen

...

It's good education for us to debate agree to disagree each other.

**Liebling:-)))** · 11-25-2008, 07:11 AM

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My dog will definitely brag to you about his house

awwwww....

, you have a lovely home, dog...

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 07:16 AM

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Oh I get it. It doesn't mean that 1st link is stupid but just their impression for their view on America's culture and see what they feel. I was being taught to know there're many cultures in USA. It's almost same what 1st link said but it doesn't mean that they are negative... but really positive and interesting, IMO.

I quickly skimmed thru the 1st link and I don't see anything negative. That's the thing. They're repeating what they read in history books. That's why I said it's kinda stupid. I know America has some flaws such as gun crimes, drug laws, pollution, and many mores.... and I want to hear negative things about America. that's the beauty thing about Freedom of Speech. We are free to speak negative of our government and country.... that's how we try to improve ourselves. You've already seen in news about what happened to people who speak negative of their government and country. It's scary

**Foxrac** · 11-25-2008, 09:59 AM

Jiro, are you moving to southeast US in near future? Just curious.

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 10:01 AM

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Jiro, are you moving to southeast US in near future? Just curious.

who knows?

I'm quite fond of PA (Philadelphia area) and of course its lax laws and cheap taxes. For now - I'm not even thinking about moving or buying a house because I'm not in a serious relationship nor engaged. I'm fine living at home with my family especially seeing my bank account growing and growing

**Foxrac** · 11-25-2008, 10:09 AM

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who knows?

I'm quite fond of PA (Philadelphia area) and of course its lax laws and cheap taxes.

You can move if want too, long as you find good job that satisfied to you.

TN and KY are nice place to live, despite on heavily socially conservative.

**Jiro** · 11-25-2008, 10:10 AM

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You can move if want too, long as you find good job that satisfied to you.

TN and KY are nice place to live, despite on heavily socially conservative.

sorry not interested in TN or KY lol. I prefer coastal zone or metro-area.

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Jiro Aparecium Deletrius Legil Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Soprano State Posts: 61,221	Don't forget - just because Americans didn't act like what it was said in the link is doesn't mean it's not true about what we said about American culture. It's because the Americans act with courtesy in respect to German culture.