Caves

ChelEler · 07-01-2003, 12:58 PM

Hey have you been to any natural caves (not mines nor man-made underground)? If so, where? What is/are your favorite cave(s)?

I have been to almost all caves in South Dakota (in BlackHill area) and one in Missouri (can't remember the name, but it has something to do with Jesse James's hiding place). I don't have any favorite caves yet, because I love them all! My family and I are going into caves again this weekend.

Lasza · 07-01-2003, 01:12 PM

Yes, I went huge cave in Carlsbad, New Mexico 10 years ago. Whoa very huge and pretty cold inside.

Done went another cave near Austin, Texas. Pretty cold and show something so strange like fossil there.

First time, I went tiny cave (non-tourist service) somewhere in Austin, TX. But not safe cuz of some bats inside. My friend and I went inside. i see my friend's breath like white and very coldy. then come back so quickly.

Like to come inside the cave during summer. Whoa feel chill. My fave cave is Carlsbad, NM.

***Brian*** · 07-01-2003, 01:17 PM

Yeah. I have been to several caves in my life, but for now, I can only remember of two.

The Lost Sea, located in a farming town of Sweetwater, Tenn. A nice little town.

Chattanooga's Ruby Falls on Lookout Mountain, located on Lookout Mountain in Georgia just across from Chattanooga at the Tennessee-Georgia state line.

ChelEler · 07-01-2003, 01:37 PM

Neato!

Fly Free · 07-01-2003, 03:01 PM

ive been in caves but dont remmy much abt them -- i was a kid around 5 or so thereabouts and i dont remmy WHERE they were located when i was with my family on the USA road trip camping and etc

id DEFINATELY go explore caves -- theres 1 in the Blue Ridge Mountains in VA

sweetgal154 · 07-01-2003, 03:35 PM

There's Howe Cavern..I am not exactly sure the specific location but I remember it was in New York when I was on my way to Canada. Caverns gives me the creeps :-\

ChelEler · 07-01-2003, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by sweetgal154
There's Howe Cavern..I am not exactly sure the specific location but I remember it was in New York when I was on my way to Canada. Caverns gives me the creeps :-\

Interesting. Why do they give you the creeps?

OldNavyGirl · 07-01-2003, 05:14 PM

I have never been to camps

ChelEler · 07-01-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by OldNavyGirl
I have never been to camps

Heh. This is about caves, not camps. Heh.

SilenceGold · 07-01-2003, 05:58 PM

*caves

Yes, I've been in one...I hide most of my gold there...ain't tellin' any of you guys where me gold are. :p

ChelEler · 07-01-2003, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by SilenceGold
*caves

Yes, I've been in one...I hide most of my gold there...ain't tellin' any of you guys where me gold are. :p

Oh

Heh. I'm sure it's in Arkansas, somewhere.

SilenceGold · 07-01-2003, 06:22 PM

Yes, it's in Arkansas.. :p

OldNavyGirl · 07-02-2003, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by ChelEler
Heh. This is about caves, not camps. Heh.

omg, my brain is fried! yea i meant caves!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao!

deafclimber · 07-08-2003, 12:36 PM

yep i had been in caves in many different areas... but i havent tried caves climbing yet. my friend has a lot of experiences with caves climbing. i ll ask him if i can join him to explore in the caves in lookout mtns in georgia.

i did diving in a cave underwater at crystal river. man, it was the coldest ever i been in water even i wore a 3mm wetsuit.

WonderBum · 07-08-2003, 06:43 PM

New Zealand has heaps of caves here. Been in few.... love the "sandwich" and "corkscrew" moves. I love caving!!!

CatoCooper13 · 07-09-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by ChelEler
Hey have you been to any natural caves (not mines nor man-made underground)? If so, where? What is/are your favorite cave(s)?

I have been to almost all caves in South Dakota (in BlackHill area) and one in Missouri (can't remember the name, but it has something to do with Jesse James's hiding place). I don't have any favorite caves yet, because I love them all! My family and I are going into caves again this weekend.

Yeah, been to one at the Buchan Caves, out past Lakes Entrance in the Gippsland area of Victoria, Australia. Very LOVELY!! I went into the Fairy Caves, there were 3 of them. Fairy Caves was the shortest -- 1 hour underground tour. As I am sort of claustophobic of closed areas...so I braved the caves. *gulps* Gorgeous, yes, but I got scared crapless when the lights went out and it was pitch dark and I couldn't even see my HANDS in front of my face...*shuddering*
Fairy Cave was discovered by Frank Moon in 1907 and opened to the public later that same year.
Anyway, the Fairy and Royal Caves have those staglicimites (spelling, crap!) and stalicites...fascinating and beautiful! I took some photos...will try to find them and scan some and put them up here.

For the time being, here's a link to some pictures I've found on the web.... http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an22966287

Goldie

DeafSCUBA98 · 07-09-2003, 01:06 AM

Yep been to serveral caves above sea level and below sea level.

above sea level been to caves in SD badlands i think.
And one on Wyoming.

Under Sea Level caves in lake michigan near green bay. and key west in fla. beautiful caves!

deafclimber · 07-09-2003, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by DeafSCUBA98

Under Sea Level caves in lake michigan near green bay. and key west in fla. beautiful caves!

where is a cave at key west ? i go to there annually and i have no clue idea about the cave at there. i would appreicate if u give me the information and i may be interested to go to cave.

thanks deafscuba

Kalista · 07-09-2003, 07:44 AM

I went to Crystal Cave in Kutztown, PA. It is very beautiful colorful reflect. It is very cold inside. I feel like that I visit Superman's crystal cave home.

~ Sabrina

ChelEler · 07-09-2003, 11:49 AM

My family and I went to Jewel Cave in South Dakota last Saturday, and it was a blast! This time we had an interpreter with us and it was very very helpful! WHOO! We learned quite more than before because of the interpreter. We enjoyed the cave way more than before... because we understood most things the guide said.

One time, the interpreter said that the light will go completely off, and I expected it to happen anyway because I have been there twice before (without an interpreter) and when it happened, my baby boy cried hard! (I had my hands on him to make sure that he's okay, but nope.) He bawled and bawled loudly... the light only went off short time. My oldest son was like "COOL!!"

Good boy. (My baby boy was sitting in the backpack style carrier, which my husband's wearing. Poor my husband for carry that heavy son of ours. Heh.) My oldest son walked all the way from the beginning to the end. Wow, he did well!!

PaxThoreau · 07-09-2003, 09:48 PM

Did any of you go to Kartchner Caverns in Benson, Arizona? It was discovered in 1978 and was disclosed to the public in 1988. It is very hard to get tickets. My brother, who lives in Tucson, and I tried to get tickets the last time I visited him, but we were turned away. I was so disappointed because it was like 110 degree on that day and all I could think was getting into the cave.

http://www.pr.state.az.us/parkhtml/kartchner.html

CatoCooper13 · 07-09-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by PaxThoreau
Did any of you go to Kartchner Caverns in Benson, Arizona? It was discovered in 1978 and was disclosed to the public in 1988. It is very hard to get tickets. My brother, who lives in Tucson, and I tried to get tickets the last time I visited him, but we were turned away. I was so disappointed because it was like 110 degree on that day and all I could think was getting into the cave.

http://www.pr.state.az.us/parkhtml/kartchner.html

You mentioned it being hard to get tickets to that specific cave. Why was that? Just am wondering what was so special and popular...so popular that tickets were a rarity to grab?

Goldie

PaxThoreau · 07-10-2003, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by WaterRats13
You mentioned it being hard to get tickets to that specific cave. Why was that? Just am wondering what was so special and popular...so popular that tickets were a rarity to grab?

Goldie

Hi Goldie

The guys who accidentally discovered the cavern refused to reveal its location to anyone until they got the AZ State Park to agree that the pristine condition of the cavern must be preserved.

It is a living cave with the formations still forming. That is rare. Most caves are dried out. Formations are fragile and can easily get damaged if they are touched. As a precaution, limited tours are given everyday. There are other precautions also, but I can't remember what they are. Maybe the website has more info.

CatoCooper13 · 07-11-2003, 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by PaxThoreau
Hi Goldie

The guys who accidentally discovered the cavern refused to reveal its location to anyone until they got the AZ State Park to agree that the pristine condition of the cavern must be preserved.

It is a living cave with the formations still forming. That is rare. Most caves are dried out. Formations are fragile and can easily get damaged if they are touched. As a precaution, limited tours are given everyday. There are other precautions also, but I can't remember what they are. Maybe the website has more info.

Interesting...it's the same for the Buchan Caves in East Gippsland in Victoria, Australia -- although there are frequent tours -- the Government and Preservation have put up protection fences around the formations and inform people on the tour not to touch any of the formations outside the fence, etc.
It's absolutely beautiful and it's still living!

Goldie

Ziusudra · 07-11-2003, 07:18 AM

I have been in several caves in lots of different places including Tasmania, Victoria, the Nothern Territory and England. I must say they're pretty awesome, the rocks have their own flurouscent lights and it's cold and damp but still pretty cool. Mind you, some have been quite narrow and low ceiled and I've never been more glad I'm short.

Ziusudra

07-11-2003, 10:41 AM

I believe I have only been to TWO caves in my entire life.
The first one was in Bodenmais at Mt. Silberberg, in the Bavarian Forest. It was an old mine and it went very deep into the mountain. It was very cold and narrow/small. The second one was the same place as Sabrina visited, Crystal Caverns in PA. I don't recall being in any other caverns. I hope when I move west, I would be able to visit some caves.

@ PaxThoreau: That cave site you talked about sounds very interesting. Hope you will have better luck to visit there next time when you go see your brother in Arizona!

CatoCooper13 · 07-11-2003, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Ziusudra
I have been in several caves in lots of different places including Tasmania, Victoria, the Nothern Territory and England. I must say they're pretty awesome, the rocks have their own flurouscent lights and it's cold and damp but still pretty cool. Mind you, some have been quite narrow and low ceiled and I've never been more glad I'm short.

Ziusudra

@ Ziusudra! I'm also glad that I'm not THAT tall...am of medium height, thought...you know, Ziggy, ha!
I just don't think I'd be able to go back down a cave again because I just am too afraid of caves and the impending darkness, should the power fail during a tour!

Once was enough.

Goldie

Tousi · 07-12-2003, 07:59 PM

Almost all of the posts re: this topic talk about caves that are maintained by private or government agencies. True cave exploring is called spelunking and I imagine(cuz i've never tried it)it is fraught with danger and one would need to develop experience by going with someone who knows what theyr'e doing.
Cheleler--you asked someone why the fear a few pages back: Well, for me, the long trail descending(switchbacks)into the mouth of Carlsbad Caverns made me think I was going back INTO Mommy! LOL! Now ain't dat scary!? LOL!

CatoCooper13 · 07-13-2003, 05:34 AM

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Originally posted by Tousi
Almost all of the posts re: this topic talk about caves that are maintained by private or government agencies. True cave exploring is called spelunking and I imagine(cuz i've never tried it)it is fraught with danger and one would need to develop experience by going with someone who knows what theyr'e doing.
Cheleler--you asked someone why the fear a few pages back: Well, for me, the long trail descending(switchbacks)into the mouth of Carlsbad Caverns made me think I was going back INTO Mommy! LOL! Now ain't dat scary!? LOL!

True...true, Tousi. My husband has gone down an un-used mine which has been closed for a long time and not many people are aware of this one nor the location. It's called the A-1 Mine....several k's northeast of Marysville in Victoria State of Australia. About 90 minutes away from Melbourne.
Hubby's Aunt's ex-husband dug out some gold there in 1971 and we have the nugget here and Andy's eager to go back and do some gold digging, heheh! Good luck to him as I won't be going along.

There are quite a few famous gold mines in Ballarat/Sovereign Hill -- heaps of gold were found there during the gold rush in the late 1890- early 1900's. My mum went through one with my dad in law a couple of months ago and she said it was quite interesting. We even watched a gold pouring session...the gold block the bloke poured was worth 60k AUD! (Approximately 30k USD)
Here's a link to Sovereign Hill if any are interested in the history of Australia's Gold Rush.

http://www.sovereignhill.com.au/flash.shtml

Goldie

ChelEler · 07-14-2003, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Tousi
Almost all of the posts re: this topic talk about caves that are maintained by private or government agencies. True cave exploring is called spelunking and I imagine(cuz i've never tried it)it is fraught with danger and one would need to develop experience by going with someone who knows what theyr'e doing.
Cheleler--you asked someone why the fear a few pages back: Well, for me, the long trail descending(switchbacks)into the mouth of Carlsbad Caverns made me think I was going back INTO Mommy! LOL! Now ain't dat scary!? LOL!

Ha ha ha! Never really thought of that. Interesting imagination you have about going back into Mommy!

07-01-2003, 12:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
ChelEler Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,558	Caves Hey have you been to any natural caves (not mines nor man-made underground)? If so, where? What is/are your favorite cave(s)? I have been to almost all caves in South Dakota (in BlackHill area) and one in Missouri (can't remember the name, but it has something to do with Jesse James's hiding place). I don't have any favorite caves yet, because I love them all! My family and I are going into caves again this weekend. __________________ -ChelEler- =^.~=

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Lasza Premium Lurker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mile High State Posts: 2,509	Yes, I went huge cave in Carlsbad, New Mexico 10 years ago. Whoa very huge and pretty cold inside. Done went another cave near Austin, Texas. Pretty cold and show something so strange like fossil there. First time, I went tiny cave (non-tourist service) somewhere in Austin, TX. But not safe cuz of some bats inside. My friend and I went inside. i see my friend's breath like white and very coldy. then come back so quickly. Like to come inside the cave during summer. Whoa feel chill. My fave cave is Carlsbad, NM.

07-01-2003, 01:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Brian* 極度の調整器 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,634	Yeah. I have been to several caves in my life, but for now, I can only remember of two. The Lost Sea, located in a farming town of Sweetwater, Tenn. A nice little town. Chattanooga's Ruby Falls on Lookout Mountain, located on Lookout Mountain in Georgia just across from Chattanooga at the Tennessee-Georgia state line.

07-01-2003, 03:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
sweetgal154 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 417	There's Howe Cavern..I am not exactly sure the specific location but I remember it was in New York when I was on my way to Canada. Caverns gives me the creeps :-\

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OldNavyGirl Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere in Illinois Posts: 3,671	I have never been to camps

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SilenceGold Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,484	*caves Yes, I've been in one...I hide most of my gold there...ain't tellin' any of you guys where me gold are. :p

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SilenceGold Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,484	Yes, it's in Arkansas.. :p

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WonderBum Lip Inspector Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 615	New Zealand has heaps of caves here. Been in few.... love the "sandwich" and "corkscrew" moves. I love caving!!!

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Kalista Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 7,795	I went to Crystal Cave in Kutztown, PA. It is very beautiful colorful reflect. It is very cold inside. I feel like that I visit Superman's crystal cave home. ~ Sabrina __________________

07-09-2003, 11:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
ChelEler Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,558	My family and I went to Jewel Cave in South Dakota last Saturday, and it was a blast! This time we had an interpreter with us and it was very very helpful! WHOO! We learned quite more than before because of the interpreter. We enjoyed the cave way more than before... because we understood most things the guide said. One time, the interpreter said that the light will go completely off, and I expected it to happen anyway because I have been there twice before (without an interpreter) and when it happened, my baby boy cried hard! (I had my hands on him to make sure that he's okay, but nope.) He bawled and bawled loudly... the light only went off short time. My oldest son was like "COOL!!" Good boy. (My baby boy was sitting in the backpack style carrier, which my husband's wearing. Poor my husband for carry that heavy son of ours. Heh.) My oldest son walked all the way from the beginning to the end. Wow, he did well!! __________________ -ChelEler- =^.~=

07-09-2003, 09:48 PM	#21 (permalink)
PaxThoreau Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: in the arena of donkeys and elephants Posts: 62	Did any of you go to Kartchner Caverns in Benson, Arizona? It was discovered in 1978 and was disclosed to the public in 1988. It is very hard to get tickets. My brother, who lives in Tucson, and I tried to get tickets the last time I visited him, but we were turned away. I was so disappointed because it was like 110 degree on that day and all I could think was getting into the cave. http://www.pr.state.az.us/parkhtml/kartchner.html

07-11-2003, 07:18 AM	#25 (permalink)
Ziusudra The Cammy Fighter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 771	I have been in several caves in lots of different places including Tasmania, Victoria, the Nothern Territory and England. I must say they're pretty awesome, the rocks have their own flurouscent lights and it's cold and damp but still pretty cool. Mind you, some have been quite narrow and low ceiled and I've never been more glad I'm short. Ziusudra

07-11-2003, 10:41 AM	#26 (permalink)
kuifje75 Guest Posts: n/a	I believe I have only been to TWO caves in my entire life. The first one was in Bodenmais at Mt. Silberberg, in the Bavarian Forest. It was an old mine and it went very deep into the mountain. It was very cold and narrow/small. The second one was the same place as Sabrina visited, Crystal Caverns in PA. I don't recall being in any other caverns. I hope when I move west, I would be able to visit some caves. @ PaxThoreau: That cave site you talked about sounds very interesting. Hope you will have better luck to visit there next time when you go see your brother in Arizona!

07-12-2003, 07:59 PM	#28 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,574	Almost all of the posts re: this topic talk about caves that are maintained by private or government agencies. True cave exploring is called spelunking and I imagine(cuz i've never tried it)it is fraught with danger and one would need to develop experience by going with someone who knows what theyr'e doing. Cheleler--you asked someone why the fear a few pages back: Well, for me, the long trail descending(switchbacks)into the mouth of Carlsbad Caverns made me think I was going back INTO Mommy! LOL! Now ain't dat scary!? LOL!

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