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Unread 11-15-2011, 10:56 PM   #571 (permalink)
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And? You got anything to add on the topic? Funny that you never have anything of substance to add, but simply wait for an opportunity to point fingers at others. I would think you would be taking the opportunity to put your position forward in a cohesive and intelligent manner. Oh, well. Guess not.
How rude.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:06 PM   #572 (permalink)
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How rude.
Oh well. Sorry you see it that way. I see your constant attempts to minimize and ridicule serious discussions as rude and insensitive.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:11 PM   #573 (permalink)
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The Supreme Court decided that the Virginia law was unconstitutional.

The law:

“It shall be unlawful for any person or persons, with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons, to burn, or cause to be burned, a cross on the property of another, a highway or other public place. Any person who shall violate any provision of this section shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony.
“Any such burning of a cross shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to intimidate a person or group of persons.”

The Supreme Court decision:

"In this case we consider whether the Commonwealth of Virginia’s statute banning cross burning with “an intent to intimidate a person or group of persons” violates the First Amendment. We conclude that while a State, consistent with the First Amendment, may ban cross burning carried out with the intent to intimidate, the provision in the Virginia statute treating any cross burning as prima facie evidence of intent to intimidate renders the statute unconstitutional in its current form."

Virginia v Black
correct. this has nothing to do with Hate Crime law nor is there anything to fear about Hate Crime law.

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the [Hate Crime] law is very explicit about it.

if you're spray-painting swastika at synagogue for no reason other than just a stupid fun, you would not be charged with hate crime. In order to be charged with hate crime, they'll have to prove that you have documented history of anti-Semitism.

it's just plain dang silly of people to think that you can be charged with hate crime just for spraying swastika on some abandoned building or simply yelling - "You F**king Jews!". You are protected by Amendment One and you're free to explicitly express your hatred toward Jewish people unless it turned into violence or you inciting people to commit violence toward Jewish people.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:19 PM   #574 (permalink)
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Nope. He meant the ones he named.
If you say that, then he f'ed up. Remember I'm from Mobile and U. of Ala. is not over 70% Not even close
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:20 PM   #575 (permalink)
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If you say that, then he f'ed up. Remember I'm from Mobile and U. of Ala. is not over 70%
Orderlies! He snuck out again. You are going to have to get out the chemical restraints.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:25 PM   #576 (permalink)
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That's a touch below 70%
jillio is just to proud to admit I'm right.

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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:31 PM   #577 (permalink)
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:34 PM   #578 (permalink)
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Will never understand why anyone without phd think good idea debate someone with phd.
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jillio is just to proud to admit I'm right.

Excuse me while I take another Victory Lap
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:45 PM   #580 (permalink)
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Oh well. Sorry you see it that way. I see your constant attempts to minimize and ridicule serious discussions as rude and insensitive.
I believe I too, am entitled to my opinions.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:45 PM   #581 (permalink)
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If you say that, then he f'ed up. Remember I'm from Mobile and U. of Ala. is not over 70% Not even close
so sue me for emotional distress and economic damage I've caused due to my incorrect statement.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:48 PM   #582 (permalink)
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Orderlies! Chemical restraints, STAT
what's a chemical restraint? Haldol shot?
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:49 PM   #583 (permalink)
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I believe I too, am entitled to my opinions.
Who said you weren't? In fact, the post you quoted says that very thing. It simply points out that your perception doesn't necessarily match with everyone's perception.
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what's a chemical restraint? Haldol shot?
Among other things. Several different ones that could be used. Haldol generally for an out of control psychotic.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:50 PM   #585 (permalink)
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I believe I too, am entitled to my opinions.
Yay!
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Not much divesity in my personal life.

What license do you hold?

You are scary if you are a certified counselor. You need some serious CE.
That's a hoot!
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Unread 11-15-2011, 11:54 PM   #587 (permalink)
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Among other things. Several different ones that could be used. Haldol generally for an out of control psychotic.
Perfect.

Orderlies! 250cc of Haldol STAT!
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Unread 11-16-2011, 03:53 AM   #588 (permalink)
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Will never understand why anyone without phd think good idea debate someone with phd.
A PhD doesn't make anyone an expert in every topic, and it definitely doesn't make one right about every topic. As Americans, we have the right and obligation to speak up when we disagree. We should do so in a civil manner, and not make our arguments personal attacks. It doesn't require a PhD to do that.
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Unread 11-16-2011, 05:20 AM   #589 (permalink)
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It was your post, so I was hoping you could clarify it for me.

I can't tell you what you were trying to say.

If you don't want to make it clear so that we can discuss it, well, that's your perogative.
i would like to hear exactly why in your own words, exactly how you think hate crime laws work, why you oppose them and give support for your argument. You've been demanding everyone else to provide facts to support their argument. How about you do the same?

How about you tell me how it works in the court system?
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Unread 11-16-2011, 05:22 AM   #590 (permalink)
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I've explained multiple times to you on this thread how hate crime laws work in theory and it's like it's gone completely over your head. You would ask questions like "oh, if a marginalized victim was not a target of hate crime, do they deserve less justice?"

It's not about less justice, it's about taking into consideration whether the crime was motivated by bigotry.

Have you ever been a subject of bigotry? Have you ever had violence committed against you because you're a white Christian woman?

So, i would like to hear exactly why in your own words, exactly how you think hate crime laws work and give support for your argument. You've been demanding everyone else to provide facts to support their argument. How about you do the same?
hmm... I traced back and I think you confused Reba with kokonut
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hmm... I traced back and I think you confused Reba with kokonut
Hmmm...no.
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Unread 11-16-2011, 07:47 AM   #592 (permalink)
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so sue me for emotional distress and economic damage I've caused due to my incorrect statement.
(pat on the back.....hug)
Now Jiro, I'm sorry of I came off hard but I do greatly appreciate your admittion. I had the advantage of growing up in Alabama, so I do know how the two colleges
could be confused. I'm cool, we are cool.
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(pat on the back.....hug)
Now Jiro, I'm sorry of I came off hard but I do greatly appreciate your admittion. I had the advantage of growing up in Alabama, so I do know how the two colleges
could be confused. I'm cool, we are cool.
no I didn't confuse between those two colleges. I searched for "top black colleges" and University of Alabama came up in the list.

impossible for me to confuse between "University of Alabama" and "Alabama State University"
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Will never understand why anyone without phd think good idea debate someone with phd.
Do you know anyone with a PhD in Criminal Justice and/or has a law degrees here on this thread? No? Did not think so! So we are all equal here, we are all a bunch of idiots (including me and jillio) just b.s. about something to talk about to kill time.
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no I didn't confuse between those two colleges. I searched for "top black colleges" and University of Alabama came up in the list.

impossible for me to confuse between "University of Alabama" and "Alabama State University"
And you believed that list????

U.of Ala. is no more a top black college then is jillio's Ohio State!

Get a clue.
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And you believed that list????

U.of Ala. is no more a top black college that is jillio's Ohio State!

Get a clue.
eh *shrug*

now roll along.... roll along....
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Do you know anyone with a PhD in Criminal Justice and/or has a law degrees here on this thread? No? Did not think so! So we are all equal here, we are all a bunch of idiots (including me and jillio) just b.s. about something to talk about to kill time.
I've told you before...never ever place me in a category with yourself. You are way overestimating yourself when you do so. Makes you look delusional.
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And you believed that list????

U.of Ala. is no more a top black college then is jillio's Ohio State!

Get a clue.
Jillio's Ohio State? How did you come up with an association between me and Ohio State? Never attended Ohio State, never worked at Ohio State, I don't even root for Buckeyes football.
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A PhD doesn't make anyone an expert in every topic, and it definitely doesn't make one right about every topic. As Americans, we have the right and obligation to speak up when we disagree. We should do so in a civil manner, and not make our arguments personal attacks. It doesn't require a PhD to do that.
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And you believed that list????

U.of Ala. is no more a top black college then is jillio's Ohio State!

Get a clue.
Jillio's Ohio State? How did you come up with an association between me and Ohio State? Never attended Ohio State, never worked at Ohio State, I don't even root for Buckeyes football.

And jiro was correct in that it is one of the top choices of black graduate students seeking professional advanced education.

Really, you probably shouldn't attempt to discuss educational institutions until you have actually attended one.
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