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Over the years, I have read several articles and informative pieces on the subject. I found it interesting that Amazon produces 20% of the world's oxygen. The rain forests around the world produces 40% of the world's oxygen.

However, from what I have read, we have lost half of the world's forests in the last 300 years, and we have lost half of the rain forests in just 50 years. It is estimated that rain forests may be gone within 40 years if nothing is done about it.

Nearly half of the plants, animals and microorganisms will go extinct as a result of the massive deforestation in the next 25 years. We are losing an average of 137 plant, animal and insect species every day. It equals to 50,000 species a year.

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I think it's a real concern that not many are taking seriously.
 
I agree with you. It is a grave concern. You know, we need to listen to the indigenous peoples regarding the earth. They have a lot of wisdom, and their observations of what is happening are very accurate. Their beliefs about the connectedness of all things and the interdependant factor regarding all life is pretty much on target.
 
time to watch a new episode of Terra Nova....
 
Banjo said:
Over the years, I have read several articles and informative pieces on the subject. I found it interesting that Amazon produces 20% of the world's oxygen. The rain forests around the world produces 40% of the world's oxygen.

However, from what I have read, we have lost half of the world's forests in the last 300 years, and we have lost half of the rain forests in just 50 years. It is estimated that rain forests may be gone within 40 years if nothing is done about it.

Nearly half of the plants, animals and microorganisms will go extinct as a result of the massive deforestation in the next 25 years. We are losing an average of 137 plant, animal and insect species every day. It equals to 50,000 species a year.

Rainforest Facts

I think it's a real concern that not many are taking seriously.
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I take it very seriously. I find the 40 year prediction to be a little hard to believe. But it's still a huge problem.
 
TXgolfer said:
I take it very seriously. I find the 40 year prediction to be a little hard to believe. But it's still a huge problem.
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well - it's just saying that at our current pace, it will be gone in 40 years and that's a cold hard fact.

but that's not likely to happen because people will undoubtedly take action in... perhaps 10 years..... or 20 years... and that can extend rainforest's lifeline to perhaps 60 years or so.

I can only hope that by the time we take action... it's not too late since rainforest contains majority of cures for our diseases.
 
Jiro said:
well - it's just saying that at our current pace, it will be gone in 40 years and that's a cold hard fact.

but that's not likely to happen because people will undoubtedly take action in... perhaps 10 years..... or 20 years... and that can extend rainforest's lifeline to perhaps 60 years or so.

I can only hope that by the time we take action... it's not too late since rainforest contains majority of cures for our diseases.
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Yeah let's hope.
 
jillio said:
I agree with you. It is a grave concern. You know, we need to listen to the indigenous peoples regarding the earth. They have a lot of wisdom, and their observations of what is happening are very accurate. Their beliefs about the connectedness of all things and the interdependant factor regarding all life is pretty much on target.
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But there are some who cut down trees to farm something. Yeah, I agree that there should be more rainforests. I wish the south american people would find different line of work that doesn't involve cutting down trees.
 
Buffalo said:
But there are some who cut down trees to farm something. Yeah, I agree that there should be more rainforests. I wish the south american people would find different line of work that doesn't involve cutting down trees.
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Stop going to mcdonalds... . ALL OF YOU GUYS!

That fuckin mcrib - where do you think the meat come from??
 
Buffalo said:
But there are some who cut down trees to farm something. Yeah, I agree that there should be more rainforests. I wish the south american people would find different line of work that doesn't involve cutting down trees.
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we can't really build more rainforest. it's basically permanent damage but all hope is not lost. it can be fixable but it's going to take centuries for it to heal from the damage we caused.

fortunately - due to remarkable advance in genetic engineering and several other scientific discoveries and also other discoveries yet to be found in future.... it is definitely possible to restore it in a way.
 
Buffalo said:
But there are some who cut down trees to farm something. Yeah, I agree that there should be more rainforests. I wish the south american people would find different line of work that doesn't involve cutting down trees.
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The Americans need to stay out of there, too.
 
:hmm: I do think that deforestation IS a problem, it definitely raises the carbon output due to lack of trees, increased fuel burning, causes soil erosion and bad soil temperament, list goes on.

However at the same time there are other things to consider, food for thought for the discussion. This is where you put your high-brows on, get ready! :lol:

- Many plants and trees, especially species in deciduous forests utilize photorespiration. Photorespiration is the case when there's too much oxygen and not enough CO2, they start using the excess O2 to get a weakened form of energy via carboxylation, and a lot of excess waste of energy is input to create less output.
I think (not sure of 100% of this) this is one of the main scientific reasons why forests can never effectively become the top producers of oxygen on earth, because the plants will shift to what they need in an area accordingly.

- Second part is that that the cyanobacteria (algae) of the oceans provide nearly half if not more of the world's oxygen -- an alternative is to stimulate their growth, which some scientists are actually doing but at a controlled rate because of the fear of dead zoning an area of the ocean. This in turn increases our O2 production with complete efficiency without reliance on plants and trees because cyanobacteria are easy to control, but at the same time it's dangerous because it's also playing with the ocean's food web. I think the world's future brings things like "oxygen farms" to modern life when O2 supplies are recognized to be dropping. This feature is out already and is known as algaculture.

But the main concern I have with deforestation is the misuse of the energy, although it seems it can't be helped. A lot of those forests are being used to power old diesel equipment in poor 2nd/3rd rate world countries which they don't really have money to upgrade, and rely on them for day to day money and salaries. It's sort of like making these impoverished nations forced into another job.
Though that probably isn't exactly a bad thing, is it the right thing to do?
 
naisho said:
:hmm: I do think that deforestation IS a problem, it definitely raises the carbon output due to lack of trees, increased fuel burning, causes soil erosion and bad soil temperament, list goes on.

However at the same time there are other things to consider, food for thought for the discussion. This is where you put your high-brows on, get ready! :lol:

- Many plants and trees, especially species in deciduous forests utilize photorespiration. Photorespiration is the case when there's too much oxygen and not enough CO2, they start using the excess O2 to get a weakened form of energy via carboxylation, and a lot of excess waste of energy is input to create less output.
I think (not sure of 100% of this) this is one of the main scientific reasons why forests can never effectively become the top producers of oxygen on earth, because the plants will shift to what they need in an area accordingly.

- Second part is that that the cyanobacteria (algae) of the oceans provide nearly half if not more of the world's oxygen -- an alternative is to stimulate their growth, which some scientists are actually doing but at a controlled rate because of the fear of dead zoning an area of the ocean. This in turn increases our O2 production with complete efficiency without reliance on plants and trees because cyanobacteria are easy to control, but at the same time it's dangerous because it's also playing with the ocean's food web. I think the world's future brings things like "oxygen farms" to modern life when O2 supplies are recognized to be dropping. This feature is out already and is known as algaculture.

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Yeah good science!!!
 
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My ex husband worked for Stride Rite in their food court and I told my ex that
Stride Rite raise it cattle in rainforest and Stride Rite is cutting the rainforest to do this. My ex did not believe ,until he came home from work one day . He said he saw a woman that worked for Stride Rite carrying a huge box filled with files and my ex asked what going on. The woman said " people been protesting Stride Rite for destroying the rainforest to raise their cattle and I have read all the letters!" This was about 15 years ago. I read that people should not buy
furniture that made trees from the rainforests.
 
naisho said:
:hmm: I do think that deforestation IS a problem, it definitely raises the carbon output due to lack of trees, increased fuel burning, causes soil erosion and bad soil temperament, list goes on.

However at the same time there are other things to consider, food for thought for the discussion. This is where you put your high-brows on, get ready! :lol:

- Many plants and trees, especially species in deciduous forests utilize photorespiration. Photorespiration is the case when there's too much oxygen and not enough CO2, they start using the excess O2 to get a weakened form of energy via carboxylation, and a lot of excess waste of energy is input to create less output.
I think (not sure of 100% of this) this is one of the main scientific reasons why forests can never effectively become the top producers of oxygen on earth, because the plants will shift to what they need in an area accordingly.

- Second part is that that the cyanobacteria (algae) of the oceans provide nearly half if not more of the world's oxygen -- an alternative is to stimulate their growth, which some scientists are actually doing but at a controlled rate because of the fear of dead zoning an area of the ocean. This in turn increases our O2 production with complete efficiency without reliance on plants and trees because cyanobacteria are easy to control, but at the same time it's dangerous because it's also playing with the ocean's food web. I think the world's future brings things like "oxygen farms" to modern life when O2 supplies are recognized to be dropping. This feature is out already and is known as algaculture.

But the main concern I have with deforestation is the misuse of the energy, although it seems it can't be helped. A lot of those forests are being used to power old diesel equipment in poor 2nd/3rd rate world countries which they don't really have money to upgrade, and rely on them for day to day money and salaries. It's sort of like making these impoverished nations forced into another job.
Though that probably isn't exactly a bad thing, is it the right thing to do?
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Nature has the remarkable ability to keep things in balance. It is man that throws it out of balance. The point is learning to work with the enviornment, not against it. We harm not only the environment, but destroy ourselves in the process.
 
Hey I was watching that show (History Channel, Ancient Aliens)

It's good for a laugh...

But the head Alien dude said that rainforest were planted, by Aliens...

So maybe we can get tehm to stop back by and replant or something. *shakes head*
 
jillio said:
Nature has the remarkable ability to keep things in balance. It is man that throws it out of balance. The point is learning to work with the enviornment, not against it. We harm not only the environment, but destroy ourselves in the process.
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Yes! I wish those greedy businessmen/women would wake up and see the truth.
 
FireTiger said:
Hey I was watching that show (History Channel, Ancient Aliens)

It's good for a laugh...

But the head Alien dude said that rainforest were planted, by Aliens...

So maybe we can get tehm to stop back by and replant or something. *shakes head*
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Did you see the segment on the 13 crystal skulls and the Mayan gateway ceremonies?
 
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