The Origins of Homosexuality - Page 5

jillio · 10-30-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

I understand this one went over your head .... so allow me to slow ..... way .... down ......

Voluntary vs. involuntary

Is homosexuality voluntary or involuntary?

That has to be one of the stupidest questions you asked. You can't even apply the work "voluntary" or "involuntary" to the concept of sexual orientation. A sneeze is involuntary. Eating is voluntary. Go buy a dictionary.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sunny_signs

Think expression just "beating a dead horse". Add "to death" is redundant.

Carry on.

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

But rolling7 seems to have a bit of trouble with the concept of cause and effect. If the horse is dead, you cannot kill it again. If a homosexual has already been born, you cannot beat them into heterosexuality.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Comical!

Everyone knows I can make a law, what makes you think you can.

I really don't give a shit about marriage between same-sex nor all the other possibles.

I've said it over and over and I'll repeat it again.

Mankind, the smartest creature on the face of the earth.
Mankind, the stupidest creature on the face of the earth.

If you don't give a shit, STFU.

Steinhauer · 10-30-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

That has to be one of the stupidest questions you asked. You can't even apply the work "voluntary" or "involuntary" to the concept of sexual orientation. A sneeze is involuntary. Eating is voluntary. Go buy a dictionary.

I can see I struck a nerve ... a simple yes or no would have sufficed.

Steinhauer · 10-30-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

If you don't give a shit, STFU.

STFU and GTFO If you cannot have a civil discourse ... leave.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

I can see I struck a nerve ... a simple yes or no would have sufficed.

It wasn't a yes or no question.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

STFU and GTFO

Steinhauer · 10-30-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It wasn't a yes or no question.

More bullshit.

**Reba** · 10-30-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

My brother did one time because all the bathrooms in downtown Baltimore were closed and he couldnt stop his biological functions hence pooping in public.

If there were no such thing as bathrooms, humans would be pooping in public.

That's not the same thing as throwing it at people who are passing by.

Sunshine · 10-30-2011, 10:55 PM

Dallas just ask why I sit here LOLing at iPad. Is because this very entertaining.

Please. Carry on.

Steinhauer · 10-30-2011, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

khrixmrozh · 10-30-2011, 10:57 PM

Thanks for the study. If I ever have to do research for school again, I'll come back to this. (I'm a medical freak, forensic too.)
Repeating "we are animals" "are not" "are too" is how children argue. Are children even allowed in the GLBT Lounge? Or any other relationship threads?
Aside from the bisexuality factor, which BTW was a great point for the "choice" side, hetero vs homo is not a choice. Rebuttal: bisexuality does have differing ratios (50/50, 60/40, 70/30, etc.), those ratios are genetically set and resistant to change, at least on the physical level. Emotionally, I don't really think orientation affects that too much.
Of course, those who say it was a choice to be hetero/homo may just mean that they either choose to accept their inane orientation, or try to resist themselves from it. I chose to accept myself.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

More bullshit.

It wasn't a yes or no question. Can't give a yes or no answer to a question that does post a yes or no possiblity.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

That's not the same thing as throwing it at people who are passing by.

There have been people who have known to do that as well. They are severely mentally ill. Does that make them not human?

jillio · 10-30-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by khrixmrozh

Thanks for the study. If I ever have to do research for school again, I'll come back to this. (I'm a medical freak, forensic too.)
Repeating "we are animals" "are not" "are too" is how children argue. Are children even allowed in the GLBT Lounge? Or any other relationship threads?
Aside from the bisexuality factor, which BTW was a great point for the "choice" side, hetero vs homo is not a choice. Rebuttal: bisexuality does have differing ratios (50/50, 60/40, 70/30, etc.), those ratios are genetically set and resistant to change, at least on the physical level. Emotionally, I don't really think orientation affects that too much.
Of course, those who say it was a choice to be hetero/homo may just mean that they either choose to accept their inane orientation, or try to resist themselves from it. I chose to accept myself.

Are you referring to chronological age or mental age?

jillio · 10-30-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Dream on. You will never get the chance.

**Reba** · 10-30-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

We are not talking about gender as in grammar. We are discussing gender the social constuction of a set of behaviors considered by society to be appropriate for a specific sex. Sex is a biological construction. Generally accepted in all fields that have to do with the proper use of the term.

According to The American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary, gender means both "The sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy" and "Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture."

It's weird how a grammatical term in recent decades came to be used for human sexuality.

Steinhauer · 10-30-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Dream on. You will never get the chance.

Wasn't referring to you so don't flatter yourself. I was referring to a banana hitting a police officer.

The thought of even the slightest hint of what you mentioned makes me throw up in my mouth.

**sallylou** · 10-30-2011, 11:04 PM

The discussion heats up but I gotta go to bed. Carry on, my friends. lol

**Reba** · 10-30-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

There have been people who have known to do that as well. They are severely mentally ill. Does that make them not human?

So, humans who behave like animals are severely mentally ill.

That is, humans who behave like animals are not behaving in a normal human manner.

Because humans are not animals, they normally don't behave like them.

Steinhauer · 10-30-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

So, humans who behave like animals are severely mentally ill.

That is, humans who behave like animals are not behaving in a normal human manner.

Because humans are not animals, they normally don't behave like them.

Yes, Reba, people who behave like animals are mentally ill.

Sunshine · 10-30-2011, 11:08 PM

Reba, you twist words. Humans who fling poo (f*ck this a weird sentence) mentally ill. Nobody say anything about humans who act like animals. Only you.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

So, humans who behave like animals are severely mentally ill.

That is, humans who behave like animals are not behaving in a normal human manner.

Because humans are not animals, they normally don't behave like them.

No, humans who throw poop are severely mentally ill. Not all animals throw poop. And you know, they say animals have a keen sense of who to trust and not trust.

Maybe they are demonstrating their distrust of the person they are throwing poop at. As in, "get the hell away from me! I get the evil vibe from you!"

Normally? For the mentally ill person throwing poop it is a normal behavior.

"Fraid there are scientist who disagree with whether humans belong to the animal family. We fit right in there with the primates. Bonobos have 99.9% of the same DNA humans do.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sunny_signs

Reba, you twist words. Humans who fling poo (f*ck this a weird sentence) mentally ill. Nobody say anything about humans who act like animals. Only you.

Exactly.

Steinhauer · 10-30-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sunny_signs

Reba, you twist words. Humans who fling poo (f*ck this a weird sentence) mentally ill. Nobody say anything about humans who act like animals. Only you.

No, let me clarify. Reba did not mention human behaviour in regards to animal behaviour. That was brought up earlier in this discusiion when someone mentioned homosexuality exists in animals as well.

The difference there, is that it isn't actually homosexual behaviour - it is the alpha male claiming dominance.

Ask a Zoologist, not a crack head psychiatrist from a party school.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Yes, Reba, people who behave like animals are mentally ill.

Cite me a case there, Steiny. Because what Reba said was animals throw poop and people don't. That means if a person throws poop, they are not human.

DeafCaroline · 10-30-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

No, let me clarify. Reba did not mention human behaviour in regards to animal behaviour. That was brought up earlier in this discusiion when someone mentioned homosexuality exists in animals as well.

The difference there, is that it isn't actually homosexual behaviour - it is the alpha male claiming dominance.

Ask a Zoologist, not a crack head psychiatrist from a party school.

what crackhead psychiatrist from a party school?

Sunshine · 10-30-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

No, let me clarify. Reba did not mention human behaviour in regards to animal behaviour. That was brought up earlier in this discusiion when someone mentioned homosexuality exists in animals as well.

The difference there, is that it isn't actually homosexual behaviour - it is the alpha male claiming dominance.

Ask a Zoologist, not a crack head psychiatrist from a party school.

You not read post #140 I see.

jillio · 10-30-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

No, let me clarify. Reba did not mention human behaviour in regards to animal behaviour. That was brought up earlier in this discusiion when someone mentioned homosexuality exists in animals as well.

The difference there, is that it isn't actually homosexual behaviour - it is the alpha male claiming dominance.

Ask a Zoologist, not a crack head psychiatrist from a party school.

Yes, she did.

Keep it up Steiny. You are going to make me out you once and for all, and I would really rather not humiliate you like that.

BTW...I am a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. Can't you even get your insults right?

jillio · 10-30-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sunny_signs

You not read post #140 I see.

He tried to read it.

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khrixmrozh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Posts: 38	Thanks for the study. If I ever have to do research for school again, I'll come back to this. (I'm a medical freak, forensic too.) Repeating "we are animals" "are not" "are too" is how children argue. Are children even allowed in the GLBT Lounge? Or any other relationship threads? Aside from the bisexuality factor, which BTW was a great point for the "choice" side, hetero vs homo is not a choice. Rebuttal: bisexuality does have differing ratios (50/50, 60/40, 70/30, etc.), those ratios are genetically set and resistant to change, at least on the physical level. Emotionally, I don't really think orientation affects that too much. Of course, those who say it was a choice to be hetero/homo may just mean that they either choose to accept their inane orientation, or try to resist themselves from it. I chose to accept myself. __________________ Careful...I bite!

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Sunshine Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Home of Canucks! Posts: 3,269 Blog Entries: 2	Dallas just ask why I sit here LOLing at iPad. Is because this very entertaining. Please. Carry on.