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Doug5 10-15-2011 04:46 PM

What Is the Big Deal With Gay Marriage?
 
Why are some people against this? For example, lets say 2 gay people youve never met and most likely never will meet, decide to get married. What business is it of yours? Why would you even care?

shel90 10-15-2011 04:49 PM

I know..my thinking exactly.

Mintee 10-15-2011 04:53 PM

everyone regardless of their orientation has a right to be in love.

Banjo 10-15-2011 05:17 PM

I went to a same-sex wedding back in September. It was a nice wedding, it was just an ordinary outdoor wedding and reception. Everybody had a good time.

whatdidyousay! 10-15-2011 07:44 PM

Some people love to force their hang ups on other people! I think gay marriages should be allowed, it would help create more jobs and get more money flowing
into the economy . People spend a lot of money on their wedding and less people are getting married today so allowing gay people to get married would made up for lost income to businesses that relies weddings to made an income! People need to stay out of other people lives! Live and let live!

dogmom 10-16-2011 11:30 AM

I agree with what everybody here put...

in the West or U.S., people have generally been socialized to believe a myth of a certain behavior pattern, and especially in religious terms. People may not have thought of any other way or seen something besides what they're used to. So they have all biases and misperceptions.

Journey 10-16-2011 01:07 PM

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shel90 10-16-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Journey (Post 1940631)
This kind of sums it up. (click on thumbnail to read more clearly)

:lol:

StevieMont927 10-16-2011 02:36 PM

People figure it's their duty to run the country in the only "correct" way: According to their own moral code. Somehow, if gay people marry, it affects them, and then their children will be taught to embrace beastiality and pedophilia, and then the whole country will go to ruin, all because someone married someone else of the same gender.

Doug5 10-19-2011 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by StevieMont927 (Post 1940683)
People figure it's their duty to run the country in the only "correct" way: According to their own moral code. Somehow, if gay people marry, it affects them, and then their children will be taught to embrace beastiality and pedophilia, and then the whole country will go to ruin, all because someone married someone else of the same gender.

beastiality and pedophillia doesnt involve consenting adults. Comparing gay people getting married to those things is extremely insulting

Jiro 10-19-2011 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5 (Post 1940229)
Why are some people against this? For example, lets say 2 gay people youve never met and most likely never will meet, decide to get married. What business is it of yours? Why would you even care?

because they cannot make baby :eek3:

Doug5 10-19-2011 02:07 AM

should old people not be allowed to get married cuz they cant have children either?

Steinhauer 10-19-2011 06:44 AM

...putting on flame suit ....

Here it is in a nutshell. Mom and Dad, Aunt and Uncle, Grandma and Grandpa.

The FAMILY unit. It has always been this way.

Allowing same sex marriages will lead public educators to teach children that same sex marriages is NORMAL.

It is not "normal" - homosexuality is a sexual deviation. Many have tried, in vain, to claim it is not a deviation (but it is).

That does not mean that homosexuals are inferior, should be treated with scorn, mocked, etc. It is just a deviation from what is considered to be the family unit.

Same sex unions are NOT a marriage. Marriage has always been a religious ceremony, and I can say this right now, there are no scriptural teaching religious sects out there that condone same sex marriages.

I anticipate that any church, temple or mosque that teaches homosexuality to be wrong will be accused of hate speech.


There it is, in a nutshell.

Ildri 10-19-2011 07:06 AM

Actually marriage has, until fairly recently, been primarily about economics (and whatdidyousay! made a very good point regarding that above) and procreation (which Doug5 made a good point about and, I'd add, when the worlds getting so overpopulated why do we need to be concerned about making babies anyway?)

The world has changed, society has changed, so our old rules and ideas need to be adjusted.

Ildri 10-19-2011 07:08 AM

Oh, also- you claim that its not "normal"? Despite the fact that there is a large minority of homosexual and bisexual people? Does that mean that racial minorities are not "normal"? What about left-handedness? Start being too concerned about whats "normal" (which only means what the majority happens to be) and you find yourself on a very slippery slope.

Steinhauer 10-19-2011 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ildri (Post 1942448)
Oh, also- you claim that its not "normal"? Despite the fact that there is a large minority of homosexual and bisexual people? Does that mean that racial minorities are not "normal"? What about left-handedness? Start being too concerned about whats "normal" (which only means what the majority happens to be) and you find yourself on a very slippery slope.

Up until the 1970's homosexuality was considered a sexual deviation (which it is). When the APA was under attack from gay rights activists who used bully techniques to redefine the medical classification for homosexuality, the APA crumbled under pressure.

Those same bully techniques are being used against persons of faith to redefine marriage.

Suppose you have a minority of people who claim the color of the sky is green. The sky is not green, it is blue. Suppose this group of minorities use a social political movement to redefine the color blue to also include the color green. They set out to "medically" define it - to give it a sense of validation. They then set out on belittling anyone who opposes their definition.

That does not make the color of the sky green. The sky is still blue.

Here is a fairy tale to illustrate this point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes


http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/whisper.htm

Jiro 10-19-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5 (Post 1942406)
should old people not be allowed to get married cuz they cant have children either?

oh my god the humanity!

Banjo 10-19-2011 12:04 PM

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Reba 10-19-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5 (Post 1940229)
Why are some people against this?

God commanded that marriage is for one man and one woman. That's His perfect plan, as stated in the book of Genesis, and reiterated throughout Scripture.

The Bible also condemns homosexual behavior as sin. Allowing legal sanction and social acceptance to sin encourages more of the behavior.

whatdidyousay! 10-19-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5 (Post 1942406)
should old people not be allowed to get married cuz they cant have children either?

Old men can have babies they just need a younger woman! Pablo Picasso had a baby when he was an old man.

PowerON 10-19-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro (Post 1942403)
because they cannot make baby :eek3:

It's because they see as "death" when they're not able to make baby.

In some way, it's good to balance the population. More air and food for us.

Jiro 10-19-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay! (Post 1942700)
Old men can have babies they just need a younger woman! Pablo Picasso had a baby when he was an old man.

old men will die of heart attack.

MichaelS 10-19-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer (Post 1942443)
...putting on flame suit ....

Here it is in a nutshell. Mom and Dad, Aunt and Uncle, Grandma and Grandpa.

The FAMILY unit. It has always been this way.

Allowing same sex marriages will lead public educators to teach children that same sex marriages is NORMAL.

It is not "normal" - homosexuality is a sexual deviation. Many have tried, in vain, to claim it is not a deviation (but it is).

That does not mean that homosexuals are inferior, should be treated with scorn, mocked, etc. It is just a deviation from what is considered to be the family unit.

Same sex unions are NOT a marriage. Marriage has always been a religious ceremony, and I can say this right now, there are no scriptural teaching religious sects out there that condone same sex marriages.

I anticipate that any church, temple or mosque that teaches homosexuality to be wrong will be accused of hate speech.


There it is, in a nutshell.

Bless you, when I marry a man it will be a marriage. You'll be free to disagree, as is your right, and you will be wrong. *shrug*

MichaelS 10-19-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba (Post 1942594)
God commanded that marriage is for one man and one woman. That's His perfect plan, as stated in the book of Genesis, and reiterated throughout Scripture.

The Bible also condemns homosexual behavior as sin. Allowing legal sanction and social acceptance to sin encourages more of the behavior.

The Bible condemns much (including women teaching men), but from what I have gleamed from reading the forums, religious discussions are verboten here?

MichaelS 10-19-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro (Post 1942721)
old men will die of heart attack.

might die happy?

Banjo 10-19-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba (Post 1942594)
God commanded that marriage is for one man and one woman. That's His perfect plan, as stated in the book of Genesis, and reiterated throughout Scripture.

The Bible also condemns homosexual behavior as sin. Allowing legal sanction and social acceptance to sin encourages more of the behavior.

No such thing as perfection.

Ildri 10-19-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba (Post 1942594)
God commanded that marriage is for one man and one woman. That's His perfect plan, as stated in the book of Genesis, and reiterated throughout Scripture.

The Bible also condemns homosexual behavior as sin. Allowing legal sanction and social acceptance to sin encourages more of the behavior.

Whatever happened to the separation of church and state???

YOUR religious beliefs lead you to think homosexuality is wrong. MINE lead me to think it's fine :) So we've reached a stalemate...

Doug5 10-19-2011 11:18 PM

It doesnt matter if its normal. It is non of your business.

What if the marriage has a stay at home dad and mother that works. Do you consider that normal enough to allow them to be married?

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer (Post 1942443)
...putting on flame suit ....

Here it is in a nutshell. Mom and Dad, Aunt and Uncle, Grandma and Grandpa.

The FAMILY unit. It has always been this way.

Allowing same sex marriages will lead public educators to teach children that same sex marriages is NORMAL.

It is not "normal" - homosexuality is a sexual deviation. Many have tried, in vain, to claim it is not a deviation (but it is).

That does not mean that homosexuals are inferior, should be treated with scorn, mocked, etc. It is just a deviation from what is considered to be the family unit.

Same sex unions are NOT a marriage. Marriage has always been a religious ceremony, and I can say this right now, there are no scriptural teaching religious sects out there that condone same sex marriages.

I anticipate that any church, temple or mosque that teaches homosexuality to be wrong will be accused of hate speech.


There it is, in a nutshell.


Doug5 10-19-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay! (Post 1942700)
Old men can have babies they just need a younger woman! Pablo Picasso had a baby when he was an old man.

so when women reach mp they no longer should have the right to marry?

Doug5 10-19-2011 11:22 PM

what if I consider the bible to be meaningless?

If I hold a Catcher in Rye book, does it give me the right to condemn you as a phony?

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Originally Posted by MichaelS (Post 1942735)
The Bible condemns much (including women teaching men), but from what I have gleamed from reading the forums, religious discussions are verboten here?



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