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Unread 07-29-2011, 01:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Los Angeles (CNN) -- Nadya Suleman on Thursday blamed the creation of the "Octomom character" that she has become synonymous with in part on a California fertility specialist who, she said, had her sign a consent form while she was drugged.

The California woman said she did not mean to have eight children in January 2009, in addition to the six she already had. But while she admitted she did want more children, she insisted she was in no condition to understand a form Dr. Michael Kamrava put in front of her before implanting 12 embryos.

"He wrote something, he gave it to me to sign," Suleman told HLN's Dr. Drew Pinsky on Thursday night. She said she was then on "a cocktail of drugs" including Valium at the Beverly Hills doctor's office because her uterus was contracting. "I signed it, and I didn't read it."

Kamrava lost his California medical license July 1 after state officials ruled that he committed "gross negligence" with "repeated negligent acts, for an excessive number of embryo transfers" into Suleman in 2008, the state's medical board wrote. The same report determined that the doctor felt the implantation was driven "by the patient's wishes."

During a hearing for the doctor last October, it was revealed Suleman still has 29 frozen embryos in storage. Contrary to some reports, though, the 36-year-old woman insisted Thursday that she doesn't want any more children.







Octomom: I'm a ball of anxiety

That said, the single mother -- who said she has been celibate for 12 years, and had all 14 children by in vitro fertilization -- admitted that she chose to have children in part to address her emotional baggage.

"Is it fair to have a bunch of kids help solve your emotional issues? Of course not," she said.

"With children, I feel so safe in my predictable world. They will never leave me. Kids love you, unconditionally."

Suleman admits that she has a host of problems, including anxiety, panic attacks, hyperactivity and obsessive compulsive disorder. "My brain and body are racing constantly," she added, noting she exercises extensively and only gets two hours of sleep a night.

But expressing regret for contributing to "this mess (that) has deleteriously affected my kids," Suleman said that she's now speaking out in part to refute having been made into what she called a "parody without permission."

"I have the spotlight, I know it's my responsibility (for my kids) to brush it away and get rid of the Octomom character," she said.

With no steady income and expenses of over $18,000 a month, Suleman has struggled to get by raising her children. She has previously hosted a yard sale at her La Habra, California, home to deal with the hardship, and had reportedly signed on to be on the HDNet reality TV show "Celebridate."

And now, Suleman said she is grateful for money she gets from media interviews, especially with overseas outlets.

She also claims to have received "hundreds of death threats," some targeting her children, as well as a few female stalkers.

"I am hated in my hometown," she said.

Still, Suleman said that despite the difficulties she feels things are improving. And despite her admitted anxiety, paranoia and continued efforts to shield her children -- barring any television or Internet in the house -- she is most at peace at home.

"I feel safest at home with my kids," she said. "And I want to be only there, that's my favorite time at night, in my pajamas playing Twister
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Unread 07-29-2011, 01:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What a freakin' mess. I wonder if there's enough evidence to have this woman investigated for neglect . Surely, having these disorders would interfere in the care of the children should she be untreated. Without treatment, she's undoubtedly a walking disaster waiting to happen.
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I guess she doesn't want to accept the responsibility for having all those kids.
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I think she hopes to get money from the doctor for malpractice.
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I think she hopes to get money from the doctor for malpractice.
You and I both, Botts. I wouldn't trust this woman's story, or her motives, as far as I could throw them both combined. Suspicious that this is just now coming out.

She claimed to have worked in the counseling field prior to becoming pregant with the kids. If so, she knows all about informed consent. I'm not buying that she now claims she was not in a condition to understand. They ask for informed consent prior to ever administering any mood altering medications.
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You and I both, Botts. I wouldn't trust this woman's story, or her motives, as far as I could throw them both combined. Suspicious that this is just now coming out.

She claimed to have worked in the counseling field prior to becoming pregant with the kids. If so, she knows all about informed consent. I'm not buying that she now claims she was not in a condition to understand. They ask for informed consent prior to ever administering any mood altering medications.
It sure is weird. Regardless, there has to be something pathological going on with this woman. People having children to fulfill emotional needs is NOT a new concept in the least. I can buy that she is emotionally ill enough to think having children will make her feel better. But, I agree that it sounds like she's trying to cash in on something, too.
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I think she hopes to get money from the doctor for malpractice.
That was my exact thoughts when I read this article. The gifts stop coming since the newness is wearing off. So she wants more money by suing the Doctor.

She very well may have a case and get money since the Dr was fired for gross negligence.
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That was my exact thoughts when I read this article. The gifts stop coming since the newness is wearing off. So she wants more money by suing the Doctor.

She very well may have a case and get money since the Dr was fired for gross negligence.
Sick isn't it?

An emotionally unwell woman goes to an unscrupulous Dr to have herself inseminated so she can have more children; yet can now SUE that Dr for the very thing she was seeking.
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You and I both, Botts. I wouldn't trust this woman's story, or her motives, as far as I could throw them both combined. Suspicious that this is just now coming out.

She claimed to have worked in the counseling field prior to becoming pregant with the kids. If so, she knows all about informed consent. I'm not buying that she now claims she was not in a condition to understand. They ask for informed consent prior to ever administering any mood altering medications.
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Sick isn't it?

An emotionally unwell woman goes to an unscrupulous Dr to have herself inseminated so she can have more children; yet can now SUE that Dr for the very thing she was seeking.
I agree, The Mother is claiming she has all kinds of issues... Dang, I only have four kids and I need a straight jacket from time to time....I betcha this woman had no clue what she was getting herself into. She already, obviously had issues from the begining. Like you, I think she is a ticking time bomb ready to explode.
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What gets me, is she still have 29 frozen embryos in storage..... :umm: What for???
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What gets me, is she still have 29 frozen embryos in storage..... :umm: What for???
Well, to be fair to most fertility clinics, they often harvest more embryos then they implant. This is incase more than one insemination is needed.

But, IN HER case, I have to ask the same question. This may be an unsavory suggestion, but perhaps, those other embryos should now be destroyed? Nadia sure as heck shouldn't be inseminated again.

Is there such a thing as an egg bank for the embryos to be donated to? (Thinking in terms of a sperm bank here, but am reaching.....).
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I agree, The Mother is claiming she has all kinds of issues... Dang, I only have four kids and I need a straight jacket from time to time....I betcha this woman had no clue what she was getting herself into. She already, obviously had issues from the begining. Like you, I think she is a ticking time bomb ready to explode.
That's an understatement to put it mildly.
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I agree, The Mother is claiming she has all kinds of issues... Dang, I only have four kids and I need a straight jacket from time to time....I betcha this woman had no clue what she was getting herself into. She already, obviously had issues from the begining. Like you, I think she is a ticking time bomb ready to explode.
I knew she had issues when this all came out years ago! That much was obvious.
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If she wants money so badly, why doesn't she just ask TLC for her own show?

Sure no one may like her but I'm sure people would eat popcorn and watch her raise all those kids.

Theres people that still finds Jerry Springer entertaining...
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If she wants money so badly, why doesn't she just ask TLC for her own show?

Sure no one may like her but I'm sure people would eat popcorn and watch her raise all those kids.

Theres people that still finds Jerry Springer entertaining...
I never was one of those people.
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What gets me, is she still have 29 frozen embryos in storage..... :umm: What for???
Good point, in her case , she probably wants to have more kids who knows? She's going downhill and needs money in my opinion. When she gained fame and fortune, cameras were following all over the place going to tattoo parlors , like she needs that, she ought to be home taking care of all those kids.
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What gets me, is she still have 29 frozen embryos in storage..... :umm: What for???
Theoretically, they could be donated to someone who is infertile.

I'd say this woman would have a hard time getting a doctor or a clinic to agree to ever implant her again.
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She quoted she gets by on 2 hours of sleep and exercises a lot...

For the life of me, how can one person take care of all those kids?...It's impossible...I'm sure they basically are taking care of themselves (?)...
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She quoted she gets by on 2 hours of sleep and exercises a lot...

For the life of me, how can one person take care of all those kids?...It's impossible...I'm sure they basically are taking care of themselves (?)...
No doubt the older ones are getting a lot of hands on experience in parenting.
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No doubt the older ones are getting a lot of hands on experience in parenting.
I think that was what people did till medince reduced infantry mortality and improved the odds of surviving childhood and improved B/C.
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It's finally happened: her kids drove her stark raving mad.
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It's finally happened: her kids drove her stark raving mad.
I think she inherited her craziness from her kids.
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I think she inherited her craziness from her kids.

The woman was NUTS beforehand. She just now have kids to blame for it. Insted of accepting the fact she has a mental illness.
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The woman was NUTS beforehand. She just now have kids to blame for it. Insted of accepting the fact she has a mental illness.
We weren't being serious. When I said that thing about inheriting the craziness from her kids. i was referring to tshirts that parents wore in the 1980s..


I don't think all those kids helped her mental issues though and it just made her mental issues a lot worse then they had to be.
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We weren't being serious. When I said that thing about inheriting the craziness from her kids. i was referring to tshirts that parents wore in the 1980s..


I don't think all those kids helped her mental issues though and it just made her mental issues a lot worse then they had to be.


I figured you guys were joking.

Oh no doubt..... that is why I said she did not have a clue what she was getting herself into.
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I figured you guys were joking.

Oh no doubt..... that is why I said she did not have a clue what she was getting herself into.
I have no doubt about that one.
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