lexismom64

excuse me if you feel the need to reply do it to ideafspy it is his thread okay leave me out of it ......none are as blind as those who will not see

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coloravalanche

aww...i think i know who you are...possibility you are him or his friend...because you are being defensive...

Cheri

coloravalanche,

Just ignored this person, Ok hun?

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ideafspy

For your information,

you need to settle down and how do you think I am the roommate or whatever you think

I don't appericate what you just comment but you seem have serious problem in oklahoma like you are pointing at that person and I don't know that person.

coloravalanche

STOP IT DREW! I Know its you! you send me PM from your other username that is called "freetruth"...I read your posts and threads....you are from oklahoma and I know you very well!

QUIT LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH!!!!!

ideafspy

I know what the different to have without childern or with childern. Thank you very much I appericate with your words.

However; if you know person and that went roll off that he or she didn't do anything but help. If you conerise this and then I will said that you are zip both your eyes and attach yourself as selftem too much. So its no need said, "Most of us have children" because do Deaf need keep SSI to be fed them instead have their children?

coloravalanche

Besides...you threated me that you are the one who has spread the rumors that I am a witch....you confessed it through PM so stop it now!

ideafspy

:stupid:

ideafspy

about what? you are looking for support and inner-self problem

Heath

Whoa .... let's clear it all up. It is really simple. I will tell it like it is without pulling no punches or watering it down.

With murder, somebody is dead forever.

With sexual abuse, This causes all kinds of problems for the child , not to mention alots of people who were sexually abused as kids turn out to be a homosexual as adults, which they never would have been a homosexual in the first place had they not been abused.

Beside, why would anybody want to have sex with a small girl of 8 years old when his wife is at home in bed and he could have all the sexual relations he wanted with his wife or a guy who does not think having sex with a 11 year old boy really is homosexuality at its worst.

There are many different ways to have sex without harming a child.

I don't want to support prostitution but if your wife refuses sex then you can go to a prostitute , many policemen , lawyers judges and another guys etc. depend on prostitutes for sexual sastification when their wives are too busy or refuse to have sex and the thing here is that these guys who work very hard refuse to touch a small child as this is commonsense from the guts and they know that it is digusting which is worthy of death.

They will have sex with a prostitute which is no problem as this is a business transcation and both parties agree to sex.

You can go out and date another woman who is willing to have sex with you everyday and she actually enjoys the sex too.

I am not supporting extramartial affairs either but there are many different ways to get laid.

But the thing here is that come on , man ..... there is no known or un-known excuses for having sex with a child.

We need to have lynchings and firing squads. That would put a stop to all this sickness and evil going on really fast.

Why anyone would marry someone who is like that beats me ???

lilylover72

Hello, My uncle is sex offener. He messed me up and my cousins. He did to any small children. I tried tell my dad about that. He didnt believe me. I was all alone because my cousins refuse tell the truth. I was with cousins that my uncle messed us up same time. My cousins and I were so young like 8 to 13 years old. I was 18 years old that My uncle finally got caught. He did to a little girl and got caught. My dad was very speechless that I told him look at my uncle that he went to prison for that.

Then I was 23 years old that my uncle got out of prison. It freaked me out because I knew he will never learn to stop do mess small children. He had a wife and daugther. His daugther really worry me so much that she was so baby. I warned his wife about watch out over him. I asked her why my uncle was in prison long time ago. She said sex offener. I said be careful.

Guess what? In 2 year ago My uncle got caught because the small children complain that he messed them. He was babysitting them. Scary! My uncle never allow his wife enter his office room. The polices had to come and had to enter his office room. the cops found many child porn and pictures etc. How horrible that he did. He has to go prison again. The law said he must live in prison for 60 years. Now I found out that he is trying get out from prison in 5 year. It upset me so bad. I think he must live in prison for lifetime!

neecy

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Heath

Yeah, I agree too.

This is a very highly emotionally charged topic which nobody likes to talk about, man .....

Like I said, why anyone would marry someone like that beats me ???

ayala920

In general, I feel bad for a lot of sex offenders because so many of them suffer from psychological disorders. Despite being disgusted by the actions of most, I would never say I hate them. It would also be a bit hypocritical of me, since I work with a lot of teenage sex offenders. Not surprisingly, many of them were sexually abused when they were younger.

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IslandGal

Excuse me??? You feel bad for a lot of sex offenders???? Get out of here.
I don't feel bad for any of them at all whether or not they suffer from any kinds of disorders. It is still NO excuse for them to sexually abuse children. I have two little girls and if anything happens to them I will have the offender shot.

Angel

What if a sex offender rape one of your children, will you actually still feel bad for them?..

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IslandGal

She probably doesn't feel bad for these innocent victims out there who were raped and murdered by sexual offenders.

*shakes my head in disguist*

neecy

Let me get this straight .... he's engaged to the SISTER of a known sex offender. What's the problem here? The sister isn't the one who abused people. That's like saying somebody shouldn't marry the brother/sister of a murderer. Sexual deviation isn't contagous - as long as the sister makes sure any children they might have don't have contact with her brother, I see no problem, and no need for the assault going on in here.

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coloravalanche

Neecy, I understand what you are saying...you dont know the whole story...long story short...He is engaged to my ex husband's sister...they all are deaf...

My ex husband's sister was molested by her brother (my ex hubby)...he molested her when she was little...plus he molested 2 other little girls and 1 little boy...

I agree with you that its not a problem for sister marrying to anyone...this guy that she is engaged to is not the right guy for her...anyway...I hope that my ex hubby wont moleste his sister's future children!!

Im not here to assault anyone...you dont know the whole story...

coloravalanche

I think you are one of them...

ROE

I own a condominium with very thin walls which allows me to hear more
than I want to and my last neighbor which I managed to get thrown out of the complex, he and his wife were both abusive to their little children who were under the age of six, I called child protective services three times
but apparently they found no problems which considering the degree of violence in the home I am very shocked.

But this man was a pedaphile and he would beat his wife every day and she would do the same to him when he was really sick in the bathroom from his drug habit and the children I hurt so bad for because there wasn't a day that
went past that I did not hear them cry, and their expression was always of sadness but also when I'd hear them play together in their room they would
hurt one another because that's the only way they knew how to deal with
their pain.

When I looked at them all I could see is what the little children would eventually become and that is sad because there is no excuse for any child to suffer in such a way, so yes I to do feel sorrow in seeing a life that has been lost to this illness because it could have been prevented.

These people need to be stopped and they need correction if it is at all possible but considering most are damaged for life mentally because of what they've been put through I applaude anyone who can take someone who has been so corrupted and change them for the better.

As a victim of sexual abuse I find it very hard though to believe that such
people are capable of change, I would be willing though to forgive the person who hurt me if I thought that person would never harm another child again but
being that one act destroys all trust, I would never again trust that person around my children if I had children.

Liebling:-)))

*nodding agreement* I feel bad for victims. If victims who are being exposed like this need professional help before worst later.

I was being abused in the past. I thank counsellor to get me to therapy to learn to respect myself. I can image what would I become if I didn't get the help an earlier? I found out that the abusers who hurt me have bad childhood in the past. I don't feel bad for abusers because they should feel bad themselves after what they did to victims.

I would of get my children to therapy STRAIGHT WAY after learn that they are being abuse by sex offender because my children's suffering and their future come first, I'm worried about. They need my loving support and comfort than busy to being over sex offenders etc. Of course I would what sex offend did to my children at first and then consider my children...

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lexismom64

excuse me ladys? i dont think you would know how u are actually going to feel unless it happens to one of your children? butterfly girl no it does not mean we dont feel sorry for the victums .......and angel yes it happened to my 4 year old daughter....try explaining that to a 4 year old.....and coloravalanche no i am not one of them??? i personally hope none of you ever have that experience in your precious familys in this lifetime ....but tragically if it does happen i would hope people will be more compassionate with you and try to understand your feelings about it more......that does not mean that i dont want to kill the person that did that to my daughter......i want to kill him everyday.....but you have to get over the hate...to live a fulfilling life ......because the hate can literly ruin your life....i can honestly say i know....i wish to god every day that didnt though.....

Liebling:-)))

I have few question for you. I hope you dont' mind.

You said that you feel bad for sex offenders due their bad childhood experience in the past. Correct?

If yes, I can understand your point but to me, I would say that they should feel sorry themselves after what they did to innoncent victims because they know it's total wrong. Why hurt innoncent victim like this? I know sex offenders would say "I don't know why", "I don't know"...... Correct?

You said that you work with sex offenders. Are you a psychologtist or what? What you do with them? Did you ask sex offenders how do they feel after what they did to innoncent victims?

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Liebling:-)))

[quote]Am I one of them?

Please try to understand parent's feeling.

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lexismom64

[quote=Liebling:-)))]no liebling it was not directed to you .......it was just upsetting to me and i probably should not have written it but ......it made me feel like they were saying because of my feelings on the matter ....that i was like holding my daughter up and saying here she is sex offenders come and get her

Liebling:-)))

Yes I can understand your point, Ideafspy ...

Example like this.
http://www.alldeaf.com/strange-stupid-news/25686-first-grader-suspended-sex-harassment.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163844,00.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=45477

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.ph...ht=belly+dance

I remember the link somewhere at other forum that a mother won at court battle because the photo developer informed authorities after saw the picture of her with her baby son in the bath at 2 years ago. I will provide the link here when I find.

This is an example what Ideafspy tried to point out. I'm agree that it's too extreme when someone label you as sex offender when you bath with your baby or kiss your baby's tummy...

And other worst example, I never forget rest of my life... I was one of supporters who help 11-year-old Swiss-American Raoul Wuthrich to free from prison in America. They handccuffed him because neighbor report Police that she saw him pull down his 5 years old sister's pants and touch her private part. US law consider him as sex offender "sexually molester". He is only help his sister urinate... I just can't beleive how extreme the law to consider children as sex offender. He went back to home in Switerzland and visit to therapy. It must be bad nightmare for him...

Interesting link... Worth to read. I don't know either you heard about this or not.
http://www.worldlymind.org/swissboy.htm#free

I can image what if police saw Danny help Alan urinate in America... It must be scary nightmare for me as parent... Of course Danny help Alan urinate voluntarily when Alan was a little boy. My hubby or I bath with our boys when they were babies/toddlers. It doesn't bother European law because they know it's not sex offence. Of course took picture of me or hubby with our children in the bath... It doesn't bother photo developer as well.

They surely take serious if they see picture of child porn... etc.




It must be scare to consider 18 years old as sex offender because he had sex with 17 years old. I can image what if police handcuffed my 24 years old Dad for make my 17 years old mother pregnant in America because the parents report police on my Dad. It must be scare when I picture my parents.




But... but... One big thing is SEX OFFENDER TOUCH INNONCENT CHILDREN IS NOT ACCEPTANCE...

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Liebling:-)))

True! It's sad when you get hurt after learn that your daughter was being abuse... I can feel your feeling...

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