Mosque Near Ground Zero May Not Get Built After All - Page 3

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

For war in Iraq and the Mideast, passage of the Patriot Act, etcetera.

Those things happened after 9/11.

jillio · 12-17-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

They were brainwashed into believing they were serving their God.

Just as all fundamental extremists believe that. No matter their religion.

**Beowulf** · 12-17-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Those things happened after 9/11.

Yup. Some plans work.

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

They were brainwashed into believing they were serving their God.

Which one would that be?

**Banjo** · 12-17-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Which one would that be?

God.

jillio · 12-17-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Which one would that be?

The same one everyone has. The God of their understanding.

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

God.

The same Triune God worshiped by Christians?

jillio · 12-17-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

The same Triune God worshiped by Christians?

Why would it have to be? Even various Christian sects have different ideas of the concept of a Christian God.

This is starting to look like another case of "My God is the only God, and everyone else is worshipping the wrong God."

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

The same one everyone has. The God of their understanding.

Not really. Some people don't believe in any god at all. When "God" is used as a proper noun, then that's a specific name, as opposed to generic "gods." That's why I asked. Specific gods have specific names.

**Banjo** · 12-17-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

The same Triune God worshiped by Christians?

The same God since all Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all Abrahamic religions. The God is monotheistic in all religions, however in the church of Christianity, God is formed by a trinity. Hence, the name "Almighty God" is born.

In Christianity, three persons form a God. all religions are still monotheistic since they are all one God. You don't believe in three Gods, right?

jillio · 12-17-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Not really. Some people don't believe in any god at all. When "God" is used as a proper noun, then that's a specific name, as opposed to generic "gods." That's why I asked. Specific gods have specific names.

And specific is different to different people and sects. It still refers to their concept of a monotheistic God.

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Why would it have to be? Even various Christian sects have different ideas of the concept of a Christian God.

This is starting to look like another case of "My God is the only God, and everyone else is worshipping the wrong God."

No, I'm not saying "right" or "wrong." I'm just asking for a specific answer. "God" is too general to be clear.

jillio · 12-17-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

No, I'm not saying "right" or "wrong." I'm just asking for a specific answer. "God" is too general to be clear.

The monotheistic God of the individual's understanding, which may or may not be congruent with the God of your understanding.

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

The same God since all Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all Abrahamic religions. The God is monotheistic in all religions, however in the church of Christianity, God is formed by a trinity. Hence, the name "Almighty God" is born.

In Christianity, three persons form a God. all religions are still monotheistic since they are all one God. You don't believe in three Gods, right?

No, I don't believe in three gods.

The Triune God of Christians is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

When you stated, "They were brainwashed into believing they were serving their God," who brainwashed them?

Did they believe that they were serving God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

The monotheistic God of the individual's understanding, which may or may not be congruent with the God of your understanding.

The individuals in question, the 9/11 hijackers, what was their understanding of "God?"

**Banjo** · 12-17-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

When you stated, "They were brainwashed into believing they were serving their God," who brainwashed them?

Did they believe that they were serving God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

Well, I wouldn't say they were serving The Father, Son and Holy Spirit since that's not what they believe in the religion of Islam.

Now, do I really need to say who brainwashed them? The religious fanatics who abused the principles of their religion.

**Beowulf** · 12-17-2010, 01:24 PM

Sigh. Am I the only one to be exasperated that 9/11 is blamed on Muslims????

jillio · 12-17-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Sigh. Am I the only one to be exasperated that 9/11 is blamed on Muslims????

Nope.

**Reba** · 12-17-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Sigh. Am I the only one to be exasperated that 9/11 is blamed on Muslims????

I'm not blaming all Muslims; only the ones who were involved in 9/11.

**Banjo** · 12-17-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I'm not blaming all Muslims; only the ones who were involved in 9/11.

They were religious fanatics.

rolling7 · 12-17-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Sigh. Am I the only one to be exasperated that 9/11 is blamed on Muslims????

Then state actually who/whom you blame 9/11 on.

**shel90** · 12-17-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Then state actually who/whom you blame 9/11 on.

A bunch of people who hate America.

rolling7 · 12-17-2010, 04:17 PM

There is a whole bunch of people worldwide that hate America and they aint going to do anything like the Muslim fanatics did.

jillio · 12-17-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Then state actually who/whom you blame 9/11 on.

Some brown skinned terrorists who happen to live in a country where the majority religion is Islam.

And a guy named Bush.

jillio · 12-17-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

There is a whole bunch of people worldwide that hate America and they aint going to do anything like the Muslim fanatics did.

How do you know they won't? Got a crystal ball? Get rid of your hate, dude. It is eating you alive. First poor people and now Muslims.

**Beowulf** · 12-17-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

A bunch of people who hate America.

Just America? Try the world.

**TXgolfer** · 12-18-2010, 02:23 AM

And what about the thousands of Muslims who danced in the streets and gave out candy to children to celebrate the attacks???? What do we call them?

And what about US Mosques that were found to have given money to AQ???

**Beowulf** · 12-18-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

And what about the thousands of Muslims who danced in the streets and gave out candy to children to celebrate the attacks???? What do we call them?

And what about US Mosques that were found to have given money to AQ???

What about them?
What about the dancing Israelis?
9-11 Attacks: The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested on 9-11

**TXgolfer** · 12-18-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

What about them?
What about the dancing Israelis?
9-11 Attacks: The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested on 9-11

Nice link

jillio · 12-18-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Just America? Try the world.

No doubt.

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Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	Sigh. Am I the only one to be exasperated that 9/11 is blamed on Muslims????

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	There is a whole bunch of people worldwide that hate America and they aint going to do anything like the Muslim fanatics did.