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Old 10-31-2009, 11:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I hate to say this....but....Yiz, I saw this in the "joke" section of a site I was reading!...Is it possible you were just "joking" here?
It's a political joke, yes it is.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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blah - you've got it wrong.

Think about it -
in Scotland you can do this:
Apply for a travel visa, while there, apply for work visa... the government will give you a job in your specialty.

Denmark = free house for the deaf

and many other good examples
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:04 PM   #33 (permalink)
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None of that negates my statement. Without border regulation there is no way to keep out people who want to do harm to American citizens.

If anything, history proves my point. Without border regulation, the original population in North America lost their sovereignty.
There are people who have lived in America all their lives that want to do harm to American citizens. Remember the good ole Unibomber or Timothy McVeigh? Go on the net and check out the proliferation of hate groups and separtist extremists that exist. They most certainly pose more danger to this country than the immigrants do.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:06 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Our country was built by LEGAL immigrants. We haven't turned against LEGAL immigrants.
And how do you feel about the forced immigrants that have contributed to the building of this country? We only let the people in who we think will provide a beneficial service to those already here?
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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It's a political joke, yes it is.
If it is a joke, it is in very poor taste. Perhaps you should have posted it in the jokes section instead of the debate section if it was intended to be funny.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:14 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Our country was built by LEGAL immigrants. We haven't turned against LEGAL immigrants.
but INS and visa documentation didn't exist when Mayflower ship came in. It's pretty much free-for-all. I don't recall them asking Native Americans for permission to settle in America
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:43 PM   #37 (permalink)
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but INS and visa documentation didn't exist when Mayflower ship came in. It's pretty much free-for-all. I don't recall them asking Native Americans for permission to settle in America
I said "our country"--that is, the United States of America. Prior to our establishment as an independent sovereign nation, we didn't have official borders or Federal immigration policies. There was no USA when the Mayflower landed.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:52 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I said "our country"--that is, the United States of America. Prior to our establishment as an independent sovereign nation, we didn't have official borders or Federal immigration policies. There was no USA when the Mayflower landed.
fair enough. you're right.

one more thing - I do not believe these illegals should have same benefits as us (legal residents). They should not get driver license or whatsoever (except emergency care & public school) but I think our immigration policy (which may reek of xenophobia) shouldn't be that tough on them like "deport them all!" Majority of illegals came here for "better life" and I sympathize. I ain't complaining cuz they're doing the jobs that majority of Americans do not want to. Worse of all - they ain't complaining and they're doing hard work for little money. I recognize their significant contribution to our economy. It's why the politicians turn a blind eye on them.

However - there are some illegals who are actually dangerous - both criminals and terrorists. But not really a major concern for me since majority of terrorism in here are domestic dissents.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:59 PM   #39 (permalink)
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The U.S. was founded by subjects to the King of England. Still love ya, Brits!

The U.S. was built by many people, including slaves who were chattel (not even considered human, let alone citizens) and women (who could not vote until 1920).
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