Jiro

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well - do you agree or not?


*it's a pix of President Bush with a frown. caption - "so we'll hate him. because he can take it. because he's not our hero. he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. a dark knight."

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Frisky Feline

I don't know what to say. I know he will be around while he will figure it out to get people's attentions back in a short time. hahaha I don't hate him. He made bad choices.

~*Kaelei*~

I don't hate him... I just hated the bad choices he made that has deeply impacted our country in a bad way.

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Grummer

he smokes weed

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Frisky Feline

craving for this one, huh?

Bottesini

I don't hate him.

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faire_jour

I threw up in my mouth reading that. I believe that deep down inside, he is a disgusting person. I believe he is greedy, selfish, and full of hate.

Bottesini

But what about his abilities as a leader?

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Reba

If someone said that about President Obama, would that be a racist statement?

Tousi

...deep down inside, he is a disgusting person. I believe he is greedy, selfish, and full of hate.[/QUOTE]
If someone said that about President Obama, would that be a racist statement?[/QUOTE]

Haha, Reba; speaking of racism, the word does not carry nearly the same impact it once did because too many people have trigger-fingered to pull out the race card, have cried wolf way too many times......

faire_jour

Only if they said it because of his race. Like "all black people are..." or "Obama is (because he's black)..."

sallylou

You can compare Bush to a monkey because he's white. You can't compare Obama to a monkey because it carries the horrible connotation that African Americans are "jungle monkeys." Get the difference?

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Lighthouse77

I guess if Bush had a Learning Disability, and they painted him a picture of a monkey (because they think he has a brain of a monkey) , it would be insult to all people who have a LD, right?

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sallylou

Yes, Lighthouse, I would call that an insult to LD people. That's not acceptable.

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shel90

I personally dont know him but didnt like him as a leader.

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Reba

Therefor, the current criticisms of Obama's presidency are not racist, correct?

Reba

So what can Obama be compared to safely that wouldn't have a racist connotation?

sallylou

Pictures of tribal witch doctors speak for themselves.

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Reba

I never hated him, and he did seem able to "take it." He doesn't publicly criticize past presidents or the current President.

I agreed with the way he handled many things, and I also disagreed with the way he handled many things.

We'll probably never know how many attacks after 9/11 were thwarted because of his decisions.

KarissaMann05

Agreed with the picture. I think he did try his best. He didn't care about popularity on him, and he wanted to keep country safe. Now, I think there were no terrorists in the America soil since September 11, 2001 to January 20, 2009. I remember some members on Internet did say they felt so safe when Bush was a president.

Do I hate him? No, not at all.

Reba

But that didn't answer my question.

Are these pictures are OK?

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...ctor--8441.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L6pDyjqqsv...tch+doctor.jpg

rockin'robin

No, I don't hate him, and yes, I think he tried his best. I think he was a strong president, with basically a good heart, and patriotic. I felt the same way with Nixon. I really don't see how anyone can "hate" the president of the United States??? Dislike him, yes...but hate? No.

Jolie77

You know, it's funny how we are at the point where we say we hate Bush and the likes of that. I'm sure EVERY presidents has had his own flaws to begin with.

Bush may have thought he was doing the right thing as per interest in protecting this country. He may have done some complimentary actions just as others has done. But, Does that make it wrong? Maybe yes. Maybe not.

There are a lot of things that I don't condone of what Bush has done but it does not mean that I would hate him for his decision. Just as much as Obama is doing, Obama is trying to think of the right thing to do in order to bring vitality for everyone. Hence, we may agree or disagree on many things.

The bottom line is, Not Bush can make everyone happy. Obama can't make everyone happy too. We all can't make everyone happy either.

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souggy

I never really paid any attention to Bush. I means the only thing I got against him is the fact he didn't respect Iraq's sovereignty. He made the right call regarding Afghanistan though.

Other than that, he did what he thought was right, and not everyone will agree with everything. It's not like he is the worst president in the history of the United States. Besides everyone knows that administrative staff has more power over the nation and her people than the President himself.

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sallylou

Those pics are funny. The point, I think, is that Bush is not a black person. It's just not credible to depict Bush as a witchdoctor. The stereotype of the primitive, ignorant black witch doctor applies to black people. It doesn't apply to white people. It doesn't have the same connotation. Sure, it's tacky and in poor taste but it's not a credible attack on Bush's race.

It's like sexism. When a man makes a stereotypical comment about hysterical, shrill women who drive poorly, that's sexism. Say the same thing about a man and it's not the same. Men haven't been traditionally dismissed as hysterical, incompetent people. Does that make sense?

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LDNanna

Nah, dont hate him. Just glad the Bush regime is over... sigh.

Loghead

I'm not going to say I liked the man, but I also didn't hate him. I never had to worry about him because I'm not American. I think Americans could have done better, because Lord knows Bush just got into office because his daddy was once the president as well.

As for the "dark knight" stuff? :bsflag:

Liebling:-)))

As private person, he has a good sense of humor and as president of the USA, he was not a good leader.



Answer Jiro´s question.

No, I don´t hate him but I don´t like him as leader.

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CJB

I don't hate him as a person cause I don't know him personally. But I do hate the most of the decisions he made and refused to make as president.

CJB

Absolutely makes sense. It doesn't work when it doesn't play on pre-existing notions.