Do you believe in death penalty - Page 3

matlinfan1991 · 07-10-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

I voted yes. The old code of "a eye for an eye" makes sense to me. If you kill someone, you shouldn't benefit by a life of free food while sitting in prison.

You didn't finish the "eye for an eye" quote. It's "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." - Gandi.

I'm not for or against the death penalty, really. I hate the idea of it. But I've never had someone I know get murdered (thank God). So I can't say how I would feel if that happened.

jazzy · 07-10-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by matlinfan1991

You didn't finish the "eye for an eye" quote. It's "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." - Gandi.

I'm not for or against the death penalty, really. I hate the idea of it. But I've never had someone I know get murdered (thank God). So I can't say how I would feel if that happened.

For your sake, I hopeit will never happens to you but unfortunely for my sister in law, her nephew was murder two months ago. sigh. it is worst feeling I ever had for someone closer to us in the family.

It brings me in tear now.

May God rest him in peace.

**shel90** · 07-10-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

For your sake, I hopeit will never happens to you but unfortunely for my sister in law, her nephew was murder two months ago. sigh. it is worst feeling I ever had for someone closer to us in the family.

It brings me in tear now.

May God rest him in peace.

Oh my gosh! How horrible! My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

Hope you and your family will find justice.

xspinningisfun · 07-10-2009, 06:28 PM

I'm undecided about the death penalty...

rockin'robin · 07-10-2009, 08:58 PM

MY vote was a resounding "YES"....as my mother was murdered (shot to death) in front of me and my sister.....(another post)

Sometimes it takes a crime to be seen first-hand to make ur decision.....

So, my vote was quite easy....no if's or butt's!

xspinningisfun · 07-10-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

MY vote was a resounding "YES"....as my mother was murdered (shot to death) in front of me and my sister.....(another post)

Sometimes it takes a crime to be seen first-hand to make ur decision.....

So, my vote was quite easy....no if's or butt's!

I am so sorry to hear that! My friend was also murdered in 2006. It was really hard. But I can't imagine my own mother being killed. :[ :[ :[

<3 <3 <3

**Bottesini** · 07-10-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by matlinfan1991

You didn't finish the "eye for an eye" quote. It's "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." - Gandi.

I'm not for or against the death penalty, really. I hate the idea of it. But I've never had someone I know get murdered (thank God). So I can't say how I would feel if that happened.

Are you an idiot or just totally arrogant?

The quote "an eye for an eye" is Jewish law and appears in the book of Exodus.

Believe me, if I say something I know what I am saying.

Grummer · 07-10-2009, 11:00 PM

death penalty for religious people, they wont mind

**Pepsi** · 07-10-2009, 11:14 PM

I do believe in the death penalty and I also believe that it should be that if someone kills another person they should die the same way.

**Dismal Shadow** · 07-10-2009, 11:54 PM

"An eye for an eye, an arm for an arm."
I vote "Only for certain reasons" if it's that bad.

xspinningisfun · 07-11-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Grummer

death penalty for religious people, they wont mind

ouch. lol

Grummer · 07-11-2009, 02:20 AM

come to think of it, it makes a lot of sense wiping out religous people, because they starts like 90% of wars , real hypocrisy, so much for preaching "love" or "good deeds" trouble is their imaginary friends have different ideas of the passage of death from the land of the living, moreso they fail to realise its all about culture, unbelievable.

Grummer · 07-11-2009, 02:27 AM

but reality for me to an opinion, its death penalty is a good idea comes across sensible when we realise the huge cost to soceity to run jails but then again, its not real justice since the business of incancaration is in fact Very lucarative! as it seem to serve purpose of job provisions by constricting the job pool market. it really complex as no one place is operated the same as others, (states to states/country to country). I actually sometimes think that jails are there to "prove" the need for criminal/civil/military laws while the prisoners reality may be VERY different.

Sosie · 07-11-2009, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

MY vote was a resounding "YES"....as my mother was murdered (shot to death) in front of me and my sister.....(another post)

Sometimes it takes a crime to be seen first-hand to make ur decision.....

So, my vote was quite easy....no if's or butt's!

I am so sorry to hear that. What terrible and unpleasant experience. Again, I am so sorry to hear that.

Sosie · 07-11-2009, 06:11 AM

I voted yes!

**Cheri** · 07-11-2009, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Grummer

death penalty for religious people, they wont mind

Grummer · 07-11-2009, 07:07 AM

lol

jazzy · 07-11-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Oh my gosh! How horrible! My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

Hope you and your family will find justice.

Thanks, Shel90

We got the killer and he is now waiting for a trial in Texas. I am keeping following up thru my brother. Really sad.

jazzy · 07-11-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Grummer

death penalty for religious people, they wont mind

I used to be against death penalty till recently. No one deserve to die. And do you think I am religiious person? I hate death but it is not right for anyone to take life from someone else especially when they are your children.

diehardbiker · 07-11-2009, 11:45 AM

I vote against dealth penalty (Well too late for me to vote anyway).

Death penalty is short-lived punishment. Most death penalty last maybe 2 minutes worth of suffering then that scumbag goes rest in peace without any suffering and pain. Whats point of death penalty?

What I like see most is scumbag suffer constantly being told to do this and that and told NOT to do this and that. Also, suffering getting their rear (Censored) by other inmates, getting hurt by fights, lonely gets their heads and they get crazy, and that last for years and years and years while death penalty only 2 minutes of suffering.

I would only support suffering, long and painful death if one exists, however none really exist so leaving me support lifetime prisionment. Also, no one wants to be in prision for the rest of their life, usually prefers get executed over lifetime prision.

For example this scumbag, Scott Wade Smith, I would support either lifetime in ADMAX or hanging upside down by his gentils and leave him to die upside down. Not sure who he is, Google is your best friend.

**sequoias** · 07-11-2009, 12:28 PM

I heard that it costs more to have death penalty than life sentence. It was mentioned on the news last year, I think. It's due to courts, lawyers and people who want to keep him alive.

**Foxrac** · 07-11-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

I heard that it costs more to have death penalty than life sentence. It was mentioned on the news last year, I think. It's due to courts, lawyers and people who want to keep him alive.

Yup, that's true, however I do support death penalty in some certain, especially serial killers or terrorists.

**KarissaMann05** · 07-11-2009, 06:07 PM

My POV was changed a little on death penalty. I still don't like this one so I personally oppose it, yet I reluctantly support it legal. I like to see all flaws removed in the death penalty...

**shel90** · 07-12-2009, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

I heard that it costs more to have death penalty than life sentence. It was mentioned on the news last year, I think. It's due to courts, lawyers and people who want to keep him alive.

Yea, when I learned that, it didnt make sense to me. Appeals and appeals made by their stupid lawyers is what costs an arm and leg.

Grummer · 07-12-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Yea, when I learned that, it didnt make sense to me. Appeals and appeals made by their stupid lawyers is what costs an arm and leg.

hmm when we Really think about it, lawyers and judges are the criminals, they make so much money out of other people's troubles in an uneven society.
It's not right, in some strange perspective Id like to point out to that, it seems that laws are made so there is a guarantee that someone will be unhappy and try to cheat, even if they are disadvantaged by the system, they dont care, its all comes down to 'they broke the law' - now its my fees is coming to me, as I'd barter their fate',

I dont expect anyone to agree or like my views, but here i said it. The justice system is pure shit, if somehow we can eradicate desparation that provokes people into crime, it is this 'small idea' which the is the complete opposite of setting up the system which maintain the restriction that impose unhappiness, strife. Instead, Id like to see a restribution that, if the rich get caught for some crimes, the fines should be held very high, and this actual fines goes back into the pool for the welfare of the poor community's development as in pay packages or large food stamps (1 months worth) for every houses in the block, now that would be nice. It can be done, as long as we have more people interested in this sort of scheme/concepts/idea and to carry it further into feasibility investigation with an aim to actualise this tax-overhaul-fine-restribution order....

just my silly 2 cents

**shel90** · 07-12-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Grummer

death penalty for religious people, they wont mind

Ooohhh touche!

xspinningisfun · 07-12-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

I used to be against death penalty till recently. No one deserve to die. And do you think I am religiious person? I hate death but it is not right for anyone to take life from someone else especially when they are your children.

Oh don't worry, he's just trying to start stuff

But no, I don't know if I'm for the death penalty or against it. I mean, some parts of me ARE for it, but some parts for me aren't for it. Ya know?

PowerON · 07-13-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grummer

death penalty for religious people, they wont mind

Not always. The man killed your best friend. They send in jail for long time. Yet, he escape and killed your another friend. Capture and send to advance prison. How do you feel when he kill your friend in witness? Does he deserve the death penalty or leave to his life to suffer to death in many year in stink room?

**KarissaMann05** · 07-13-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Not always. The man killed your best friend. They send in jail for long time. Yet, he escape and killed your another friend. Capture and send to advance prison. How do you feel when he kill your friend in witness? Does he deserve the death penalty or leave to his life to suffer to death in many year in stink room?

Yeah ... I used to very against it until I read an update journal from one of my old good friends, the long story. His murder did escape for the third time ... I realized how he felt about his murder, his decreased beloved ones, and his several friends I don't know who but were wounded ... very emotional and sad. Which was made my POV had changed a bit more... still, I'm feeling so uneasy about flaws in death penalty system. By the way, like you said, it is not always to be religious person for that. He is, in fact, not a religious person but an angoistic (sp), and he is very pro-death penatly...

pek1 · 07-14-2009, 04:57 PM

I don't recall if I've ever said how I believe about the death penalty. I know it does deter people from doing it . . . don't believe me, ask the person being executed if he/she can do it again and the consequences will be different. Once they're put to death, that's it. Crime by them has been deterred and will never happen again.

I had a second cousin who had stabbed his wife to death and he was later run over by a bus, maybe an hour later. It's too bad, but at least the case is closed. My girlfriend's mother killed her husband (my girlfriend's dad) and now they're both dead. Case closed. Each party has their reward.

I agree that executions should very much be publicly made available, but not televised. Whether the execution is by hanging, chair or firing squad, it should be public. While on death row as well as waiting to be executed, the person should have at least one picture of each person they killed be in front of them at all times.

Executions are "too clean" and not a deterrent to anyone except the criminal at the very end. The criminal gets to appeal their conviction and sentence almost endless times. The victim (s) didn't get this choice. The criminal gets to have their choice of last meal. The victim (s) never did. The criminal gets to say goodbye to their loved ones. The victim (s) never got that chance. The criminal gets to say any last words. The victim (s) never did.

I believe that when the criminal is convicted and the death sentence given, it should be carried out at once.

View Poll Results: Do you believe in the death penity?
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07-10-2009, 06:28 PM	#64 (permalink)
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07-10-2009, 11:00 PM	#68 (permalink)
Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,534	death penalty for religious people, they wont mind __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

07-10-2009, 11:54 PM	#70 (permalink)
Dismal Shadow Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ivalice Posts: 3,476	"An eye for an eye, an arm for an arm." I vote "Only for certain reasons" if it's that bad. __________________ Atheism in the name of God is an abandonment of all religious beliefs … giving up the attempt to make sense of the world in terms of any fixed idea or intellectual system. It is becoming again as a child and laying oneself open to reality as it is actually and directly felt, experiencing it without trying to categorize, identify or name it. – Alan Watts

07-11-2009, 02:20 AM	#72 (permalink)
Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,534	come to think of it, it makes a lot of sense wiping out religous people, because they starts like 90% of wars , real hypocrisy, so much for preaching "love" or "good deeds" trouble is their imaginary friends have different ideas of the passage of death from the land of the living, moreso they fail to realise its all about culture, unbelievable. __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

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07-10-2009, 08:58 PM	#65 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,304	MY vote was a resounding "YES"....as my mother was murdered (shot to death) in front of me and my sister.....(another post) Sometimes it takes a crime to be seen first-hand to make ur decision..... So, my vote was quite easy....no if's or butt's!

07-10-2009, 11:14 PM	#69 (permalink)
Pepsi Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,370	I do believe in the death penalty and I also believe that it should be that if someone kills another person they should die the same way.

07-11-2009, 02:27 AM	#73 (permalink)
Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,534	but reality for me to an opinion, its death penalty is a good idea comes across sensible when we realise the huge cost to soceity to run jails but then again, its not real justice since the business of incancaration is in fact Very lucarative! as it seem to serve purpose of job provisions by constricting the job pool market. it really complex as no one place is operated the same as others, (states to states/country to country). I actually sometimes think that jails are there to "prove" the need for criminal/civil/military laws while the prisoners reality may be VERY different. __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein Last edited by Grummer; 07-11-2009 at 03:16 AM.

07-11-2009, 06:11 AM	#75 (permalink)
Sosie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beantown Posts: 3,034	I voted yes!

07-11-2009, 07:07 AM	#77 (permalink)
Grummer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Batcave Posts: 9,534	lol __________________ "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

07-11-2009, 11:45 AM	#80 (permalink)
diehardbiker Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In back of Superduty Posts: 11,278	I vote against dealth penalty (Well too late for me to vote anyway). Death penalty is short-lived punishment. Most death penalty last maybe 2 minutes worth of suffering then that scumbag goes rest in peace without any suffering and pain. Whats point of death penalty? What I like see most is scumbag suffer constantly being told to do this and that and told NOT to do this and that. Also, suffering getting their rear (Censored) by other inmates, getting hurt by fights, lonely gets their heads and they get crazy, and that last for years and years and years while death penalty only 2 minutes of suffering. I would only support suffering, long and painful death if one exists, however none really exist so leaving me support lifetime prisionment. Also, no one wants to be in prision for the rest of their life, usually prefers get executed over lifetime prision. For example this scumbag, Scott Wade Smith, I would support either lifetime in ADMAX or hanging upside down by his gentils and leave him to die upside down. Not sure who he is, Google is your best friend. __________________ J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all" "If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson (1778) Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

07-11-2009, 12:28 PM	#81 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, the land of the cornfields and pigs Posts: 21,866	I heard that it costs more to have death penalty than life sentence. It was mentioned on the news last year, I think. It's due to courts, lawyers and people who want to keep him alive.

07-11-2009, 06:07 PM	#83 (permalink)
KarissaMann05 Premium Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 6,381	My POV was changed a little on death penalty. I still don't like this one so I personally oppose it, yet I reluctantly support it legal. I like to see all flaws removed in the death penalty... __________________ "Pragmatic language is a vital social skill that enables the school-aged child to navigate their way through demanding social situations." -- R. Owens

07-14-2009, 04:57 PM	#90 (permalink)
pek1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: When I survey the wondrous Cross . . . Posts: 3,996	I don't recall if I've ever said how I believe about the death penalty. I know it does deter people from doing it . . . don't believe me, ask the person being executed if he/she can do it again and the consequences will be different. Once they're put to death, that's it. Crime by them has been deterred and will never happen again. I had a second cousin who had stabbed his wife to death and he was later run over by a bus, maybe an hour later. It's too bad, but at least the case is closed. My girlfriend's mother killed her husband (my girlfriend's dad) and now they're both dead. Case closed. Each party has their reward. I agree that executions should very much be publicly made available, but not televised. Whether the execution is by hanging, chair or firing squad, it should be public. While on death row as well as waiting to be executed, the person should have at least one picture of each person they killed be in front of them at all times. Executions are "too clean" and not a deterrent to anyone except the criminal at the very end. The criminal gets to appeal their conviction and sentence almost endless times. The victim (s) didn't get this choice. The criminal gets to have their choice of last meal. The victim (s) never did. The criminal gets to say goodbye to their loved ones. The victim (s) never got that chance. The criminal gets to say any last words. The victim (s) never did. I believe that when the criminal is convicted and the death sentence given, it should be carried out at once. __________________ Pete

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