Newspapers Verses Blogs. - Page 3

Hear Again · 01-25-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

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this thread does seem a bit redundant going around and around and around with the same arguments being brought up by each side.

dreama · 01-25-2009, 11:23 PM

But at least it's all in one thread instead of taking over other threads.

You won't trust sources from Blogs.
I won't trust sources from newspapers.

So I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the matter.

Jiro · 01-25-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

But at least it's all in one thread instead of taking over other threads.

You won't trust sources from Blogs.
I won't trust sources from newspapers.

So I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the matter.

thing is - it's like saying "you won't trust the source that Earth is round and I won't trust the source that Earth is flat." One of them is very wrong. lol. it isn't the matter of opinion. it's the fact.

dreama · 01-25-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

thing is - it's like saying "you won't trust the source that Earth is round and I won't trust the source that Earth is flat." One of them is very wrong. lol. it isn't the matter of opinion. it's the fact.

I agree. The world is round and newspapers cannot be trusted. They have a major agenda to brain wash everyone into accepting the status Que. Newspapers are just as fictional as some blogs are.

So on some issues I trust the Blogs I read more.

I hardly ever read newspapers as I don't want to be brainwashed.

Jiro · 01-25-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

I agree. The world is round and newspapers cannot be trusted. They have a major agenda to brain wash everyone into accepting the status Que. Newspapers are just as fictional as some blogs are.

So on some issues I trust the Blogs I read more.

I hardly ever read newspapers as I don't want to be brainwashed.

and blogs don't brainwash you? how can you tell if some blogs are for real?

Hear Again · 01-25-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

thing is - it's like saying "you won't trust the source that Earth is round and I won't trust the source that Earth is flat." One of them is very wrong. lol. it isn't the matter of opinion. it's the fact.

exactly.

dreama · 01-25-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

and blogs don't brainwash you? how can you tell if some blogs are for real?

I can usually tell if someone is lying. I know that newspapers lie. I can imagine some blogs do too if they sound really far out I'd stop reading them. But they are written by people who feel strong about their cause.

Wheras Newspapers are just out to make money. I just DO NOT trust them. Sorry.

Hear Again · 01-25-2009, 11:42 PM

blogs are also written by people who make opinionated statements without backing them up with facts.

Jiro · 01-25-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

I can usually tell if someone is lying. I know that newspapers lie. I can imagine some blogs do too if they sound really far out I'd stop reading them. But they are written by people who feel strong about their cause.

Wheras Newspapers are just out to make money. I just DO NOT trust them. Sorry.

how are newspaper supposed to pay for reporters, equipments, papers, etc? I have another question - what about blogs that have trustworthy strong opinion that are opposite to your cause? do you conveniently ignore it?

Hear Again · 01-25-2009, 11:44 PM

with the proliferation of newspapers being available online, their focus is no longer to make money via their subscriptions -- it is to gain readers via the internet.

dreama · 01-25-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

how are newspaper supposed to pay for reporters, equipments, papers, etc? I have another question - what about blogs that have trustworthy strong opinion that are opposite to your cause? do you conveniently ignore it?

Do you?

Hear Again · 01-25-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

Do you?

newspapers are less biased than blogs.

Jiro · 01-26-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dreama

Do you?

not at all. that's why I have a balanced view and I lean on what I agree with that coincides with American way - personal choice without interference.

so.. do you?

Hear Again · 01-26-2009, 10:28 AM

even though my political views tend to be more on the moderate side, it does not mean that i don't read conservative newspapers and magazines. evaluating both sides of the story helps me get a better understanding about what the other side is thinking so that i can make a more informed decision about the issues that concern me.

Banjo · 01-26-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

newspapers are less biased than blogs.

I work with newspapers for a living. My advice is to take everything with a grain of salt. Never at face value. I can tell you without hesitation that there are inaccurate facts, inconsistencies and more in nearly every article that is printed in the paper and on the internet.

Too often have I seen stories reported where buildings are being blown up when they aren't. Reporting people to be dead when they aren't. The list goes and on and this occur in pretty much every paper around the world as far I am concerned.

Now, about bloggers. Well, they are more similar to columnists than they are as journalists. If they offer opinions of their own, they are just like the columnists. Very, very few bloggers practice the ethics of journalism.

lsfoster · 01-27-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

I work with newspapers for a living. My advice is to take everything with a grain of salt. Never at face value. I can tell you without hesitation that there are inaccurate facts, inconsistencies and more in nearly every article that is printed in the paper and on the internet.

Too often have I seen stories reported where buildings are being blown up when they aren't. Reporting people to be dead when they aren't. The list goes and on and this occur in pretty much every paper around the world as far I am concerned.

Now, about bloggers. Well, they are more similar to columnists than they are as journalists. If they offer opinions of their own, they are just like the columnists. Very, very few bloggers practice the ethics of journalism.

I'll agree with you that newspapers make mistakes. Everyone does. But the examples you are giving are not examples of journalists being biased. And even though that does happen too, I think that the last sentence of your post is the most important. There are standards that journalists are held to that bloggers aren't.

Jiro · 01-27-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lsfoster

I'll agree with you that newspapers make mistakes. Everyone does. But the examples you are giving are not examples of journalists being biased. And even though that does happen too, I think that the last sentence of your post is the most important. There are standards that journalists are held to that bloggers aren't.

and when newspapers make mistakes - they publish the corrections. I doubt most bloggers do that.

Hear Again · 01-27-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Very, very few bloggers practice the ethics of journalism.

...and that's the main problem i have with blogs.

Hear Again · 01-27-2009, 02:11 PM

another distinction between newspapers and blogs: bloggers can get away with saying anything they want. journalists can't.

Banjo · 01-27-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

another distinction between newspapers and blogs: bloggers can get away with saying anything they want. journalists can't.

If you think journalists are usually held accountable for their bias and mistakes, you're in for a big surprise.

Hear Again · 01-27-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

If you think journalists are usually held accountable for their bias and mistakes, you're in for a big surprise.

they're held to a higher standard than bloggers are.

besides, bloggers don't lose their "job" for posting erroneous or inflammatory information.

Banjo · 01-27-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

they're held to a higher standard than bloggers are.

besides, bloggers don't lose their "job" for posting erroneous or inflammatory information.

Technically, yes. However, they do get away with it most of the times because they go unnoticed. I can tell you without hesitation that there are plenty of articles being published everyday where at least 90% of the story itself is inaccurate and nobody would even notice it nor make a noise over it.

The bloggers can and do get sued for defamation sometimes.

Hear Again · 01-27-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

The bloggers can and do get sued for defamation sometimes.

bloggers get sued for defamation of character far less than journalists lose their jobs. i studied journalism at my university for 3 years under professional instruction by those who have had experience in the field of journalism, so i'm quite familiar with the history and general concensus as far as credibility, ethics and punishment are concerned.

Banjo · 01-27-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

bloggers get sued for defamation of character far less than journalists lose their jobs. i studied journalism at my university for 3 years under professional instruction by those who have had experience in the field of journalism, so i'm quite familiar with the history and general concensus as far as credibility, ethics and punishment are concerned.

You studied in journalism. It's not the same as working in journalism. Like I said, you're in for a big surprise. The real world is a whole different place than the college/university world. It's a dog eat dog world.

In university and college settings, rules are rules. Right? Do you think they are applied the same way to the real world?

Like I said, you'll be surprised.

Hear Again · 01-27-2009, 05:03 PM

so you think the fact that i studied journalism for 3 years means i have no understanding of the way the real world works when it comes to the media? if so, i'm afraid you are sadly mistaken.

Banjo · 01-27-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

so you think the fact that i studied journalism for 3 years means i have no understanding of the way the real world works when it comes to the media? if so, i'm afraid you are sadly mistaken.

Okay, keep yourself in denial if you want to.

jillio · 01-27-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

and blogs don't brainwash you? how can you tell if some blogs are for real?

Here's the difference. ALL blogs have an agenda. SOME newspapers have an agenda. But if I want factual, realistic information, I am not going to use a blog. Talk about brainwashing.

Hear Again · 01-27-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Okay, keep yourself in denial if you want to.

i am not in denial, banjo.

Hear Again · 01-27-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Here's the difference. ALL blogs have an agenda. SOME newspapers have an agenda. But if I want factual, realistic information, I am not going to use a blog. Talk about brainwashing.

exactly.

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Hear Again Each day is a gift. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,067 Blog Entries: 6	even though my political views tend to be more on the moderate side, it does not mean that i don't read conservative newspapers and magazines. evaluating both sides of the story helps me get a better understanding about what the other side is thinking so that i can make a more informed decision about the issues that concern me. __________________ Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE (Implanted: 12/22/04 \| Activated: 1/18/05) Right ear - Nucleus Freedom (Implanted: 2/1/06 \| Activated: 3/1/06) Deafblind/Postlingual

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01-27-2009, 05:03 PM	#85 (permalink)
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