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Unread 10-21-2008, 11:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sarah Palin signing ILY - cool

Sarah was in Henderson, Nevada (10/21/2008).
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Unread 10-22-2008, 12:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Really nice of her
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Unread 10-22-2008, 12:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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what does ILY mean?
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Unread 10-22-2008, 12:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ILY = I Love You.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 12:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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hey i love you too. so what's ILY?
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Unread 10-22-2008, 03:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh nice but won't vote her due disagree with most of her views.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 06:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Unread 10-22-2008, 06:32 AM   #8 (permalink)
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hey i love you too. So what's ily?
i l y - i lust you.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 06:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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What's her other hand saying?
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Unread 10-22-2008, 06:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Jiro, I think you know?

Haha, Wokamuka - don't even think about it.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 08:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Unread 10-22-2008, 09:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That's cool! That's nice of her! Where is Obama's sign ILY??
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Unread 10-22-2008, 09:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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i l y - i lust you.
hey me lub yoo rong time too. so what's ILY? why won't people give me straight answer, dammit?
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Unread 10-22-2008, 09:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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She knows one sign....who cares? It doesn't mean she is qualified to have our vote now does it?
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Unread 10-22-2008, 09:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
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That's cool! That's nice of her! Where is Obama's sign ILY??
Well, he had 4 terps at the rally I attended. That way the deaf members of the audience were actually able to understand everything he had to say rather than to be patronized by a publicity stunt of a woman using one sign she was taught just before using it.

My question would be not why Obama didn't sign ILY, but where were Palin's terps?
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ouch. that's gonna leave a mark. good comeback
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Unread 10-22-2008, 09:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
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ouch. that's gonna leave a mark. good comeback
Thank you, sir! My point is that Obama has actually addressed the needs of the deaf community by having terps at his rallies. Palin has engaged in a publicity gimmick, but has shown no true concern for the deaf community. I find her use of the ILY sign patronizing and insulting. Its as if she believes the public, and in particular, the deaf/Deaf public are so shallow as to be unable to see that her learning one sign does not make up for the fact that she had not done anything to faccilitate true communication. To me, it is as distateful as holding her son with Down's Syndrome up as a way to garner votes from parents with disabled children.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 10:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Thank you, sir! My point is that Obama has actually addressed the needs of the deaf community by having terps at his rallies. Palin has engaged in a publicity gimmick, but has shown no true concern for the deaf community. I find her use of the ILY sign patronizing and insulting. Its as if she believes the public, and in particular, the deaf/Deaf public are so shallow as to be unable to see that her learning one sign does not make up for the fact that she had not done anything to faccilitate true communication. To me, it is as distateful as holding her son with Down's Syndrome up as a way to garner votes from parents with disabled children.
Hehe. Obama did have terps WAY back in March 2007 when I attended a rally of his. I wouldn't say that doing ILY sign in general is bad if you don't know ASL. But come on...

It's Sarah Palin. And who the hell is she saying ILY to?! Think about it, if she verbally yelled out "I LOVE YOU!!!", aren't you gonna be like wtf? It seems to be a concert thing to me: "I LOVE YOU, NASHVILLE!" or "I LOVE YOU, NICK JONAS!"
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Unread 10-22-2008, 10:17 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Hehe. Obama did have terps WAY back in March 2007 when I attended a rally of his. I wouldn't say that doing ILY sign in general is bad if you don't know ASL. But come on...

It's Sarah Palin. And who the hell is she saying ILY to?! Think about it, if she verbally yelled out "I LOVE YOU!!!", aren't you gonna be like wtf? It seems to be a concert thing to me: "I LOVE YOU, NASHVILLE!" or "I LOVE YOU, NICK JONAS!"
Such is her mentality!
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... where were Palin's terps?
Do you mean there were no terps at Palin's event?
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in 1992 and 2000, many HOH complained about the use of terps at campaign events. Both the conventions have cc on their display at the back of the halls.
Go McCain/Palin. Obama and Biden have no families members with disabilities. They won't identified with us.

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hey i love you too. so what's ILY?
I loathe you!
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Thing you need to learn...

ILY signal - casual
I love you (in full sign by word and word) - sweetheart

I learn it from ASL instructor, really interest to tell two different between.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 11:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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ILY signal - casual
I love you (in full sign by word and word) - sweetheart

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well i love you sweetheart too. so ILY signal means casual? I don't follow. Why is she saying "CASUAL" to audience?
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Well, he had 4 terps at the rally I attended. That way the deaf members of the audience were actually able to understand everything he had to say rather than to be patronized by a publicity stunt of a woman using one sign she was taught just before using it.

My question would be not why Obama didn't sign ILY, but where were Palin's terps?
How about the lack of access for ASL interpreters who could not hear Obama's speech at Democratic National Convention in Denver?

http://deafrepublicans2008.blogspot....sl-access.html

Shoshannah Stern confirmed it in her blog. her blog link is in Mike McConnell's blog article.

DEAF REPUBLICANS: Code Pinko Confirms Deaf Interpreter at RNC
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ILY has become universal. It has often been used by concert goers, politicians, entertainers, and likewise.
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ILY has become universal. It has often been used by concert goers, politicians, entertainers, and likewise.
A) Concert Goers
B) Politicians
C) Entertainers

Which does not belong?
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Don't forget to add, D--normal every day folks. Ever since this sign was invented, hundreds of thousands of people of all walks of life have used it---to what extent they did afterwards doesn't matter; the deaf world gets tickled pink that it is used--good exposure. But it is wrong just because somebody named Sarah Palin used it? Yeah, right.....
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Don't forget to add, D--normal every day folks. Ever since this sign was invented, hundreds of thousands of people of all walks of life have used it---to what extent they did afterwards doesn't matter; the deaf world gets tickled pink that it is used--good exposure. But it is wrong just because somebody named Sarah Palin used it? Yeah, right.....
Yes, every day folks use it IN CONTEXT. I don't go around in the halls holding up the ILY sign for no reason. I find no difference in this and her bringing up her African American friend up with her in the stands for no reason.

"See? See? I'm friends with the bla... uhh African Americans!"

Let's ignore intent for the moment. As for exposure, I really have no idea how much of an impact the ILY sign would make on hearing/deaf people. So if you think this generates a positive reinforcement towards deaf people, great, but that doesn't change my suspicions on why she'd use ILY sign in the first place.
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Yes, every day folks use it IN CONTEXT. I don't go around in the halls holding up the ILY sign for no reason. I find no difference in this and her bringing up her African American friend up with her in the stands for no reason.

"See? See? I'm friends with the bla... uhh African Americans!"

Let's ignore intent for the moment. As for exposure, I really have no idea how much of an impact the ILY sign would make on hearing/deaf people. So if you think this generates a positive reinforcement towards deaf people, great, but that doesn't change my suspicions on why she'd use ILY sign in the first place.
I wouldn't venture to guess but if it is for political reasons, so what and speaking of context, the sign spans the spectrum. Obama has done that same exact thing, too, so....
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