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Old 08-23-2008, 05:48 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Hey now, There's no need to refute on each other. If you guys don't have anything sensible to say to each other, please refrain from doing it.

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Old 08-23-2008, 08:40 PM   #92 (permalink)
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oh you need a source for that too? it's John McCain's quote. Please do not solely blame Bush Administration for rise of foreclosure rates. It's the borrowers who were reckless and foolish to get risky/excessive loans. they bit more than they can chew
Oh, I see...its the borrower's fault. And I suppose the depression was the fault of the unemployed, too.
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Old 08-23-2008, 09:58 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I have to admit--I am still a little un-decided on who to vote for this upcoming election as I am now waiting for McCain to choose for VP.

Anyway I got this message in an email and wanted to pass it on to you folks as I thought it was

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Not knowing how many homes you have is elitist. (Their holdings actually equal 11 separate residential dwellings not 7)

Not knowing how many servants you employee is elitist. ($250,000 per year spent on servants)

Consistently voting for laws that benefit the upper 5% is elitist. (Charles Keating)

Claiming you've only reached status of rich when you hit $5 million is elitist.

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Old 08-24-2008, 01:58 AM   #94 (permalink)
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Oh, I see...its the borrower's fault. And I suppose the depression was the fault of the unemployed, too.
depression? we ain't in depression, silly. you're in wrong century.
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:59 AM   #95 (permalink)
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give Obama 10 years... he'll be making millions and doing same thing like all politicians. several houses... several servants... they're all the same. Obama ain't no goddamn saint.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:32 AM   #96 (permalink)
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It's the title of a book. It's not a presidential candidate.
Of course I know "The Lazy Millionarie" is the title of a book. Donīt you read that I use both comma before type the title of a book "The Lazy Millionarie " ?
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:38 AM   #97 (permalink)
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give Obama 10 years... he'll be making millions and doing same thing like all politicians. several houses... several servants... they're all the same. Obama ain't no goddamn saint.
Do you have the problem with anyone who make millionaries themselves?


I see why not if anyone work hard to make profit themelves into successful business owner or whatever with their OWN good talent...

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Old 08-24-2008, 06:27 AM   #98 (permalink)
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give Obama 10 years... he'll be making millions and doing same thing like all politicians. several houses... several servants... they're all the same. Obama ain't no goddamn saint.
you fucking got that one right
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:57 AM   #99 (permalink)
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I have to admit--I am still a little un-decided on who to vote for this upcoming election as I am now waiting for McCain to choose for VP.

Anyway I got this message in an email and wanted to pass it on to you folks as I thought it was


Thanks for sharing that, Byrdie!
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:04 AM   #100 (permalink)
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depression? we ain't in depression, silly. you're in wrong century.
Did you notice the word "was" in my original, post? That means my reference to the depression was the past tense. Past tense indicates something that has happened prior, not something that is happening currently. To make it clear, I was drawing a parallel between your blame of the victims in the current situation of foreclosure, and a blame of the victims for creating the Great Depression of last century. In addition, the second sentence was one of a sarcastic nature. Really, jiro, you simply need to take a bit more time when reading, and not take everything at surface value. There are subtle meanings and implications that you continually miss. Perhaps the failure to look deeper than what you see on the surface is the reason that you continue to come up with such innane and shallow explanations and solutions.
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:05 AM   #101 (permalink)
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give Obama 10 years... he'll be making millions and doing same thing like all politicians. several houses... several servants... they're all the same. Obama ain't no goddamn saint.
And exactly who claimed that he was?
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Old 08-24-2008, 10:15 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Danny Westneat of the Seattle Times couldn't have said it any better.

Danny Westneat | Let's fight over things that matter | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:30 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Danny Westneat of the Seattle Times couldn't have said it any better.

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Excellent editorial. Thanks again, Byrdie!
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Old 08-24-2008, 12:19 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Excellent editorial. Thanks again, Byrdie!
Your welcome! By the way, did you know that Danny Westneat is also from Ohio?
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:09 PM   #105 (permalink)
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And exactly who claimed that he was?
not a claim. but you and Liebling glorified him as a saint and that he will bring "change." you simply need to take a bit more time when reading, and not take everything at surface value. There are subtle meanings and implications that you continually miss. Perhaps the failure to look deeper than what you see on the surface is the reason that you continue to come up with such innane and shallow explanations and solutions.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:12 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Danny Westneat of the Seattle Times couldn't have said it any better.

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a good read. very good one!
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:22 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Danny Westneat of the Seattle Times couldn't have said it any better.

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Truth has spoken. Excellent Editorial to read.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:28 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Did you notice the word "was" in my original, post? That means my reference to the depression was the past tense. Past tense indicates something that has happened prior, not something that is happening currently. To make it clear, I was drawing a parallel between your blame of the victims in the current situation of foreclosure, and a blame of the victims for creating the Great Depression of last century. In addition, the second sentence was one of a sarcastic nature. Really, jiro, you simply need to take a bit more time when reading, and not take everything at surface value. There are subtle meanings and implications that you continually miss. Perhaps the failure to look deeper than what you see on the surface is the reason that you continue to come up with such innane and shallow explanations and solutions.
oooohhh i'm very aware of it. perhaps you failed to understand my post in a subtle sarcastic nature. You should take a time off and clear your head for the moment so that you don't take everything at surface value. Perhaps the failure to think ahead with clarity and logical to make a difficult decision that sacrifices some & some is the reason that you continue to come up with such fallacious, impossible explanations and solutions where it works in a controlled, well-funded environment.... probably why you're still working on ph.d.... if you are actually a ph.d candidate IRL. As far as I'm concerned - you could be an average Jane who reads one too many shrink books. gotta love the anonymity of internet.

you fail to remember that we're all free to share our POV. no one's POV is more right than others. We can disagree or agree but you cannot squash them and claim that yours is supremely right. Please respect the AD rules

btw - you mentioned depression in the subject of mass foreclosures. I have to point out that:
1. depression was government's fault... obviously
2. this mass foreclosure is not largely government's fault
3. this mass foreclosures are mainly people's faults for not making sound judgement.
4. just because government made regulations easier to loan money does not mean it's a great gimmick. People should have be very careful of it.
5. corporations got greedy and reckless
6. <slap their hands out of cookie jar> no such thing as cheap 1-cent cookie
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Old 08-24-2008, 04:13 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Your welcome! By the way, did you know that Danny Westneat is also from Ohio?
I'd heard that!
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oooohhh i'm very aware of it. perhaps you failed to understand my post in a subtle sarcastic nature. You should take a time off and clear your head for the moment so that you don't take everything at surface value. Perhaps the failure to think ahead with clarity and logical to make a difficult decision that sacrifices some & some is the reason that you continue to come up with such fallacious, impossible explanations and solutions where it works in a controlled, well-funded environment.... probably why you're still working on ph.d.... if you are actually a ph.d candidate IRL. As far as I'm concerned - you could be an average Jane who reads one too many shrink books. gotta love the anonymity of internet.

Ever heard of the term "run on sentence"? They don't make any sense. Yours is consistent with that.

Frankly, I'm not too terribly concerned regarding your assessment. Why is it you keep mentioning my Ph.D. candidacy? Jealous?

Remember that Chinese Proverb I related to you several days ago? You continue to make it true.
you fail to remember that we're all free to share our POV. no one's POV is more right than others. We can disagree or agree but you cannot squash them and claim that yours is supremely right. Please respect the AD rules

I'm not violating any rules.

btw - you mentioned depression in the subject of mass foreclosures. I have to point out that:
1. depression was government's fault... obviously
2. this mass foreclosure is not largely government's fault
3. this mass foreclosures are mainly people's faults for not making sound judgement.
4. just because government made regulations easier to loan money does not mean it's a great gimmick. People should have be very careful of it.
5. corporations got greedy and reckless
6. <slap their hands out of cookie jar> no such thing as cheap 1-cent cookie
There you go. Blaming the foreclosures on the individuals rather than placing the blame where it belongs.
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Old 08-24-2008, 04:22 PM   #111 (permalink)
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There you go. Blaming the foreclosures on the individuals rather than placing the blame where it belongs.
and why are you misplacing blame on government? They didn't make or force people to take loans, didn't they? If the people knew anything about personal responsibility... we wouldn't be in this mess
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and why are you misplacing blame on government? They didn't make or force people to take loans, didn't they? If the people knew anything about personal responsibility... we wouldn't be in this mess
You really are a piece of work!

Thank God you only get one vote!
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Update ( Obama's 2007 income tax return shows $4 million income. Who is in touch? Debate Wednesday night on ABC. - Lynn Sweet )

CHICAGO, IL—Senator Obama today released his 2007 tax return and posted it to his campaign web site, continuing his commitment to running a transparent campaign and a transparent administration as President.

The Obamas’ 2007 federal tax return is available HERE.

The 2007 return at a glance

o Total income: $4,238,165

o Adjusted gross income: $4,139,965

o Salaried income: $260,735

o Net profit from books: $3,943,378

o Federal taxes paid: $1,396,772

o Total charitable contributions for 2007: $240,370
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Old 08-24-2008, 05:53 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Danny Westneat of the Seattle Times couldn't have said it any better.

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This is an interesting piece and has put a lot of perspective into this. As proactive as this article is, It has brought out a lot of points for both candidates.
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This is an interesting piece and has put a lot of perspective into this. As proactive as this article is, It has brought out a lot of points for both candidates.
Agreed. I was impressed with the lack of bias.
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Agreed. I was impressed with the lack of bias.
That's Danny Westneat for ya! I always look forward to his column in the Seattle Times as he puts things in perspective.
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I'm not a management "expert" but what does that have to do with being a Christian???
Especially when you pointed Bill Clinton and his adultery in the past debate while here no one say anything about Mc Cain's present committ adultery to his second wife.
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