conservative vs liberal

Liebling:-))) · 08-08-2008, 11:51 AM

Those links help you to find yourself which conservative or liberal, you are.

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs

Conservative vs. Liberal

I vote liberal because I am on most liberal´s side than convseration.

Come and discuss...

Liebling:-))) · 08-08-2008, 12:04 PM

I pasted some from links from liberal´s side over here why I´m disagree......

Abortion:

I disagree with partial-birth abortion because women should decide to remove a fetus under 12 weeks if they know they are unable to take responsible to raise a child. I´m for partial-birth abortion (not cut fetus into piece but operation or deliver fetus with the help from drugs) if fetus is dead or mother life-threatening.)

Gun control

I support gun control with high restriction, not banned.

Jiro · 08-08-2008, 12:06 PM

hey good thread, Liebling!! As mentioned before in other thread - I'm a Centrist because I like half of Conservative views and other half of Liberal views. I believe in limited small government and more to personal responsibility. For Liberal view - I believe in equality and equal opportunity and we should take care of underprivileged people.

The list is long but I think most of you know where I stand and what my views are.

Byrdie714 · 08-08-2008, 12:09 PM

You need to adjust the poll before I vote.

There is a difference between conservation and conservative!

Bottesini · 08-08-2008, 12:09 PM

I voted other. My opinions are a mix. Of some things I am liberal and others conservative.

Liebling:-))) · 08-08-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiro123

hey good thread, Liebling!! As mentioned before in other thread - I'm a Centrist because I like half of Conservative views and other half of Liberal views. I believe in limited small government and more to personal responsibility. For Liberal view - I believe in equality and equal opportunity and we should take care of underprivileged people.

The list is long but I think most of you know where I stand and what my views are.

for like my thread...

I see why not to find out pros and cons over liberal and convservative.

If you say that you are 50% conservative and 50% liberal then vote "Other".

Jiro · 08-08-2008, 12:11 PM

Should adjust the poll to - Liberal | Conservative | Centrism | None (a sheep)

Liebling:-))) · 08-08-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byrdie714

You need to adjust the poll before I vote.

There is a difference between conservation and conservative!

for get my attention.

Moderator, could you please correct my misspelling in poll... it should be conservative, not conservation...

Liebling:-))) · 08-08-2008, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I voted other. My opinions are a mix. Of some things I am liberal and others conservative.

which most? or 50%/50%?

Liebling:-))) · 08-08-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiro123

Should adjust the poll to - Liberal | Conservative | Centrism | None (a sheep)

Òkay,

Moderator, could you please add Centrism to this and also change conservation to conservative as well...

Bottesini · 08-08-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

which most? or 50%/50%?

Probably most liberal.

My conservative side comes out because of my fear of terrorists. (sorry if it isn't rational, I can't help it)

Oceanbreeze · 08-08-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I voted other. My opinions are a mix. Of some things I am liberal and others conservative.

I feel the same way. For the most part, I'm a liberal. However, there are a few areas in which I'm more conservative.

I voted other

jillio · 08-08-2008, 12:18 PM

he,he,he.....guess which I voted for!

Liebling:-))) · 08-08-2008, 12:19 PM

Like what I say that I am more liberal than conservative which mean is more than 50% liberal then vote...

If you are more liberal than 50% then vote liberal
If you are more conservative than 50% then vote conservative
If you are 50% liberal and 50% convservative then vote "Other"

Jiro · 08-08-2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

If you are more liberal than 50% then vote liberal
If you are more conservative than 50% then vote conservative
If you are 50% liberal and 50% convservative then vote "Other"

good clarification. I picked other

PuyoPiyo · 08-08-2008, 12:22 PM

I am very liberal here. And thank you for good thread!

I have to go to my temporary work right now, I will type more information when I get back tonight.

Bottesini · 08-08-2008, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Like what I say that I am more liberal than conservative which mean is more than 50% liberal then vote...

If you are more liberal than 50% then vote liberal
If you are more conservative than 50% then vote conservative
If you are 50% liberal and 50% convservative then vote "Other"

Too late! I am more than 50% liberal but I voted other. A conservative must make up my error by voting other also.

***~SG~*** · 08-08-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Òkay,

Moderator, could you please add Centrism to this and also change conservation to conservative as well...

Done, I leave "other" as it already got votes in there unless you want this one to be removed. Let me know.

jillio · 08-08-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

Too late! I am more than 50% liberal but I voted other. A conservative must make up my error by voting other also.

A conservatist denying their conservatism? Never gonna happen!

Oceanbreeze · 08-08-2008, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

he,he,he.....guess which I voted for!

If I guess right, do I get a prize?

jillio · 08-08-2008, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze

If I guess right, do I get a prize?

Yep, my undying friendship.

Oceanbreeze · 08-08-2008, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Yep, my undying friendship.

I have that already!

But, I'll play along.. say ...

LIBERAL!

PuyoPiyo · 08-08-2008, 02:15 PM

My temporary hour delayed so I have some of spare times, so here's my critic against the Conservative.

Abortion

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Human life begins at conception. Abortion is the murder of a human being. Nobody has the right to murder a human being.

Support legislation to prohibit partial birth abortions, called the "Partial Birth Abortion Ban" (partial birth abortion - the killing of an unborn baby of at least 20 weeks by pulling it out of the birth canal with forceps, but leaving the head inside. An incision is made in the back of the baby's neck and the brain tissue is suctioned out. The head is then removed from the uterus.)

Well I do believe it is a murder to abort, but still doesn't think it's a good idea to illegalize the abortion because it could cause mother to kill newborn children instead.

Affirmative action

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People should be admitted to schools and hired for jobs based on their ability. It is unfair to use race as a factor in the selection process. Reverse-discrimination is not a solution for racism.

I disagree, sorry to be blunt to the parents, but I would never think the schools as requirement. I would consider the schools as a business just like other treatments. It's not fair to force poor parents living on the farm to send their children to school, which that need their children to help them with the farming. It's not really our business if they need the school are not.

Death Penalty

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The death penalty is a punishment that fits the crime; it is neither ‘cruel' nor ‘unusual'. Executing a murderer is the appropriate punishment for taking an innocent life.

Death penalty solve nothing, but looking for an revenge, which are the illegal violence just like the public.

Economy

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The free market system, competitive capitalism, and private enterprise afford the widest opportunity and the highest standard of living for all. Free markets produce more economic growth, more jobs and higher standards of living than those systems burdened by excessive government regulation.

Then I wonder why so many big business shut down?

Education - school vouchers

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School vouchers will give all parents the right to choose good schools for their children, not just those who can afford private schools. Parents (who pay the taxes that fund the schools) should decide how and where to educate their child.

Only if parents decide to let the government to take their children to school.

the Environment

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Desire clean water, clean air and a clean planet, just like everyone else. However, extreme environmental policies destroy jobs and damage the economy.

Changes in global temperatures are natural over long periods of time. So far, science has not shown that humans can affect permanent change to the earth's temperature.

We can't just sit and do nothing, also I know there's a lot of ways to reduce the environment damages.

Gun control

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The Second Amendment gives the individual the right to keep and bear arms. Gun control laws do not thwart criminals. You have a right to defend yourself against criminals. More guns mean less crime.

Guns does not reduce the crimes, but giving them the powers to continue the crimes. However, that doesn't mean that the gun have to be banned. They only need to be more controlled and security.

Health care

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Free healthcare provided by the government (socialized medicine) means that everyone will get the same poor-quality healthcare. The rich will continue to pay for superior healthcare, while all others will receive poor-quality free healthcare from the government. Health care should remain privatized.
Support Healthcare Spending Accounts.

That is not fair for the rich people to pay for others while others doesn't.

Homeland security

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Wary of parts of the Patriot Act

I am neutral to this because I didn't read about the Patriot Act.

Immigration

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Support legal immigration at current numbers, but do not support illegal immigration. Government should enforce immigration laws. Oppose President Bush's amnesty plan for illegal immigrants. Those who break the law by entering the U.S. illegally should not have the same rights as those who obey the law by entering legally.

If there were a decrease in cheap, illegal immigrant labor, employers would have to substitute higher-priced domestic employees, legal immigrants, or perhaps increase mechanization.

I could agree with this.

Religion

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The phrase "separation of church and state" is not in the Constitution. The First Amendment to the Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." This prevents the government from establishing a national church. However, it does not prevent God from being acknowledged in schools and government buildings.

Oppose the removal of symbols of Christian heritage from public and government spaces.

Government should not interfere with religion and religious freedom.

If this is true that they don't have the religion involvement in their government, they made one mistake. They should remove God from any of the government's kinds.

Same-sex marriage

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Marriage is between one man and one woman.

Opinions differ on support for the creation of a constitutional amendment establishing marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

Believe that requiring citizens to sanction same-sex relationships violates moral and religious beliefs of millions of Christians, Jews, Muslims and others who believe marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

Oh my god, again you are making other mistake! You said that you don't have the religion involvement in any of government's kinds?

Social Security

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The current Social Security system is in serious financial trouble. Changes are necessary because the U.S. will be unable to maintain the current system it in the future. Support proposal to allow a portion of Social Security dollars withheld to be put into an account chosen by the individual, not the government.

Well the governments should help people to get jobs, not just supporting them.

Taxes

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Support lower taxes and a smaller government. Lower taxes create more incentive for people to work, save, invest, and engage in entrepreneurial endeavors. Money is best spent by those who earn it.

I would agree with this.

United Nations (UN)

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The UN has repeatedly failed in its essential mission: to preserve world peace. The wars, genocide and human rights abuses of the majority of its member states (and the UN's failure to stop them) prove this point. History shows that the United States, not the UN, is the global force for spreading freedom, prosperity, tolerance and peace. The U.S. should never subvert its national interests to those of the UN.

I disagree with this, we cannot force people to be free!

War in Iraq

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This was a preemptive strike to protect the U.S. All intelligence indicated that Saddam Hussein possessed and used weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in the past and was prepared to use them again. He would not allow United Nations weapons inspectors to confirm his claim that he had destroyed his WMDs.

A democracy can succeed in Iraq if the people are given the opportunity to create one. All people want to live in freedom.

Again, we cannot force people to be free!

War on terror/terrorism

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The world toward which the Militant Islamists strive cannot peacefully co-exist with the Western world. In the last decade, Militant Islamists have repeatedly attacked Americans and American interests here and abroad. The terrorists must be stopped and destroyed.

Wow, I thought all of this war was because of 9/11, not the religion?

Welfare

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Oppose long-term welfare. We need to provide opportunities to make it possible for poor and low-income workers to become self-reliant. It is far more compassionate and effective to encourage a person to become self-reliant, rather than keeping them dependent on the government for money.

This is not so bad, but how about.. paying to help them to find a job?

View Poll Results: Are you
liberal?	7	23.33%
conservative?	9	30.00%
Other?	7	23.33%
Centrism?	5	16.67%
None?	2	6.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

08-08-2008, 11:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) My 3 darling princesses Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 27,054	conservative vs liberal Those links help you to find yourself which conservative or liberal, you are. Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs Conservative vs. Liberal I vote liberal because I am on most liberal´s side than convseration. Come and discuss... __________________

08-08-2008, 12:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) My 3 darling princesses Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 27,054	I pasted some from links from liberal´s side over here why I´m disagree...... Abortion: I disagree with partial-birth abortion because women should decide to remove a fetus under 12 weeks if they know they are unable to take responsible to raise a child. I´m for partial-birth abortion (not cut fetus into piece but operation or deliver fetus with the help from drugs) if fetus is dead or mother life-threatening.) Gun control I support gun control with high restriction, not banned. __________________

08-08-2008, 12:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
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08-08-2008, 12:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
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08-08-2008, 12:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 7,566	hey good thread, Liebling!! As mentioned before in other thread - I'm a Centrist because I like half of Conservative views and other half of Liberal views. I believe in limited small government and more to personal responsibility. For Liberal view - I believe in equality and equal opportunity and we should take care of underprivileged people. The list is long but I think most of you know where I stand and what my views are.

08-08-2008, 12:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pacific County, Washington Posts: 5,163	You need to adjust the poll before I vote. There is a difference between conservation and conservative!

08-08-2008, 12:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 7,566	Should adjust the poll to - Liberal \| Conservative \| Centrism \| None (a sheep)

08-08-2008, 12:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,197	he,he,he.....guess which I voted for!

08-08-2008, 12:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
PuyoPiyo My Property!! >:( Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fourth Plain Village WA Posts: 5,182	I am very liberal here. And thank you for good thread! I have to go to my temporary work right now, I will type more information when I get back tonight. __________________ Note: Not credit by myself.