Obama supporters?

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 05:07 PM

How many folks here are supporters of Barack Obama?

I will be voting for Barack Obama in November. I feel he's the best candidate for the job right now. I do not want 4 more years of George Bush's policies! I want the troops to come home and I want to see more emphasis on alternative energies.

If you are not a supporter, please do not post here! Make your own thread for bashing!

Liebling:-))) · 08-04-2008, 05:14 PM

I am an European and live in Germany, can´t vote US election but Obama have my full support.

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 05:29 PM

That's cool.

I don't have a problem with that. I remember reading in another thread that there's another user here who thinks that supporting Obama is Anti-American.

Let me tell you something, supporting John McCain is supporting 4 more years of George W.Bush's policies!

And you know how screwed people are after 8 years of Bush. Why would anyone want that AGAIN for ANOTHER 4 years?

jillio · 08-04-2008, 05:31 PM

Obama supporter here.

Aleser · 08-04-2008, 05:35 PM

Me too.

Byrdie714 · 08-04-2008, 07:19 PM

Still undecided.

Tousi · 08-04-2008, 07:31 PM

Not voting for Obama....

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Not voting for Obama....

Then don't post here.

Tousi · 08-04-2008, 07:41 PM

I don't like either candidate but I consider McCain the lesser of two evils.

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

I don't like either candidate but I consider McCain the lesser of two evils.

McCain is ignorant, sexist and racist.

How could he possibly be the lesser of any evil?

Tousi · 08-04-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

McCain is ignorant, sexist and racist.

How could he possibly be the lesser of any evil?

Because you are not going to get me on moralistic grounds as it relates to these two; McCain's the better of the two to lead this country and I say this begrudgingly so don't be so defensive.

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Because you are not going to get me on moralistic grounds as it relates to these two; McCain's the better of the two to lead this country and I say this begrudgingly so don't be so defensive.

Then your judgment is just plain clouded.

Aleser · 08-04-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

Then your judgment is just plain clouded.

Brad, don't start a thread for the purpose of saying "I am right, and if you say otherewise, I'll attack you and tell you that you have no right to defend yourself"

He can vote for santa for all he wants- that doesn't make his 'judgment clouded'

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aleser

Brad, don't start a thread for the purpose of saying "I am right, and if you say otherewise, I'll attack you and tell you that you have no right to defend yourself"

He can vote for santa for all he wants- that doesn't make his 'judgment clouded'

Nothing wrong with questioning the reasoning behind things.

Let's just leave the opinions where they are and move on.

Jiro · 08-04-2008, 09:09 PM

I am confused.... I don't like both Obama and McCain. Originally - I liked Obama but.... here's what my journalist friend wrote - outstanding article....

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The first time I witnessed Barack Obama speak was at the Democratic National Convention in 2004. As I listened to him tell the story of the unusual path he took to that podium, I thought to myself, as many did, "That man could be president if he wants it."

Here we are, just four years later and Mr. Obama has done the unthinkable. Just 54 years after Brown v. Board of Education, a black man is vying for the presidency of the United States, a breaching of the racial glass ceiling unmatched in magnitude.

When the Presidential Primaries began, Hillary Clinton was the odds-on favorite. Her campaign worked tirelessly to establish the much-coveted "aura of inevitability." As the field narrowed, Obama's charisma and infectious optimism took a foothold among the youth of America, casting doubts about what once seemed all but a sure thing for Senator Clinton. The tide turned in April, 2007 when the Obama campaign announced it had for the first time surpassed Clinton's quarterly fund-raising total.

Obama revolutionized grassroots fund-raising, continually raising more money than his opponent with mostly small donations. The Obama fund-raising machine was a force of nature, the campaign said 90 percent of his contributions were under $100. On the strength of mostly small donations, Obama successfully became the most successful presidential fund-raiser in history.

Despite Obama's surge in popularity and national recognition, Clinton was no quitter, and continued to win primaries until the very end. This is important, because one demographic that gravitated to Obama but not to Clinton was young voters, many of them first time voters who caught "Obama Fever," and showed up in record numbers. Most of his margin of victory in the Iowa Caucus was from the under-25 set. Obama's Iowa Caucus victory propelled him into the stratosphere, making him a household name, and a cult hero of sorts to young, disaffected youth.

During that famous 2004 convention speech, Obama said something that would not be out of place at 2008's convention at Mile High, "This year, in this election we are called to reaffirm our values and our commitments, to hold them against a hard reality and see how we're measuring up to the legacy of our forbearers and the promise of future generations."

Since defeating the once-unstoppable foe, Clinton, Obama kicked his campaign into overdrive. He has campaigned vigorously in all 50 states, and continues to raise $50-$60 million a month in contributions. I think he owes more to the people who helped him secure the nomination than he has been giving.

After Clinton announced her departure from the race, Obama has steadily moved to the right, waffling on important commitments he made during the campaign. He repeatedly promised he would support a filibuster of any bill that would grant retroactive immunity to telecom companies who participated in Bush's unlawful wiretapping program. He later capitulated, issuing this statement on his support of the new legislation, "The ability to monitor and track individuals who want to attack the United States is a vital counter-terrorism tool, and I'm persuaded that it is necessary to keep the American people safe."

The weaselly language he is using flies in the face of his campaign message of change. His campaign had more backtracking to do on his initial campaign promise to end the Iraq War. When his feet were put to the fire, Obama waffled yet again, his promise to withdraw troops from Iraq within 18 months is so laden with provisions and caveats as to barely resemble his promise. He got the support of millions by claiming to be a different kind of politician, and now is turning his back on people who believed in him.

With four months to go until "Decision '08," Obama's reputation as an agent of change is in jeopardy. His lofty campaign promises on climate change, civil liberties, and war that once inspired, are slowly but surely garnering eye rolls of doubt.

I will almost certainly still vote for Obama, but as every passing week showcases a new story where Obama is seen pandering to the right, I'm growing concerned my vote will be another empty lever pull as it was in 2004. I wasn't excited about John Kerry because he didn't bring anything new to the table. Obama represents a new direction for a country in a serious rut, but his repeated failure to live up to it is making me question the audacity of hope.

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 09:28 PM

I think people are too hard on Obama.

That and they have been listening to the wrong sources for news. You cannot trust the mainstream media to report what Obama says because they will screw it up on purpose to turn people against him.

And while everyone is entitled to their opinions, I cannot understand what would motivate someone to vote for McCain. That's all I will say about this.

Jiro · 08-04-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

And while everyone is entitled to their opinions, I cannot understand what would motivate someone to vote for McCain. That's all I will say about this.

same here!

Those are kind of people who only see the headlines and not give a damn about details - "illegal immigrants.. Al-Qaeda... Osama bin Laden"

They only care about blowing them up and super bowl.

BradB08 · 08-04-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

same here!

Those are kind of people who only see the headlines and not give a damn about details - "illegal immigrants.. Al-Qaeda... Osama bin Laden"

They only care about blowing them up and super bowl.

A lot of the anti-Obama stuff focuses around blatant lies about his religion (he is a Christian but there are people who still think he's a Muslim), his name (People tend to focus on Hussein, which is a very common name in the Middle East. People use that to make "terrorist" connection) and his ethnicity (he is bi-racial..black and white..not Arab like some people claim).

It's too bad that there are people who will completely ignore his message because they cannot see past falsehoods.

Meanwhile, John McCain left his disabled first wife for a supermodel, calls his supermodel wife all kinds of nasty names, refused to support MLK holiday in Arizona, embraced fundamentalist Christians like John Hagee and much more.

If you're going to try and expose Obama, it's only fair to expose McCain too.

shel90 · 08-04-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

A lot of the anti-Obama stuff focuses around blatant lies about his religion (he is a Christian but there are people who still think he's a Muslim), his name (People tend to focus on Hussein, which is a very common name in the Middle East. People use that to make "terrorist" connection) and his ethnicity (he is bi-racial..black and white..not Arab like some people claim).

It's too bad that there are people who will completely ignore his message because they cannot see past falsehoods.

Meanwhile, John McCain left his disabled first wife for a supermodel, calls his supermodel wife all kinds of nasty names, refused to support MLK holiday in Arizona, embraced fundamentalist Christians like John Hagee and much more.

If you're going to try and expose Obama, it's only fair to expose McCain too.

Oh my gosh! I will never ever forget that when I was living in AZ. How MLK holiday got approved finally was cuz the NFL bribed the voters into getting a Super Bowl game hosted if we voted for making MLK a holiday. How sick is that? That was during the time when I felt ashamed of being a native ARizonan!

shel90 · 08-04-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

How many folks here are supporters of Barack Obama?

I will be voting for Barack Obama in November. I feel he's the best candidate for the job right now. I do not want 4 more years of George Bush's policies! I want the troops to come home and I want to see more emphasis on alternative energies.

If you are not a supporter, please do not post here! Make your own thread for bashing!

I am with u on that one!!! Obama supporter here.

PuyoPiyo · 08-05-2008, 02:15 AM

Well I am not so sure, but more likely Obama for me

sara1981 · 08-05-2008, 03:10 AM

im totally support Obama and his fab wife

Jiro · 08-05-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sara1981

im totally support Obama and his fab wife

I thought his wife was cool and hip too. Both are modern people and know how to use technology. McCain's wife looks like a high-nose stuck-up and probably thinks the government still should enforce the segregation.

Liebling:-))) · 08-05-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

A lot of the anti-Obama stuff focuses around blatant lies about his religion (he is a Christian but there are people who still think he's a Muslim), his name (People tend to focus on Hussein, which is a very common name in the Middle East. People use that to make "terrorist" connection) and his ethnicity (he is bi-racial..black and white..not Arab like some people claim).

It's too bad that there are people who will completely ignore his message because they cannot see past falsehoods.

Yes, that's right... They should check with snope.com first before say something...

The

rumor about him as a communist. I choose to not buy it. After Hillary lost, I learn to know him better and know that he is not a Muslim but Christian. His father is a Muslim (Black African) and mother is a Christian (white American). They were divorced when Obama was a little boy. His mother raised him as a Christian, not Muslim.

snopes.com: Who Is Barack Obama?

FactCheck.org: Has Obama's birth certificate been disclosed?

snopes.com: Barack Obama and Kenya Connection

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Meanwhile, John McCain left his disabled first wife for a supermodel, calls his supermodel wife all kinds of nasty names, refused to support MLK holiday in Arizona, embraced fundamentalist Christians like John Hagee and much more.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ft-behind.html

Check snope.com - it written is true...

snopes.com: Cindy McCain

Yes we know thru medias that McCain is well-known as a bad temper, twist, maniputation... call his wife nasty names. That's why I don't like him for his manner behavior (disrespectful, arrogant, dishonestly, etc)

See this video what and how he call his wife a trollop and a c**t... It's no rumor - video shows itself...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...l_n_99744.html

Really funny, most Bush's supporters insult Bill Clinton during affair scandal and expect that all presidents' background should be clean at most debate threads in the past. I personally don't care what and how president's background is but mainly important is they doing their duty as president well, that's what I often said in many debate threads.

Now they support McCain when they know about his "unclean" and dishonestly background... What a hypocrite

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If you're going to try and expose Obama, it's only fair to expose McCain too.

Barack Obama's Biography
Barack Obama News - The New York Times

John McCain's Biography
John McCain News - The New York Times

Well, I have no problem and also do not deny that McCain and Obama critized each other over disagree on political issues. I know it's normal but I have the problem with McCain for use the well-known people's name, troops, etc to boost his vote against Obama. He was busy to use the people to boost his vote than focus positive things for country.

Liebling:-))) · 08-05-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

I thought his wife was cool and hip too. Both are modern people and know how to use technology. McCain's wife looks like a high-nose stuck-up and probably thinks the government still should enforce the segregation.

Thats' an exactly why I like about Barrack and Michelle Obama because they are reality...

http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political...dy-mccain.html

Foxrac · 08-05-2008, 09:16 AM

Yup, I had noticed about alot of negative, rumor comment against Obama, I just feel like not want pay attention or additional more heat debate.

Funny thing, Reba and other republican members are tried convince me to vote McCain and influence me into republican world, lol, Reba, just messing with you.

08-04-2008, 05:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
BradB08 You talkin' to me? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,757 Blog Entries: 1	Obama supporters? How many folks here are supporters of Barack Obama? I will be voting for Barack Obama in November. I feel he's the best candidate for the job right now. I do not want 4 more years of George Bush's policies! I want the troops to come home and I want to see more emphasis on alternative energies. If you are not a supporter, please do not post here! Make your own thread for bashing!

08-04-2008, 05:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) My 3 darling princesses Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 27,054	I am an European and live in Germany, can´t vote US election but Obama have my full support. __________________

08-04-2008, 05:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Aleser Woosh. Yes, Woosh. Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 571	Me too. __________________ "She thinks... she can make people do what she wants or needs, what is right, by the sheer force of her own talent, not by forcing them... she can teach them and persuade them... that they'll catch it from her. This is still faith in their rationality, in the omnipotence of reason. The mistake? Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them."

08-05-2008, 02:15 AM	#21 (permalink)
PuyoPiyo My Property!! >:( Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fourth Plain Village WA Posts: 5,182	Well I am not so sure, but more likely Obama for me __________________ Note: Not credit by myself.

08-05-2008, 03:10 AM	#22 (permalink)
sara1981 Batista's fans Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Little Rock,Ar Posts: 3,291	im totally support Obama and his fab wife __________________

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08-04-2008, 05:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
BradB08 You talkin' to me? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,757 Blog Entries: 1	That's cool. I don't have a problem with that. I remember reading in another thread that there's another user here who thinks that supporting Obama is Anti-American. Let me tell you something, supporting John McCain is supporting 4 more years of George W.Bush's policies! And you know how screwed people are after 8 years of Bush. Why would anyone want that AGAIN for ANOTHER 4 years?

08-04-2008, 05:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,197	Obama supporter here.

08-04-2008, 07:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pacific County, Washington Posts: 5,163	Still undecided.

08-04-2008, 07:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,249	Not voting for Obama....

08-04-2008, 07:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,249	I don't like either candidate but I consider McCain the lesser of two evils.

08-04-2008, 09:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
BradB08 You talkin' to me? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,757 Blog Entries: 1	I think people are too hard on Obama. That and they have been listening to the wrong sources for news. You cannot trust the mainstream media to report what Obama says because they will screw it up on purpose to turn people against him. And while everyone is entitled to their opinions, I cannot understand what would motivate someone to vote for McCain. That's all I will say about this.

08-05-2008, 09:16 AM	#26 (permalink)
Foxrac o_O Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 14,350	Yup, I had noticed about alot of negative, rumor comment against Obama, I just feel like not want pay attention or additional more heat debate. Funny thing, Reba and other republican members are tried convince me to vote McCain and influence me into republican world, lol, Reba, just messing with you. __________________ God bless America