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jillio · 08-06-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

and Obama does not mean a better future. I'm weary of him

At this point in time, Mickey Mouse would mean a better future.

**Jiro** · 08-06-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

At this point in time, Mickey Mouse would mean a better future.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-06-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthyTx

Listen folks.... for those who is republican, think carefully!! Look at how the economy has affected on people in the America; especially, with the gas, taxes, foods, and you name it have rising up! Bush started the war and expect that Mc Cain will carry that if he takes the position. We don't need any war and all that rising up in the America. It needs to stop! I figure that you like to see the gas rising? What does that benefit you?? None but it will get worse!

Look back when Clinton was president for eight years and everything was GREAT! I know he has been guilty for an adultery but it is no big deal. He was one of wonderful president including John F. Kennedy and among the democrat presidents. I have seen the republican presidents are greedy and look for any problems with another country. Most Democrat presidents leave the other country alone and mind their own business.

So, you, the republican still considering vote Mc Cain after all??? You need to consider hard and vote Obama once and make the American happy!! MAKE IT CHANGE!!! I can see that Obama is a wonderful man and have heart for any kind of people while Mc Cain has his own preferences!! UGHH!! He is a creepy!

Obama supporter!!

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-06-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

That is not true. Bush allowed it happen not Clinton.

Yes, that´s right. Bush started it, not Iraq.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-06-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

Who got us into Iraq the first time? Bush Sr (R)
Who got us into Afghanistan? Bush Jr (R)
Who got us into Iraq the second time? Bush Jr (R)

Your argument doesn't hold up because you conveniently omitted the last few wars to bolster your case.

Of course, everyone knows it except war supporters.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-06-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

It was just Reba's opinion, she love to bash on Bill Clinton.

Yes she does... because of his adultery. Well this is her opinoin.

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For me, 9/11 has nothing with Bill Clinton, it was big issue from first Bush and second Bush but 1993 WTC bombing was happened when after first Bush left office and gave Clinton on bad side, first Bush started Gulf War in last 18 years ago to prevent Kuwait from invade by Iraq and everything in middle east were screw up.

In overall, it could be something with Bush, Al Qaeda were created when before first Bush got in office.

I miss Bill Clinton, he's great president during my time in 90's.

Of course I´m with you on this. Yes we know that Clinton was a good president and tried his best to take care of his people and country... Bush? Oh no... All what I heard his talk is Saddam.... war.... war... war... Saddam....

It look like that Bush addict on war issues. He urged many countries to go Iraq war to support him... They said NO except British.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-06-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

At this point in time, Mickey Mouse would mean a better future.

**Reba** · 08-06-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes she does... because of his adultery. Well this is her opinoin.

You brought it up this time, not me.

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... He urged many countries to go Iraq war to support him... They said NO except British.

You should get your facts straight.

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Iraq Coalition Troops
Non-US Forces in Iraq - February 2007

The size and capabilities of the Coalition forces involved in operations in Iraq has been a subject of much debate, confusion, and at times exageration. As of August 23, 2006, there were 21 non-U.S. military forces contributing armed forces to the Coalition in Iraq. These 21 countries were: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, South Korea, and the United Kingdom.

However, in the August 23, 2006 Iraq Weekly Status Report (Slide 27) the State Department listed 27 foreign countries as contributing troops to the Coalition in Iraq. The additional four countries were Japan, Portugal, Singapore and the Ukraine.

In addition, that same Weekly Status Report listed 34 countries (including the US) as maintaining personnel in Iraq (as part of the Coalition, UNAMI, or NATO). The State Department reported that Fiji was contributing troops though UNAMI and that Hungary, Iceland, Slovenia, and Turkey were assisting with the NATO training mission. However, it is unclear whether Hungary actually maintained any forces in Iraq as part of NATO or UNAMI since its government announced the complete withdrawal of troops in December 2004.

In testimony before the Senate Armed Services committee on August 3, 2006, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld described the coalition in Iraq as composed of 34 allies (plus the US).

As of June 13, 2006, MNF-I reported that 27 countries (including the US) maintained responsibility over the six major areas of Iraq. Since that time, Japan has withdrawn all of its forces from Iraq.

For the purposes of this tally, only countries that contribute troops as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom are counted....

more at: Iraq Coalition - Non-US Forces in Iraq

jazzy · 08-07-2008, 12:30 AM

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Yes she does... because of his adultery. Well this is her opinoin.

Mc Cain committed adultery too by cheated his first wife for younger beautiful model which he married her one month after his divorce with his first wife. I guess it is allright for supporters to support his adultery but not Clinton.

BradB08 · 08-07-2008, 01:04 AM

I trust Obama more than McCain, jiro123.

That is why I am voting for him.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-07-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

Mc Cain committed adultery too by cheated his first wife for younger beautiful model which he married her one month after his divorce with his first wife. I guess it is allright for supporters to support his adultery but not Clinton.

Yes, I was like *scratch my head* that's what I said in my previous post.

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**Liebling:-)))** · 08-07-2008, 03:12 AM

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You brought it up this time, not me.

Do you mean that I started to bash Clinton? If yes, can you please show me where I bash/say anything against Clinton? Do you want to deny that you made negative posts in different threads over Clinton and his adultery in the past?

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You should get your facts straight.

more at: Iraq Coalition - Non-US Forces in Iraq

for fresh my memory but all what I know is they plan to withdraw/reduce their troops in Iraq but McCain plan to increase US troops in Iraq. He didn't say very much about his plan for Afganistin......

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-07-2008, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

I still fail to see what the point here is. We're living in modern times and the last 3 presidents that started wars have been Republicans, unless you count our involvement in Bosnia and Somalia under Clinton.

me, too.

We only see is oppose Iraq war... that's it.

**Liebling:-)))** · 08-07-2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I didn't "omit" anything. I was bringing to remembrance history that some people can't seem to recall past George Bush.

Sadly, many people are so fixated on Bush that they can't remember anything else that happened in history.

I only remember good thing about Bush is free Iraqis from Saddam.

Byrdie714 · 08-07-2008, 09:54 AM

Reba, you might want to update your Iraqi Coalition troop list because Australia is already out the door as well as several other countries that is on the list.....

It is a shame that many people can't remember past Bush but when one is representing the Republican party--it does leave a bad taste.

I was trying to recall a good Republican president past Bush and all I can recall is Abraham Lincoln....

**Jiro** · 08-07-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BradB08

I trust Obama more than McCain, jiro123.

That is why I am voting for him.

yes perhaps but one troubling thing. Obama is extremely inexperienced and unproven and has no friends in Washington or anybody in powerful positions that are instrumental to cooperation. So far - he talks good but can he deliver?

**Jiro** · 08-07-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Reba, you might want to update your Iraqi Coalition troop list because Australia is already out the door as well as several other countries that is on the list.....

It is a shame that many people can't remember past Bush but when one is representing the Republican party--it does leave a bad taste.

I was trying to recall a good Republican president past Bush and all I can recall is Abraham Lincoln....

what about Eisenhower? FDR? Teddy? Reagan?

PowerON · 08-07-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by EarthyTx

Look back when Clinton was president for eight years and everything was GREAT! I know he has been guilty for an adultery but it is no big deal. He was one of wonderful president including John F. Kennedy and among the democrat presidents. I have seen the republican presidents are greedy and look for any problems with another country. Most Democrat presidents leave the other country alone and mind their own business.

It's not only adultery but Clinton didn't put defense as he turn it down on Kosovo and let them solution themselves. Guess what? Few months ago, they attack US Embassy. FAILED!

Second, he ignore terrorist warn and left up to Bush's admin team. Boom! There is 9/11. FAILED to protect!

Third, Clinton's admin team ignore Enron and allow do the dirty job. FAILED and lead awful economy.

Tousi · 08-07-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

yes perhaps but one troubling thing. Obama is extremely inexperienced and unproven and has no friends in Washington or anybody in powerful positions that are instrumental to cooperation. So far - he talks good but can he deliver?

Yeah, I'm close to calling him an empty suit.

**Jiro** · 08-07-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

It's not only adultery but Clinton didn't put defense as he turn it down on Kosovo and let them solution themselves. Guess what? Few months ago, they attack US Embassy. FAILED!

Second, he ignore terrorist warn and left up to Bush's admin team. Boom! There is 9/11. FAILED to protect!

Third, Clinton's admin team ignore Enron and allow do the dirty job. FAILED and lead awful economy.

oh don't forget the embarrassing gaffe where we (actually the NATO) accidentally bombed Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia

jillio · 08-07-2008, 11:03 AM

"When facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross."

Quote from Sinclair Lewis

Byrdie714 · 08-07-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

Reagan?

A great disservice to all of humanity.

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FDR?

Uh...he was a Democrat.

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what about Eisenhower?

Do you remember Korea? He couldn't bring democracy to that peninsula.

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Teddy?

A good conservationist.

**Jiro** · 08-07-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

A great disservice to all of humanity.

I knew someone would say that.

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Uh...he was a Democrat.

oh..... <awkward silence>

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Do you remember Korea? He couldn't bring democracy to that peninsula.

yea I figured. He was O-K president.... at least he created highways in USA. I'll give him a point for that.

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A good conservationist.

yup I like Teddy.

EarthyTx · 08-07-2008, 11:33 AM

First of all, the Clinton Admin team haven't cause any disaster but he has to wipe Republican Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr's butts. Clinton has to cleaned up everything to make it right. It proved that Bush Sr Admin job was such unorganized because he ran the office only one term. Clinton was able taken care of the health care program, economy and much more. It gets better and which is why the American was pleased to vote him for the second term.

Second of all, Democratic nominee, Al Gore should have won the office; unfortunately, the senator in Fla is Jed Bush whose brother to Bush Jr. You don't know what they doing behind the scene and wink the eyes . We saw with our own eyes on the media that Al Gore has the highest majority vote; Gore should have won but instead Bush got the position. The media doesn't lie but we cannot see behind the scene. It is something that you need to consider that the Bush Admin is capable of doing the dirty job, threaten and you name it. We don't need that in the America.

Third of all, can you imagine that Bush's own daughter, Jenna Bush was interviewed by Larry King on CNN last April that she may not vote Mc Cain being president. She confessed she'd support Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama. She is a Democratic in her heart but in her father's eyes that she is a republican because he is her daddy. I bet you that she will vote Obama this November.

Lastly, yes, Obama might be inexperienced but he is a senator for Illinois. He will be able to use that advantage in the white house if he becomes president. Look at Clinton was also inexperienced but fast learner and was able to change for better society. Therefore, Obama will do the same with a credible resources from Democratic Admin team and which is why he is working with a former president Bill Clinton. I strongly believe that Obama will do good job! I just had a good feeling!!

jillio · 08-07-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EarthyTx

First of all, the Clinton Admin team haven't cause any disaster but he has to wipe Republican Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr's butts. Clinton has to cleaned up everything to make it right. It proved that Bush Sr Admin job was such unorganized because he ran the office only one term. Clinton was able taken care of the health care program, economy and much more. It gets better and which is why the American was pleased to vote him for the second term.

Second of all, Democratic nominee, Al Gore should have won the office; unfortunately, the senator in Fla is Jed Bush whose brother to Bush Jr. You don't know what they doing behind the scene and wink the eyes . We saw with our own eyes on the media that Al Gore has the highest majority vote; Gore should have won but instead Bush got the position. The media doesn't lie but we cannot see behind the scene. It is something that you need to consider that the Bush Admin is capable of doing the dirty job, threaten and you name it. We don't need that in the America.

Third of all, can you imagine that Bush's own daughter, Jenna Bush was interviewed by Larry King on CNN last April that she may not vote Mc Cain being president. She confessed she'd support Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama. She is a Democratic in her heart but in her father's eyes that she is a republican because he is her daddy. I bet you that she will vote Obama this November.

Lastly, yes, Obama might be inexperienced but he is a senator for Illinois. He will be able to use that advantage in the white house if he becomes president. Look at Clinton was also inexperienced but fast learner and was able to change for better society. Therefore, Obama will do the same with a credible resources from Democratic Admin team and which is why he is working with a former president Bill Clinton. I strongly believe that Obama will do good job! I just had a good feeling!!

Exactly. Whoever takes the presidency is going to have 8 years of a huge mess to clean up. The Bush legacy has to be dealt with before any president can begin to institute policy.

**Reba** · 08-07-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Do you mean that I started to bash Clinton?

Of course not. Pay attention. I didn't mention Clinton's White House shenanigans in this thread at all. YOU brought it up, not me.

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for fresh my memory but all what I know is they plan to withdraw/reduce their troops in Iraq but McCain plan to increase US troops in Iraq. He didn't say very much about his plan for Afganistin......

So? Your statement about the USA and England being the only countries involved was wrong. Accept it, and don't try to weasel out by changing the subject.

**Reba** · 08-07-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

I only remember good thing about Bush is free Iraqis from Saddam.

That seems like a very good thing to remember.

**Reba** · 08-07-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Reba, you might want to update your Iraqi Coalition troop list because Australia is already out the door as well as several other countries that is on the list.....

It is a shame that many people can't remember past Bush but when one is representing the Republican party--it does leave a bad taste.

I was trying to recall a good Republican president past Bush and all I can recall is Abraham Lincoln....

If you read the entire linked passage, it mentions that the list was constantly changing. My point was it wasn't ONLY the US England that ever sent troops.

**Jiro** · 08-07-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EarthyTx

First of all, the Clinton Admin team haven't cause any disaster but he has to wipe Republican Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr's butts. Clinton has to cleaned up everything to make it right. It proved that Bush Sr Admin job was such unorganized because he ran the office only one term. Clinton was able taken care of the health care program, economy and much more. It gets better and which is why the American was pleased to vote him for the second term.

Second of all, Democratic nominee, Al Gore should have won the office; unfortunately, the senator in Fla is Jed Bush whose brother to Bush Jr. You don't know what they doing behind the scene and wink the eyes . We saw with our own eyes on the media that Al Gore has the highest majority vote; Gore should have won but instead Bush got the position. The media doesn't lie but we cannot see behind the scene. It is something that you need to consider that the Bush Admin is capable of doing the dirty job, threaten and you name it. We don't need that in the America.

Third of all, can you imagine that Bush's own daughter, Jenna Bush was interviewed by Larry King on CNN last April that she may not vote Mc Cain being president. She confessed she'd support Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama. She is a Democratic in her heart but in her father's eyes that she is a republican because he is her daddy. I bet you that she will vote Obama this November.

Lastly, yes, Obama might be inexperienced but he is a senator for Illinois. He will be able to use that advantage in the white house if he becomes president. Look at Clinton was also inexperienced but fast learner and was able to change for better society. Therefore, Obama will do the same with a credible resources from Democratic Admin team and which is why he is working with a former president Bill Clinton. I strongly believe that Obama will do good job! I just had a good feeling!!

Well - Bill Clinton has extensive experience since late 1970's. He was an Attorney General, Governor twice, and then President. and Obama? He started a political career just 10 years ago as a "member" of Illinois Senate and then only a couple years as Senator. Still too young and too inexperienced to be President. He does not know anybody nor has any connection to Washington boys. How is he going to effectively perform his job as the President? Just because the President has all the executive privilege does not mean he will get the job done. He's going to have hard time getting any of his agenda done. But I'll keep a small hope for him...

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Originally Posted by jillio

Exactly. Whoever takes the presidency is going to have 8 years of a huge mess to clean up. The Bush legacy has to be dealt with before any president can begin to institute policy.

yes.... unfortunately true....

**Reba** · 08-07-2008, 11:49 AM

Unnecessary post; ignore me.

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jazzy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High desert in Calif Posts: 4,208	[QUOTE=Liebling:-)));1056876][QUOTE] Yes she does... because of his adultery. Well this is her opinoin. Mc Cain committed adultery too by cheated his first wife for younger beautiful model which he married her one month after his divorce with his first wife. I guess it is allright for supporters to support his adultery but not Clinton. __________________

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08-07-2008, 01:04 AM	#70 (permalink)
BradB08 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 2,676 Blog Entries: 1	I trust Obama more than McCain, jiro123. That is why I am voting for him.

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Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,941	Reba, you might want to update your Iraqi Coalition troop list because Australia is already out the door as well as several other countries that is on the list..... It is a shame that many people can't remember past Bush but when one is representing the Republican party--it does leave a bad taste. I was trying to recall a good Republican president past Bush and all I can recall is Abraham Lincoln....

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jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	"When facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross." Quote from Sinclair Lewis

08-07-2008, 11:33 AM	#84 (permalink)
EarthyTx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Somewhere in Texas Posts: 24	First of all, the Clinton Admin team haven't cause any disaster but he has to wipe Republican Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr's butts. Clinton has to cleaned up everything to make it right. It proved that Bush Sr Admin job was such unorganized because he ran the office only one term. Clinton was able taken care of the health care program, economy and much more. It gets better and which is why the American was pleased to vote him for the second term. Second of all, Democratic nominee, Al Gore should have won the office; unfortunately, the senator in Fla is Jed Bush whose brother to Bush Jr. You don't know what they doing behind the scene and wink the eyes . We saw with our own eyes on the media that Al Gore has the highest majority vote; Gore should have won but instead Bush got the position. The media doesn't lie but we cannot see behind the scene. It is something that you need to consider that the Bush Admin is capable of doing the dirty job, threaten and you name it. We don't need that in the America. Third of all, can you imagine that Bush's own daughter, Jenna Bush was interviewed by Larry King on CNN last April that she may not vote Mc Cain being president. She confessed she'd support Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama. She is a Democratic in her heart but in her father's eyes that she is a republican because he is her daddy. I bet you that she will vote Obama this November. Lastly, yes, Obama might be inexperienced but he is a senator for Illinois. He will be able to use that advantage in the white house if he becomes president. Look at Clinton was also inexperienced but fast learner and was able to change for better society. Therefore, Obama will do the same with a credible resources from Democratic Admin team and which is why he is working with a former president Bill Clinton. I strongly believe that Obama will do good job! I just had a good feeling!!

08-07-2008, 11:49 AM	#90 (permalink)
Reba Granny Terp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 39,130	Unnecessary post; ignore me.