Byrdie714

Actually I mentioned Cuba and used it as an example.

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Byrdie714

Remember that democracy doesn't necessairly mean we will be able to stop terrorism.

Afterall, being a democratic society--we still have terrorists living among us.

Foreign Affairs - Can Democracy Stop Terrorism? - F. Gregory Gause III

Wokamuka

Democracy is something that those who emphatically support terrorism do not like. Their greater dislike is capitalism, a practice I think has run amok in the United States, turning it into a Corporate Republic. That's just my opinion, though.

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jillio

http://www.terrorready.net/index.asp

I suggest you watch this. It is very enlightening! (Go to the Terrorists video)

Jiro

lol!! great link, jillio

Jiro

Jillio - that reminds me of this pix I saw long while back....

jillio

Good one!

Grummer

9/11 was an inside job, and many people thinks so

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jillio

The ones that think, anyway.

shel90

9/11 was an inside job from who? Our govt or from the terrorists?

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Jiro

our government

shel90

That's kinda far fetched isnt it? There was a whole thread about the conspiracy theory behind 9/11. It got rather heated.

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Jiro

yes indeed but plausible. Let me switch to a paranoid freak Lone Gunmen. During Clinton Administration - wartime is all-time low and Clinton deeply slashed defense budget. Private defense sectors and military were stagnant and bleeding money.

with Bush Administration and his assurance, 9/11 was pioneered by some twisted fucks sanctioned by our government (only a very few knows) aka Mr. Cigarette Man (from X-File) to reinvigorate our war machine businesses. As the result - defense budget skyrocketed to billions, several new security contractors popped up (especially Blackwater), and defense contractors are back in business (halibourton, Skunk Works, etc.).... and lastly...... several politicians' former companies or their stocks in certain companies are cashing in.

Our country's largely dependent on 2 things - consumers and wars. sad, huh?

switching back to regular Joe... FUCK BIN LADEN! We must avenge our brethrens! <voting for Bush.... McCain>

jillio

Every action produces a reaction. The theory is that actions taken by the government produced the reaction that we know as 911.

Reba

Not the least bit plausible.

Who's being paranoid here? Not me. It's the conspiracy supporters.

Liebling:-)))

Unfortunlately McCain obsess Iraq war when he knows that Bin Laden is somewhere in Agfanistian, not Iraq. He neglect his plan for Agfanistian. That´s why Obama support Agfanistian.

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Jiro

It does not matter. You can't leave Iraq in its state of turmoil. It's not Iraq War anymore. It's Iraq Civil War. We just happened to be in its crossfire. It's not the issue of neglect but a matter of priority.

jillio

It is not plausible that actions taken, or not taken, by the current adminsitration are responsible for the reaction leading to 911?

Reba

The so-called "inside job" by the US government is not plausible.

jillio

Okay, gotcha!

Liebling:-)))

Not Iraq War anymore? You must be joking because soliders and innocnets are being killed almost every day in Iraq...

No wonder why soliders/civillians trust War opponent Rep. Ron Paul and Sen. Barack Obama than Rep. Sen. McCain.

Military Donors Back Ron Paul & Obama, and NOT McCain
by Mountaineer | February 4, 2008 at 06:39 pm

Military Donors Back Ron Paul & Obama, and NOT McCain | The News is NowPublic.com

Rep. Ron Paul suppose to support McCain because he join the same party as McCain but it look like that he support Obama..., not McCain.

May 2, 2008
Paul: Not ready to endorse McCain, likes Obama's foreign policy

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Paul: Not ready to endorse McCain, likes Obama’s foreign policy « - Blogs from CNN.com


It shows itself that military trust Ron Paul and Obama more... because they know that McCain want to keep Iraq for 100 years.


Ron Paul & Obama have been against the war in Iraq from the start. It shows that they cares more about people than big business and oil. He cares about the troops and is concerned about their welfare. That's why I think the troops realize this.

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jillio

A civil war is the reason that the U.S. had no business being there in the first place.

Jiro

and sometimes civil war is good. it means they're transforming to better future but with heavy cost. We've had Civil War. Germany's had civil war. list goes on. most of it is for good.

jillio

But it is still a civil war. Which means the issues involve warring factions within the borders of a given territory. It does not extend to the U.S.

Jiro

right but if we pull out - its civil war will be even more out of control and it could turn out to be worse. then we'll be shit-balled with another headline - "USA TURNED HIS BACK ON IRAQ" or something.

jillio

And that, my friend, is a situation that the American leadership created by getting involved in a civil war to start with. Comes from not learning anything from history.

Tousi

Was it really a civil war and for a civil war there the day we stepped in? Or did it evolve into one?

Jiro

there was no civil war because Saddam kept it under control..... in a brutal, barbaric way. After Saddam was removed... the war evolved into civil war as each sect's fighting for control of Iraq

jillio

I believe at the time the U.S. stepped in, it was termed a "conflict".